[討論] 王現在是在降速求控球

看板CMWang (王建民 - 大樹哥)作者 (希望你在這裡)時間12年前 (2013/04/30 00:03), 編輯推噓13(14122)
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根據這篇報導所示: Wang has said that he is pitching with reduced velocity, making his command more important. Through 12 innings of Triple-A work, he has walked two and struck out five; there is no timetable for promoting him. 看來小王的球速85-89 miles的原因, 是因為90 miles以上控不進好球帶, 去年看他丟90miles以上球便亂跑的情況, 可能沒有改善多少, 現在只好降 速來求控球, 這種狀況看來離大聯盟還有一段距離... http://0rz.tw/bZHkQ Girardi taking wait-and-see approach with Wang By Bryan Hoch / MLB.com | 04/26/2013 7:09 PM ET NEW YORK -- The photocopied sheets of the Yankees' Minor League report land on manager Joe Girardi's desk each day, but for the moment he isn't digging too closely into the details of Chien-Ming Wang's pitching lines for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Wang made his second start at the Triple-A level on Thursday, allowing three runs (one earned) on four hits over 6 2/3 innings in a 4-1 loss to Columbus. Through two starts he has compiled a 0.75 ERA. "I'll probably start taking it seriously when I hear reports that are glowing reports, that he's throwing the ball really well," Girardi said. "I don't think you can make too much of two starts. "I think you have to see how a guy responds start after start after start, going every fifth day. We've all seen him pitch at a very high level. If he can get back to close to that, he becomes a viable option for us." Wang, 33, signed with the Yanks this spring after a successful turn in the World Baseball Classic with Chinese Taipei. A 19-game winner in both 2006 and 2007 with the Yankees, Wang was just 6-6 with a 4.94 ERA in 21 games (16 starts) over the last two big league seasons with the Nationals. Wang has said that he is pitching with reduced velocity, making his command more important. Through 12 innings of Triple-A work, he has walked two and struck out five; there is no timetable for promoting him. "None of us really talked about, 'We're going to look at him after five starts,'" Girardi said. "We figure it's a guy that can give us depth. It's a guy that has had a lot of success here. ... They signed him for depth and an opportunity to pitch here if we need him." Girardi also noted the success of left-hander Vidal Nuno, who has followed a strong spring by going 2-0 with a 1.54 ERA in four starts for the RailRiders, but said, "I'm not looking to make a change. Our organization is not looking to make a change. We want to get guys going." -- In the memory of Roger Keith "Syd" Barrett January 6, 1946 - July 7, 2006 http://0rz.tw/X5eJe I know where Syd Barrett lives -- Television Personalities -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.253.214.170

04/30 01:01, , 1F
唉呀呀,那只能期望他奇蹟似的長出控球,像當年伸卡一樣
04/30 01:01, 1F

04/30 01:04, , 2F
"奇蹟似"?可否說清楚些為何這樣講,這樣用詞還蠻容易
04/30 01:04, 2F

04/30 01:04, , 3F
使人不快的
04/30 01:04, 3F

04/30 01:12, , 4F
王本來以前就控球不錯,我想這不需要質疑。現在需要的
04/30 01:12, 4F

04/30 01:13, , 5F
是找回球速+尋求身體動作的最佳協調性
04/30 01:13, 5F

04/30 01:19, , 6F
"我的看法"並不認為王是一個控球佳的選手'就算連續19勝時
04/30 01:19, 6F

04/30 01:21, , 7F
他似乎是使勁往某些定點丟、然後對方打差
04/30 01:21, 7F

04/30 01:24, , 8F
就算說要等些契機、甚或是奇蹟到達古德瑞說的境界...
04/30 01:24, 8F

04/30 01:25, , 9F
那也不為過。   以上為自己的看法、無關任何理論或數據。
04/30 01:25, 9F

04/30 01:26, , 10F
那我想問題就是怎樣算做"長出控球"了
04/30 01:26, 10F

04/30 01:27, , 11F
如果標準是長到像maddux那種程度,我承認確實像奇蹟xd
04/30 01:27, 11F

04/30 01:28, , 12F
這篇裡談的,只是要丟進好球帶的程度,就沒那麼誇張吧
04/30 01:28, 12F

04/30 01:30, , 13F
雖然看了一下原文只有說到command,我想也沒到原po說
04/30 01:30, 13F

04/30 01:30, , 14F
的那麼誇張就是
04/30 01:30, 14F

04/30 02:01, , 15F
當年伸卡長出來不奇蹟嗎?突然就練出一顆大檸檬頂級的伸卡,
04/30 02:01, 15F

04/30 02:02, , 16F
這樣還不奇蹟嗎?發生過一次奇蹟,期待有第二次,挺合理的啊!
04/30 02:02, 16F

04/30 02:06, , 17F
應該是找回不是長出來吧,長出來是從來沒有變有
04/30 02:06, 17F

04/30 03:35, , 18F
奇蹟?你以為王是睡一覺起來就突然學會伸卡嗎?
04/30 03:35, 18F

04/30 08:13, , 19F
純噓K某
04/30 08:13, 19F

04/30 08:23, , 20F
原文用command 其實是要讓進壘點更好的意思啦
04/30 08:23, 20F

04/30 09:10, , 21F
可以用最近的經典賽跟這幾場的3A去看,經典賽雖然失分少但
04/30 09:10, 21F

04/30 09:11, , 22F
其實還是會被打幾隻安打出去,守備幫不少忙.
04/30 09:11, 22F

04/30 10:02, , 23F
樓上,王一直都是這樣的投手啊
04/30 10:02, 23F

04/30 11:45, , 24F
我指的是明顯的安打,並非以前那種很明顯的內野滾地
04/30 11:45, 24F

04/30 16:02, , 25F
那是我們二游的守備本來就很抖,大聯盟的守備沒這麼慘吧
04/30 16:02, 25F

04/30 18:46, , 26F
wbc對日本,某一局要不是林智勝精采守備擋下一分,王早就掉
04/30 18:46, 26F

04/30 18:50, , 27F

04/30 19:24, , 28F
樓上 比賽沒掉分就是沒掉分 不管對手打得再好都一樣
04/30 19:24, 28F

04/30 19:25, , 29F
一個PALY完了 就是完了 王要擔心的是目前的投法可以宰制
04/30 19:25, 29F

04/30 19:26, , 30F
3A 但是能不能宰制MLB呢 我想他自己才會知道
04/30 19:26, 30F

04/30 19:27, , 31F
此外 開個玩笑話 林智勝都守得到了 大聯盟球員會守不到?
04/30 19:27, 31F

04/30 22:35, , 32F
wbc是人工草皮
04/30 22:35, 32F

04/30 22:48, , 33F
守備好的就不會看起來每個都是nice play了
04/30 22:48, 33F

04/30 22:54, , 34F
小史原本不被教練看好 然後就奇蹟長出100mph火球!
04/30 22:54, 34F

04/30 22:57, , 35F
然後就可以無視小史那段努力的過程了 奇蹟真好用
04/30 22:57, 35F

04/30 23:39, , 36F
尾勁比較重要
04/30 23:39, 36F

05/01 00:18, , 37F
= = 夏天到了 想洗澡就乾脆的進去吧~~
05/01 00:18, 37F
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