[討論] Worst WHIP for pitcher with at least .750 W-L%

看板CMWang (王建民 - 大樹哥)作者 (aisinjuro)時間18年前 (2007/11/02 15:07), 編輯推噓8(804)
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/396 November 1, 2007 Worst WHIP for pitcher with at least .750 W-L% Filed under: Season Finders — Andy @ 8:06 am It’s 25 years later, and the AL Cy Young voting for 1982 still bothers me. Rob Neyer once told me that he considers that vote to be the worst Cy Young vote ever, i.e. Pete Vukovich to be the least deserving winner. Just how bad was that season? Well here are all pitching seasons since 1901 with at least 200 innings pitched and a winning percentage of .750 or better, ranked by highest WHIP: Cnt Player **WHIP** W-L% IP Year Age Tm Lg G GS CG SHO GF W L SV H R ER BB SO ERA ERA+ HR BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS Pk BK WP BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ Pit Str +—-+—————–+———+—–+—–+—-+—+—+–+—+–+–+—+–+–+–+–+ —+—+—+—+—+——+—-+–+—-+—-+–+–+—+—+—+—+—+—+–+–+–+–+— –+—–+—–+—–+—-+—-+—-+ 1 Pete Vuckovich 1.502 .750 223.2 1982 29 MIL AL 30 30 9 1 0 18 6 0 234 96 83 102 105 3.34 114 14 971 851 38 7 1 5 9 4 23 32 16 3 0 6 .275 .354 .385 .739 108 2 Juan Guzman 1.452 .824 221 1993 26 TOR AL 33 33 2 1 0 14 3 0 211 107 98 110 194 3.99 109 17 963 836 35 1 2 3 5 9 10 25 17 2 1 26 .252 .338 .358 .696 87 3 Jack Kramer 1.449 .783 205 1948 30 BOS AL 29 29 14 2 0 18 5 0 233 104 99 64 72 4.35 101 12 891 0 0 3 0 4 Whitey Ford 1.435 .750 207 1953 24 NYY AL 32 30 11 3 2 18 6 0 187 77 69 110 110 3.00 124 13 882 4 0 3 0 5 George Earnshaw 1.406 .750 254.2 1929 29 PHA AL 44 33 13 3 5 24 8 1 233 110 93 125 149 3.29 129 8 1115 5 0 8 0 6 Lefty Gomez 1.398 .774 265.1 1932 23 NYY AL 37 31 21 1 3 24 7 1 266 140 124 105 176 4.21 97 23 1149 2 0 0 0 7 Ellis Kinder 1.389 .793 252 1949 34 BOS AL 43 30 19 6 10 23 6 4 251 103 94 99 138 3.36 130 21 1085 2 0 1 0 8 Tom Glavine 1.362 .786 239.1 1993 27 ATL NL 36 36 4 2 0 22 6 0 236 91 85 90 120 3.20 127 16 1014 910 50 4 7 2 10 2 25 9 5 1 0 4 .259 .327 .376 .703 92 9 Larry Christenson 1.359 .760 219.1 1977 23 PHI NL 34 34 5 1 0 19 6 0 229 113 99 69 118 4.06 99 21 945 856 52 7 1 7 5 8 18 14 8 1 6 7 .268 .324 .418 .742 100 10 Charley Root 1.357 .760 272 1929 30 CHC NL 43 31 19 4 9 19 6 5 286 120 105 83 124 3.47 133 12 1158 3 0 1 0 11 Alvin Crowder 1.348 .808 244 1928 29 SLB AL 41 31 19 1 6 21 5 2 238 113 100 91 99 3.69 114 11 1069 1 0 1 0 12 Mel Parnell 1.327 .781 295.1 1949 27 BOS AL 39 33 27 4 5 25 7 2 258 102 91 134 122 2.77 157 8 1240 5 0 9 0 13 Red Ruffing 1.326 .750 247.1 1938 33 NYY AL 31 31 22 3 0 21 7 0 246 104 91 82 127 3.31 137 16 1043 0 1 1 0 14 Bruce Hurst 1.325 .750 216.2 1988 30 BOS AL 33 32 7 1 0 18 6 0 222 98 88 65 166 3.66 113 21 922 842 40 1 1 2 8 5 15 14 4 4 3 5 .264 .316 .388 .704 92 15 Lefty Grove 1.318 .750 275.1 1933 33 PHA AL 45 28 21 2 16 24 8 6 280 113 98 83 114 3.20 134 12 1173 4 0 1 0 16 Russ Ortiz 1.314 .750 212.1 2003 29 ATL NL 34 34 1 1 0 21 7 0 177 101 90 102 149 3.81 112 17 912 793 41 3 7 4 6 7 9 22 5 2 0 5 .223 .312 .347 .659 76 3569 2104 17 Richard Dotson 1.313 .759 240 1983 24 CHW AL 35 35 8 1 0 22 7 0 209 92 86 106 137 3.23 130 19 997 872 34 3 1 8 4 7 33 29 5 2 0 7 .240 .325 .351 .676 83 18 Red Munger 1.311 .762 224.1 1947 28 STL NL 40 31 13 6 6 16 5 3 218 94 84 76 123 3.37 123 12 936 2 0 4 0 19 Brad Penny 1.308 .800 208 2007 29 LAD NL 33 33 0 0 0 16 4 0 199 75 70 73 135 3.03 151 9 865 765 47 1 2 5 13 9 29 14 5 0 0 6 .260 .325 .359 .684 78 3232 2084 20 Chien-Ming Wang 1.307 .760 218 2006 26 NYY AL 34 33 2 1 1 19 6 1 233 92 88 52 76 3.63 124 12 900 841 44 1 4 2 3 2 33 9 11 1 1 6 .277 .320 .375 .695 79 3055 1920 Yeah, so Vukovich’s 1982 ranks as the worst of all time (well, since 1901) in this regard. We see a lot of old seasons on here, but for the most part I think we also see over-rated pitchers on this list. Juan Guzman (#2) is a prime example of a guy who was fairly lucky in having such a winning season, and parlayed it into a big contract, and never had anywhere close to the same success. Russ Ortiz in 2003 (#16) is another example. He had a good career up to that point, but played way over his head that year, then fell off a cliff. (Later he became the highest-paid player ever to be released outright.) Mind you, we see other names here like Whitey Ford, Left Gomez, and Red Ruffing who are not over-rated. #20 is interesting, huh? When Wang won 19 in his first full season last year, the rest of his stats didn’t seem to back it up very well. His low strikeout rate, even for a ground-ball pitcher, was alarming. I predicted a much poorer 2007, but in fact he had a very similar season. I’m not sure his numbers bode well for a long & productive career, though. That trade we’ve heard about of packaging Wang with a few others for Santana might not be such a bad deal for the Yankees. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 210.202.45.65

11/02 15:23, , 1F
要賣就快點賣! 大家一起走!
11/02 15:23, 1F

11/02 15:28, , 2F
嗯 要賣就賣...改支持雙城....
11/02 15:28, 2F

11/02 15:34, , 3F
雙城帽子跟中華隊很像 呼 以後帶中華隊帽子就好
11/02 15:34, 3F

11/02 15:38, , 4F
交易也不錯阿 反正有實力的選手到哪都能生存
11/02 15:38, 4F

11/02 15:44, , 5F
說不定以後洋基還要花錢買回去
11/02 15:44, 5F

11/02 17:01, , 6F
有本事把小王抓出來罵 結果只會用一些推測的語氣 好濫.
11/02 17:01, 6F

11/02 17:36, , 7F
第八名..小王要跟好榜樣學習..不用理這種濫批評
11/02 17:36, 7F

11/02 17:40, , 8F
話說小王現在當然沒有山大王猛..可是有必要急著賣掉嗎
11/02 17:40, 8F

11/02 17:40, , 9F
賣了小王..換山大王..休絲跟橋巴一定頂的住二號嗎
11/02 17:40, 9F

11/02 18:05, , 10F
老葛~唉~有些專家思維與視界真有夠僵化的
11/02 18:05, 10F

11/02 18:30, , 11F
我還蠻期待交易出去的~
11/02 18:30, 11F

11/02 20:15, , 12F
哈哈 荒謬
11/02 20:15, 12F
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