Fw: [外電] Jet versus Ray

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※ [本文轉錄自 MiamiHeat 看板 #1G1v4j4V ] 作者: blur13 (認識你自己) 看板: MiamiHeat 標題: [外電] Jet versus Ray 時間: Thu Jul 19 12:46:33 2012 原文 http://ppt.cc/o9mO Jet versus Ray 節錄重點 前面一些關於Ray轉隊 C's交易Jet的就不提了 First off, many people may not be aware that Jason Terry has a higher Player Efficiency Rating than Ray Allen. With a PER of 15.8, Jet ranks as the 12th best shooting guard in the NBA; Ray Allen is 25th with a 14.8. Also, Ray is 2 years older than Jason; Ray will be 37 next year, Jet will be 35. JET 的效率較高 他在當前聯盟的SG中排名12 PER 15.8 RAY 排名25 PER 14.8 兩個都是老人 雷槍37歲 Jet 35歲 One more thing to consider: Jason Terry is a 6th man - he thrives in that role. With the emergence of Avery Bradley last season, the Celtics can rest assured that Terry will be comfortable in that 6th-man role; this may not have been the case with Ray. Jet 是專職第六人角色 由於C's有了AB Jet可繼續當他的第六人 這與Ray原先在C's的角色並不同 Anyway, on to the analytics. Let's start with where they shoot. I mentioned earlier that these guys have similar offensive styles; when we look at theirshooting clusters this idea is confirmed. Both guys love to shoot from beyondthe arc, especially in the corners and along the wings. Both players exhibit fairly symmetric 3-point shooting tendencies, with one big difference: Terry shoots more than Ray these days. Jason Terry averaged about 14 field goal attempts per game, Ray averaged a career-low 11 in 2011-2012. Ray’s favorite shot is the left corner 3, where he is incredible. Jet prefers the wings; over half of his 3-point attempts come from the wing. However, he was the 9th best corner-3 shooter in the NBA last season. Ray was number 1. 兩者有著相似的進攻風格 參閱下圖 Jet出手圖 http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jet_Ray0.jpg
Ray出手圖 http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jet_Ray0.jpg
兩人皆喜歡投三分 特別是在底線 與兩翼45度周圍 場上出手位置相當對稱 但有一個顯著差異 Jet 的出手次數比Ray多 平均每場出手14次 Ray則是11次 Ray偏愛的地方是左邊底線三分 此處命中率十分驚人 參考前文 他是該位置第一人 Jet則是偏好兩翼位置 有一半的出手集中於此 然而 Jet是本季排名第九的底線三分手 Ray is No.1 Another big difference in these two charts is in the midrange: Jet is much more active in the midrange than Ray. 40% of Jason Terry’s field goal attempts occur in the midrange; that number for Ray is much closer to 30%. The midrange is very important to the Celtics offense (Bass, Garnett, et.al. 2012). 另一個顯著差異是 Jet 在中距離的出手遠多於Ray 選擇中距離出手的比例為40% Ray則是接近3成而已 可能跟 C's是跳投大隊 有關 (Bass, Garnett 等等 2012球季) But what about efficiency? Considering that Ray Allen is perhaps the most efficient jump shooter in NBA history, it’s a credit to Jet that this is even a conversation. Ray is obviously a beast from that left corner, and along the right wing; Jason Terry’s hot spots are almost a mirr0r-image of Ray’s: he prefers the right corner and the left wing. 在效率性的比較上 Ray或許是NBA史上最有效率的跳投射手; Jet效率或許不如Ray 但也算不錯 非常明顯的 Ray是一隻在左邊底線與右邊45度的三分獸 Jet則是剛好與Ray 相反 右邊底線與左邊45度 Ray命中圖 http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jet_Ray1.jpg
Jet命中圖 http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jet_Ray1.jpg
I've highlighted the major differences here. Basically in the green areas, I see Terry as the better scorer; in the black areas, I give the edge to Ray. The basic ideas are that Ray is a slightly better 3-point shooter than Jet, but Jet is a much better midrange scorer at this stage than Ray. 作者 特別圈出 主要的差異處 在綠色區域 Jet 是較佳的得分手 黑色範圍則是Ray的地盤 Ray的三分優於Jet Jet的中距離優於Ray 比較圖 Jet http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jetRay3.jpg
Ray http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/jetRay3.jpg
When we conduct a zone-by-zone comparison we see these guys excel at different places. Each guy is #1 in the league from 1 particular spot: Ray is #1 from the left corner where he shoots 57%, Jet is #1 from the right longish baseline area, where he shoots 60%. Beyond that, both of these guys have fairly similar shooting numbers around the court; of course I give a slight edge to Ray Allen, who is my favorite shooter ever, but again, I’m not sure if people realize that Jason Terry is also an elite shooter. 在繪製區域比較圖時 發現 Ray與Jet 各在一個位置 命中率皆為聯盟第一 Ray 在左邊底線三分 57% Jet在 右邊底線(right longish baseline area) 則為第一 有60% Ray是作者最愛的射手 但他不確定人們是否也意識到 Jet同樣的也是優秀的射手 Next year will be fun to watch how these guys play in their new cities, and in their new systems. Miami proved that it can get open looks from the corners during the playoffs (Battier shot 50 corner 3′s during the playoffs; he made 30% of them); Ray will knock those down over half the time. Similarly, with Rondo running the show, Boston has proven it can get guys great looks at their hot spots in the midrange; I expect to see Jet shooting a lot of open jumpers from that right-side baseline area. 來年的比賽 將會相當有趣 觀看這些球員轉會 到了新的城市 新的球隊系統 熱火在季後賽展現了 他們能夠製造大量底線三分空檔 (八爺在季後賽底線三分球有50次出手 命中率三成) 依照雷槍的命中率 半場就可以擊倒對手了 同樣的 當軟豆hold住全場時 可以製造空檔 給波士頓的球員在各自擅長的位置(中距離) 輕鬆出手 可以預期Jet 在右邊底線將會有大量空檔出手機會 Jet vs Ray 整體比較大圖 http://courtvisionanalytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/JetRay2.jpg
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07/19 12:58, , 1F
<--無視好文)最大不同是JET常被譙跟司機搶球來投
07/19 12:58, 1F

07/19 12:58, , 2F
雷沒有這個問題XD
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07/19 14:22, , 3F
DT
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07/19 14:56, , 4F
07/19 14:56, 4F
※ 編輯: blur13 來自: 112.104.25.146 (07/19 15:29)

07/19 15:30, , 5F
因為有提到Jet 就順便轉過來了QQ
07/19 15:30, 5F

07/19 15:45, , 6F
各有各的偏好跟習慣區域囉~
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07/19 15:54, , 7F
出手習慣這種事情交給RONDO就會全部搞定了~
07/19 15:54, 7F

07/19 16:04, , 8F
好文推~ 推好文~
07/19 16:04, 8F

07/19 16:07, , 9F
蠻想知道誰的防守比較好說~
07/19 16:07, 9F

07/19 16:40, , 10F
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07/19 16:42, , 11F
Ray真的效率超高....去熱火 半場就可以打趴對手
07/19 16:42, 11F

07/19 16:43, , 12F
推~理性好文!防守應該是Ray較好 Jet身材太吃虧了
07/19 16:43, 12F

07/19 17:23, , 13F
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07/19 18:05, , 14F
防守面沒腳傷前Ray真的大勝!!傷了以後我覺得Jet小贏
07/19 18:05, 14F

07/19 19:15, , 15F
看好今年TERRY FG能大躍進~
07/19 19:15, 15F

07/19 20:03, , 16F
不過看起來等AB回來,Jet更適合回替補
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07/19 20:17, , 17F
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07/19 21:04, , 18F
如果Terry出手數變少和接到比較多空檔應該會提升
07/19 21:04, 18F

07/19 21:05, , 19F
不過我希望他打第六人 出手數多一點好 不過....
07/19 21:05, 19F

07/19 21:05, , 20F
這樣應該還是維持他高出手數和差不多的命中
07/19 21:05, 20F

07/19 21:32, , 21F
可是我們好像不太需要中距離的出手了...
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07/19 21:55, , 22F
TERRY 4號!!
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07/19 22:17, , 23F
我希望terry多一點持球突破 突破之後選擇中距上籃傳
07/19 22:17, 23F

07/19 22:18, , 24F
球都沒關係 反正就是要有人突破才能攪亂對方防守
07/19 22:18, 24F

07/19 22:18, , 25F
去年太多一直傳一直傳 然後時間到了 就找一個人出手
07/19 22:18, 25F

07/19 22:19, , 26F
比賽打得好看 往往出現在軟豆主動持球突破
07/19 22:19, 26F

07/19 22:55, , 27F
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07/19 23:15, , 28F
Terry到C's出手次數感覺會變少
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07/19 23:53, , 29F
有軟豆在~~~FG%希望能發威~~
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07/20 03:23, , 30F
Terry不是一個需要別人助攻的球員
07/20 03:23, 30F

07/20 07:17, , 31F
Terry還會助攻給別人咧!他還是現役球員助攻數top10喔
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07/20 09:04, , 32F
要組助攻隊了麻xdd
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