[情報] 托雷斯:我跟博阿斯之間沒有問題

看板Chelsea作者 (托托護衛隊隊長)時間14年前 (2011/12/21 18:17), 編輯推噓47(47070)
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2011/12/19 肥南多‧托雷斯接受CANAL+電視台訪問 影片:http://ppt.cc/LC5W 英文出處:http://ppt.cc/OZuR 主播: About that exit from Liverpool which wasn't expected and what is going through at the moment in Chelsea. 你可以談談關於你那時候離開利物浦之後的事情跟當時身處在切爾西的感受嗎? : There was a moment in which I saw that apart from a lot of unmet promises, a lot of things changed, the owners changed and they presented us a very long term project and I understood that I didn’t have time and I needed to move. And I had the chance to go to Chelsea. 那時候,很多事情都跟我當初得到的承諾不太一樣。利物浦換了老闆,重新凝定了 一個長期的計劃,但是我知道我沒有時間在這裡等下去,所以我必須離開,這時候, 我得到了一個可以加盟切爾西的機會。 Everything that happened between those days.. the message that is given to the Liverpool fans, all of that is what I didn’t like. What I don't think was fair, right? An exit like that was very unfair, because they don't know the truth, or my truth. They don't know what happened, they don't know the people that are there now. They don't know how they are, they think they’re different from what they are. 那幾天發生太多事情,我想傳達給利物浦球迷的訊息全都出了錯。我認為這並不公平。 因為他們並不了解全部的事實,也不了解關於我的部分,也不知道究竟發生什麼事, 他們也不了解某些人怎麼做,就這樣解釋我的離去,他們所想的與事實是完全不同的。 And at the end, the fans only get 1/10th of what really goes on. And I understand their reaction and the way they acted with me at Stamford Bridge the last three times we've played. I don't hold anything against them, I can't say anything bad about them. They made me feel the best and my memories with them are indelible. 到最後,球迷們只得知百分之十的真相。所以我能理解他們當初做客來到斯坦福橋 球場時的激烈反應。但是,就算是如此,我也不會針對他們什麼,我沒有辦法去說他 們的壞話。因為他們給了我永生難忘的美好回憶。 主播: Fernando you have said in another occasion that the first months at your stay at Chelsea were very difficult. Why? 肥南多,你曾經說過在切爾西的第一個月很辛苦,可以告訴我們原因嗎? : Well, they were very difficult because I felt a lot of sadness for how my exit had came out, how my exit had been sold. I felt, I couldn't understand that the Liverpool fans felt that hate for me after a month before I was everything for them. I didn't feel it was just, I wanted to explain it to them, but it wasn't the moment. We understood that things had to stay like that and I had to look forward and look at the present and the future. 一開始會很困難的大部分原因,主要是因為我的轉會造成了很多誤解,我覺得很難過。 我唯一難以了解的是,利物浦球迷在短短一個月內就把我從隊內的核心人物,轉化視 我為仇人。我真的很想把一切都解釋清楚,但是卻是天不時地不利人不合。所以我認 為我必須拋開這些,去面對現在跟未來的挑戰。 It's hard when you haven't lived it before, but well whenever I've played I've tried to look at the teammates that were benched and say.. well if these people are sitting out then I have to value being in the team. Whoever has to be benched, has to try to be humble and respect those who are playing and support the team. And when its your turn just try and do it good. Someday I can hopefully have that place. 但是,如果沒有經歷過這些,光依靠這個信念活著是很辛苦的,所以,每當我上場 比賽,我都會看看在替補席的隊友,我會告訴自己,我沒有像隊友一樣坐在替補席, 那我就一定要在場上成為值得首發的球員。不管是誰需要坐在替補席,都必須坦然 接受,支持並尊重首發的隊友們。當你有機會首發時,就要盡一切努力去做到最好。 我希望我也可以有這樣的表現。 主播: And how is Villas-Boas as a manager? What relationship are you having with him and how have you handled this subject which is very hard specially with a EuroCup 6 months away for you? 你覺得博阿斯是個怎麼樣的教練呢?你和他的關係如何?特別的是,還有六個月 就踢歐錦賽,你覺得處理(一直替補)這個情況會很困難嗎? : No, our relationship is merely professional. He is a manager who isn't known for speaking individually with anyone. He trains the team every day and never shows his cards until practically the day before the team. 一點也不會,我們之間就僅僅是教練與球員的關係。他不是那種會一一找球員來 談話的教練。他雖然每天與我們訓練,但他總是在最後一天才會亮出底牌。 And looking at Chelsea there has been a lot of rotation during the first half of the season and now it seems like he has settled with a team, a different way of playing more behind, more defense as opposed to going too upfront from the beginning which cost us a lot of defeats.. He has also found I think the balance of the team, to be able to win the matches. 在上半賽季我們切爾西進行了很多的輪換,並採用一個與以往完全不同的打法, 打對方身後,防守前壓,但造成許多比賽的失利。但是現在看起來他已經確立 了一個體系去改善,我想他已經找到可以贏下比賽的平衡點了。 And I haven't had to tell him anything and neither has he Not when I played, not when I didn't play, when I play less, when I play more. If I had anything to tell him I would tell him. 就算我有上場、沒上場,上場次數多、次數少,我跟他都沒有談過,他也沒找我談。 如果,我有什麼話想跟他說,我會說的。 累斃了。 -- -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.250.100.172

12/21 18:22, , 1F
他總是在最後一天才會亮出底牌
12/21 18:22, 1F

12/21 20:12, , 2F
雖然是職業比賽.但我還是覺得溝通很重要
12/21 20:12, 2F

12/21 20:28, , 3F
(其實我是不敢跟他談>"<)XD
12/21 20:28, 3F

12/21 20:58, , 4F
但是我知道我一定不是那張底牌QQ
12/21 20:58, 4F

12/21 21:27, , 5F
AVB的底牌是替補上場的3人...
12/21 21:27, 5F

12/21 22:14, , 6F
我從來沒有誤會你...
12/21 22:14, 6F

12/21 22:40, , 7F
搞不好拖拖是怕AVB親口對他說 "你不在我的計畫中" ....
12/21 22:40, 7F

12/21 23:37, , 8F
拖拖這種說沒事的話已經聽好多遍了= ="
12/21 23:37, 8F

12/22 00:03, , 9F
撐下去... 一月會是表現的機會
12/22 00:03, 9F

12/22 01:36, , 10F
對刺刺沒意外還是獸巴吧!
12/22 01:36, 10F

12/22 03:34, , 11F
通常會說這種話的時候 表示心結已經產生了
12/22 03:34, 11F

12/22 09:37, , 12F
其實托托這季表現有非常的差嗎?為啥會被冰的這麼嚴重!
12/22 09:37, 12F

12/22 16:09, , 13F
獸巴也不年輕啦...場場都上不用錢的...超累的
12/22 16:09, 13F

12/22 16:12, , 14F
操到他沒力踢非洲杯
12/22 16:12, 14F

12/22 17:32, , 15F
今晚應該還是獸巴...雖然上一場便秘
12/22 17:32, 15F

12/22 17:39, , 16F
明天凌晨大家一起來看比賽加油!!!!!!!!!!
12/22 17:39, 16F

12/22 20:01, , 17F
不瞭解事實真相,就詛咒托雷斯成為下一個舍瓦的利記球迷
12/22 20:01, 17F

12/22 20:04, , 18F
真是讓我見識到YNWA精神的真諦啊!!!
12/22 20:04, 18F

12/22 20:07, , 19F
假若不是今年梅雷轉會所爆出來的風波,以托托的個性
12/22 20:07, 19F

12/22 20:08, , 20F
可能到死大家都不會瞭解真相,而他也就遺臭萬年
12/22 20:08, 20F

12/22 20:10, , 21F
就像明末名將袁崇煥那樣。
12/22 20:10, 21F

12/22 20:11, , 22F
所以真相是? 我等著啊 等了一年了啊...
12/22 20:11, 22F
※ 編輯: yumilamps 來自: 111.250.110.138 (12/22 20:15)

12/22 20:16, , 23F
阿狐,你確定只有"利物浦球迷"詛咒嗎?XD
12/22 20:16, 23F

12/22 20:17, , 24F
這裡不是利記黑特版 我想沒必要藉此婊利記
12/22 20:17, 24F

12/22 20:21, , 25F
托雷斯的部分我不知道,不過似乎是球隊對他的承諾跟他
12/22 20:21, 25F

12/22 20:22, , 26F
預想的差距太大,他已經27歲了,沒有時間再等長期重建
12/22 20:22, 26F

12/22 20:23, , 27F
這是切爾西版,原來在這講話還要顧慮別隊球迷感受喔?
12/22 20:23, 27F

12/22 20:24, , 28F
我沒婊利記,話是他們自己說說出來的,我們被約翰森
12/22 20:24, 28F

12/22 20:25, , 29F
恩返也沒看到有車迷去詛咒他啊。
12/22 20:25, 29F

12/22 20:25, , 30F
我只是覺得不適合 婊這個字眼有點重 抱歉
12/22 20:25, 30F

12/22 20:27, , 31F
舉個最好的例子,那就是法布,他最近又拿到世俱盃的冠軍
12/22 20:27, 31F

12/22 20:28, , 32F
他假若現在還在槍手的話,他拿得到嗎?
12/22 20:28, 32F

12/22 20:29, , 33F
冠軍很重要 但不是足球的全部
12/22 20:29, 33F

12/22 20:30, , 34F
這是根本的思維不同 於是對同一事件理解角度也不同
12/22 20:30, 34F

12/22 20:30, , 35F
抱歉在這裡多嘴 只是忍不住想說些什麼
12/22 20:30, 35F

12/22 20:34, , 36F
恩,樓上的想法我能理解,只是假若一個球隊有積極的雄心
12/22 20:34, 36F

12/22 20:36, , 37F
有明確的目標和有計畫的發展,我不相信那球隊的核心球員
12/22 20:36, 37F

12/22 20:36, , 38F
插播個小小題外話 翻成肥南多是現在的流行嗎XDD
12/22 20:36, 38F
還有 39 則推文
12/23 07:38, , 78F
網路上托托的推特和FB都不是他本人設立的,還有就是他
12/23 07:38, 78F

12/23 07:40, , 79F
很尊重你們球團,他是不想造成你們球迷與球隊間的矛盾
12/23 07:40, 79F

12/23 07:42, , 80F
只是造成對他自己影響超出了他本人的預期,那是為何他
12/23 07:42, 80F

12/23 07:42, , 81F
現在才說的原因...。
12/23 07:42, 81F

12/23 12:41, , 82F
果然鳥隊的球迷最愛海巡,車版怎麼這麼多鳥迷? lol
12/23 12:41, 82F

12/23 14:00, , 83F
f9torres是鳥迷也是托雷斯迷 所以提到利物浦他就會很敏感
12/23 14:00, 83F

12/23 14:17, , 84F
觀點的部分我想是不會有交集了 再講只會迴圈
12/23 14:17, 84F

12/23 14:17, , 85F
至於我前面說的網站是他的官網,不是社群網站
12/23 14:17, 85F

12/23 14:27, , 86F
在車版講話要顧忌鳥隊嗎lol
12/23 14:27, 86F

12/23 16:34, , 87F
其實我是LAC球迷(毆飛
12/23 16:34, 87F

12/23 16:34, , 88F
英超的豪門球隊除了某隊之外我都還滿喜歡的啊
12/23 16:34, 88F

12/23 16:36, , 89F
我說了 只是個人意見 覺得不妥而已 不用太在意我那句話:)
12/23 16:36, 89F

12/23 18:41, , 90F
穿插個小八卦 西甲新油王馬拉加開3000萬要托托 顆顆
12/23 18:41, 90F

12/23 18:50, , 91F
不過似乎又是亂傳的 原本貼的粉絲專頁都刪掉了XD
12/23 18:50, 91F

12/24 00:33, , 92F
派大沒關係啦,之前槍迷也常來我們這裡要求respect...
12/24 00:33, 92F

12/24 00:34, , 93F
我已經習慣了,而且他們的確也有權力去瞭解事情的真相
12/24 00:34, 93F

12/24 00:35, , 94F
因為Torres的離開,對他們造成非常巨大的影響,假若
12/24 00:35, 94F

12/24 00:38, , 95F
托托現在還留在Liverpool,再找來Mata助陣,他們的前場
12/24 00:38, 95F

12/24 00:39, , 96F
會非常的恐怖,蘇亞雷斯+拖雷斯+馬塔,恩...還好這不是
12/24 00:39, 96F

12/24 00:39, , 97F
真的
12/24 00:39, 97F

12/24 00:42, , 98F
http://tinyurl.com/7r3lg3r 上面連結的原文版
12/24 00:42, 98F

12/24 00:44, , 99F
http://tinyurl.com/6kuo2eb 這是梅雷轉會的風波
12/24 00:44, 99F

12/24 00:48, , 100F
#1ERkq46m JC大已經有翻譯好的文章,可以參考一下
12/24 00:48, 100F

12/24 00:50, , 101F
這說明了為什麼梅雷轉會會在最後半小時遞出轉會申請單
12/24 00:50, 101F

12/24 00:55, , 102F
轉會把所有責任都推給球員,球團也就不需要向球迷交代
12/24 00:55, 102F

12/24 00:56, , 103F
什麼了,而梅雷說話的技巧要比托雷斯好上100倍XDD
12/24 00:56, 103F

12/24 02:08, , 104F
梅雷只是很誠實 果然人跟髮型一樣灑脫
12/24 02:08, 104F

12/24 02:10, , 105F
脫脫像那種吃啥虧就吞進肚子的(講得好像我認識他一樣)
12/24 02:10, 105F

12/24 02:17, , 106F
有人有留過梅雷那種髮型嗎? 平常有什麼要注意的?
12/24 02:17, 106F

12/24 11:54, , 107F
不用啥注意阿 但是你剃光的部份可能要常修 我現在就是類似他
12/24 11:54, 107F

12/24 11:55, , 108F
的髮型,本身頭髮長蠻快 所以大概15~20天就要去修剪了
12/24 11:55, 108F

12/24 11:56, , 109F
我比較接近Neymar那種樣式的.:D
12/24 11:56, 109F

12/24 11:58, , 110F
梅雷的頭髮比較短有點卷 後面是有往上推 所以要看你自己.XD
12/24 11:58, 110F

12/24 19:37, , 111F
http://tinyurl.com/c66hv8o 中文的完整版 只是重點還是
12/24 19:37, 111F

12/24 19:41, , 112F
沒講清楚,不像梅雷講得那麼簡明扼要,球隊想要他走
12/24 19:41, 112F

12/24 19:42, , 113F
卻要梅雷自己遞交轉會申請書。
12/24 19:42, 113F

08/08 01:19, , 114F
現在才說的原因...。 https://noxiv.com
08/08 01:19, 114F

09/10 19:27, , 115F
真是讓我見識到YNWA https://daxiv.com
09/10 19:27, 115F

12/08 14:05, 7年前 , 116F
我還是去睡覺好了 免 https://noxiv.com
12/08 14:05, 116F

04/17 14:45, 7年前 , 117F
好的中場核心並不好找 http://yaxiv.com
04/17 14:45, 117F
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