Re: [討論] Get the ball to Ray Allen !!!

看板Celtics (波士頓塞爾提克)作者TT123 (The Truth)時間17年前 (2008/11/08 00:16)推噓6(6推 0噓 25→)

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放心吧 Ray的重要性在今年會更加明顯，沒別的原因...就是少了Posey 當T-Mac一直硬打Ray時，如果是去年就會有Posey上來頂...現在Ray只能靠自已特別是TA看來除了比較健康有自信外，並沒有什麼多大的進步拿了球就一定要往前運二下、沒有外線、跑位又差，基本上如果C's在進攻上打戰術的話，感覺上TA是完全沒用處...他只需要大家讓開清出禁區給他單打今年TA還是一個防守組，但是礙於身高要跟Posey比還是差多了 (T-Mac看都不看就在他頭上投籃...)反之，等Doc覺得時機成熟時理論上Bill Walker跟九把刀會有機會上場 (就如同前幾年的新秀一樣..都是球季開打一段時間後才有機會亮相) 另一重點是，Ray到C's時就有說過希望在PG上分一點時間，而今年到目前為止，我認為Doc最好早點讓Ray打一些PG，因為目前PG上只有Rondo罩得住...House、TA、Pruitt 都還不行至於會覺得三分球變差，很大的原因就是TA的上場時間增加只要他跟Rondo一起出現，外線就完全沒火力>< 這個問題是無解的!! 除非讓Pruitt跟Rondo一起上...也是一個方法 ※ 引述《SexyCassell (其實我很帥)》之銘言： : Get the ball to Ray Allen and let him run the offense (with the bench) : 原文連結：http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=23327.0 : ※這是在celticsblog上看到的一系列討論串，主要在講RAY在C's的定位和打法問題 : 　有興趣的人可以自行前去觀看整個討論串，國外很多球迷的觀點相當有意思。 : 　以下節錄部分片段，歡迎大家一起討論！^^ : ※去年奪冠後，RAY本人曾經說過：「We did our best to somewhat downplay it, : because Big Three, it was a Big 15. We have 15 guys on this team that : have contributed all year.」 : 　希望所有塞爾提克的球迷都秉著這樣的精神~~^^ : ----------------------------------------------- : Ray needs to be singled out on offense just like Paul is whenever he is alone : out there with the second group. He's a good enough facilitator to involve the : other guys when he doesn't have it but I want one of the greatest shooters in : NBA history shooting when with the second unit not Baby taking 18 footers and : Tony taking wild, off balance drives to the basket. : ----------------------------------------------- : Like just about everyone not named Pierce, Ray's shot was off last night. He : wasn't making his early open looks and was swatted the one time I recall him : taking it to the rim. It looks like we were playing him the same way we did : early last season, using him as a spot up shooter. : I think Ray needs the ball in his hands a little more, and not just running : around the perimeter. He needs to try and get into the middle or get those : midrange jumpers going before he starts launching the deep balls. : ------------------------------------------------- : ◎ : 關於這個問題，上個球季冠軍賽第五場的時候已經非常熱烈討論過一次了......囧 : 事實就是RAY和PP在球隊的部分功用就是重疊到，然而這個問題是不是非得要解決不可？ : 尤其是我們已經拿下隊史的第17座冠軍，針對這個問題不能有別種想法嗎？ : 請看下面幾段討論原文── : ----------------------------------------------- : I didn't like the lack of involvement/shots Ray had while playing with that : unit. It's a great opportunity to get Ray going offensively each night, they : should make more of it. : ----------------------------------------------- : I think more and more Ray is going to become a spot up shooter on the team, : there will be lots of screen and rolls for him, but as far as him with the ball : at the top of the key creating his shot, probably not (unless Sashsa Vujacic is : standing in front of him, and then 10 feet behind him). TA is a slasher, and as : unorthodox and ugly as it is at times, he can create his own shot better than : Ray. I do think Ray definitely should see more of the ball when he is the only : member of the big three out there, but it was just one game, and the Cavs play : Ray Ray well, so maybe Doc was trying to throw something out of the ordinary at : them. Hey, it worked. : --------------------------------------------- : ◎　 : 小結 : （１）希望RAY能打得更有侵略性~ : 　　（２）RAY(也許)正轉型為定點射手，但是他會獲得更多掩護~ : （３）如果河流放棄一些既有的東西，球隊或許會運轉的更好~ : 所謂的放棄一些東西，真的是非常玩味的一句話~~~ : 於是──下面這幾段就是重點了！ : --------------------------------------------- : Ray is a shooter/scorer and I would like to see him play less minutes and get : more shots up per minute. I really wouldn't mind Ray playing 25 minutes per : game and taking more shots per minute. He really isn't above average in any : other facet of the game. Does he really have to play 41 minutes just to space : the floor? : -------------------------------------------- : It is not just about getting shots for Ray. It is about trying to run the : offense at it's most effectiveness. And putting the ball in Ray's hands when : Pierce, KG and Rondo are on the bench would make the Celtics offense the most : effective it can be. : Ray can do more then just catch and shoot. : ---------------------------------------------- : ◎ : 小結： : （４）RAY需要的是持球時間，不是上場時間。 : 　　（５）寧願RAY在較短的上場時候裡有更多的出手。 : （６）與其說是更多的出手，其實是更有效率的得分。 : ----------------------------------------------- : Well yes Ray has to play 41 mins to space the floor because he and Pierce are : the only guys on the team that need to be guarded at the 3 pt line. The only : way around this is to give some mins to Pruitt. : That is the flaw in the whole Eddie as a pg and the Eddie, Tony, Ray line up. : Eddie is not a good 3pt shooter pulling up off the dribble and he doesn't do a : great job of finding others open looks or handling the ball in traffic. Tony : can get his own shot but gets in trouble when he starts trying to create shots : and find the open man and is an iffy spot up shooter even if left wide open. : Ray is in a simliar situation as Tony creating but much like Eddie he is way : better off the ball catching and shooting. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.134.181.146

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