[情報] 德維澤談哈扎德德布洛因盧卡庫庫爾圖瓦

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http://voice.hupu.com/soccer/2024614.html 球探：莫帥的厚望壓垮了哈扎德來源：FourFourTwo 2016-04-23 22:09:45 切爾西球探德維澤認為莫里尼奧想讓哈扎德成為升級版的C羅和梅西，但是壓力壓垮了哈扎德。 “埃登有著輝煌的時刻。莫里尼奧想把他變成升級版的C羅或者梅西，但這是不可能的。哈扎德永遠不會變成那樣。埃登就是埃登，有著出色的個人能力，但不可能成為機器，他也想休息。你永遠不應該讓他扛著球隊，別讓他當隊長，只用告訴他在旁邊享受自己。 “莫里尼奧是一個贏家，他想從哈扎德那裡獲得更多。他已經很偉大了，所以為什麼不就此放手呢。莫里尼奧想讓他在每場比賽中扛著球隊，在每場比賽中進球，一直起著關鍵作用。 “對埃登來說壓力變得太大了，這對他的比賽有損害，這也是莫里尼奧失敗的時候。在莫里尼奧手下哈扎德從天堂到地獄，招致了壓力和傷病。我希望新教練能以不同的方式對待他。” (編輯：姚凡) http://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/news/mourinho-wanted-make-hazard-better -version-messi-chelsea-scout#:GvwZSO2V5oPj2Q Mourinho wanted to make Hazard a better version of Messi - Chelsea scout 23 April 2016 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://voice.hupu.com/soccer/2024569.html 藍軍球探：曾勸莫帥弄清德布洛因實力來源：每日郵報 2016-04-23 18:34:00 切爾西球探德維澤（Piet de Visser）坦言，當莫里尼奧允許德布洛因轉會離開球隊時，自己曾感到十分惱怒。這名比利時中場球員只為藍軍踢了9場比賽，但是卻在來到沃爾夫斯堡之後大放異彩，之後在去年夏天以5500萬英鎊的身價來到了曼城，並無可爭議的成為藍月亮本賽季表現最好的球員。德布洛因的成功也讓外界質疑莫里尼奧當初的決定，但是德維澤卻表示當時葡萄牙人告訴他的原因是因為德布洛因不願意在他麾下踢球。 “當德布洛因離開切爾西時，我生了莫里尼奧的氣。” 德維澤在接受HLN體育採訪時表示，“我們曾有過幾次討論，那時他說：『我覺得這也很可惜，但是這個男孩自己想離開，他不想在我麾下繼續訓練了。』我告訴他：『是的，這個男孩想上場踢球，他已經準備好了。』我試著說服莫里尼奧好幾次，想讓他瞭解德布洛因的真正實力，但是他總是說：『他不想訓練。』” “我曾去觀看過訓練課，”德維澤補充說，“德布洛因是場上發揮最好的球員。其實莫里尼奧更關注那些已經在自己職業生涯取得過成就的球員，他喜歡和那些已經定型的球員合作。他認為德布洛因還需1或2年的時間，但其實那小夥已經準備好了，而德布洛因自己也知道已經做好上場的準備。” (編輯：姚凡) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3555050/ Jose Mourinho claimed Kevin De Bruyne was poor in training but he was the best on the pitch… he only wants to work with fully developed stars, claims Chelsea scout By Rory Brigstock-barron - Published: 09:58 GMT, 23 April 2016 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2016/4/24/11498020/chelsea-scout -piet-de-visser-enjoying-his-de-bruyne-lukaku-hazard Chelsea scout Piet de Visser enjoying his De Bruyne, Lukaku, Hazard, Mourinho 'I told you so' moment in the sun By David Pasztor - Apr 24, 2016, 9:55p Chelsea scout Piet de Visser has never been accused of not having a strong opinion. The man close to the ear of Abramovich for over a decade now, and involved to varying degrees in the acquisitions of the likes of Robben, Kalou, Alex, Mikel, Lukaku, Courtois, De Bruyne, and even Arnesen and Hiddink, has now cast his eyes over the smoldering rubble of Chelsea's season and has seen an opportunity to promote his own brand. He's never been shy about doing that, which is why his name and his accomplishments (rather than his failures like Alcides) are so well known. While that doesn't necessarily make the things he's saying wrong, the timing is certainly curious, if not poisonous. We can't just ignore them unfortunately, but I do wonder how this will affect his relationship with Chelsea. Will we be more inclined to trust his opinions and recommendations? Will we be more reluctant to work with him, not wanting more dirty laundry to be aired after something goes wrong? I suppose only time will tell. In any case, "Master Scout" De Visser has many strong opinions, and considering his previous clashes with Mourinho (Alex vs. Boulahrouz, for example, or the whole Frank Arnesen appointment), most of them making the media rounds are unsurprisingly about Jose's silly decisions. Some are from his new book, "Master Scout! The Great Discoveries of Piet de Visser" (LOL), some are from associated promotional interviews he's given to various Belgian media outlets, including Het Nieuwsblad. Most of that is behind a paywall (and not in English), but fortunately Kristof Terreur has posted a few key passages on Twitter. A commendable aim, no? Not according to Piet! "Eden is a player who has moments of brilliance. Mourinho tried to turn him into an improved version of Messi or Ronaldo, but that is impossible. Hazard will never be like that. Eden is Eden, a player with brilliant individual actions, but someone who will never become a machine. He also wants to relax. You should never make him the player to carry the team. Don't make him the captain. Just tell him to enjoy himself out there." "Mourinho is a winner and wanted to get even more out of Eden. He was already great, though, so why not just leave it at that? Mourinho wanted him to carry the team in every game, to score every match and to be decisive all the time. The pressure became too much for Eden and that hurt his game. That's when Mourinho lost it. Hazard went from heaven to hell under Mourinho. That led to stress and injuries. I hope the new coach will treat him differently." - Piet de Visser; source: HLN via Goal It's important to keep in mind with these quotes that they are NOT from Eden Hazard, they are NOT from Jose Mourinho, but rather from a scout, who, by all indications, is mostly in this for the personal glory. Of course, same could be said of managers and even players, so just keep the biases in mind before throwing anybody under the proverbial bus. Eden may have voiced frustrations along similar lines once, but then we brought in Fàbregas and Costa to create multiple facets in our attack and it was all good. By all other indications, the relationship between manager and star player was one of mutual respect, reasonable expectations, and a productive professionalism. Plus, if Hazard truly is such a fragile little summer child, then perhaps we should indeed flog him off to some willing buyer. "I was angry with Mourinho when De Bruyne left Chelsea. We had some discussions. Then he would say: 'Piet, I find it a shame too, but the boy wants to leave. He doesn't want to train under me anymore.' I told him: 'Yes, the boy wants to play. He's ready for it.' I have tried to convince him of Kevin's qualities. But then Mourinho repeated: 'Piet, he doesn't want to train.' Until I went to see a training session: Kevin was the best player on the pitch. Look, Mourinho is a performance focused manager, who has achieved a lot in his career. He wants to work with fully developed players. He thought Kevin needed one, maybe two years. But Kevin was ready. And Kevin was convinced he was ready too." - Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland So that's nothing really new. Mourinho wasn't sold on KDB despite others' differing opinions (including Piet's that KDB was going to end up being worth "tenfold" his purchase price). Meanwhile, the kid wanted to play, so there was only one possible way forward. Jose tried to prevent the sale itself, but De Bruyne was not interested in another loan, so we couldn't just stockpile him for the next season or two and wait for him to reach his current level. We move on. "I fought to keep Lukaku at Chelsea, but Mourinho thought he wasn't ready. The manager takes the decisions — I'm only a scout. In my book I've called Lukaku a holding striker. Some people don't agree with me, but I'm looking at a bigger picture. He can control a ball, shield it, but he doesn't have that pure dribbling technique. He's no Wayne Rooney. Lukaku is in my eyes a class better than Benteke. Romelu is ready for a next step in the summer. I would like to see him with better players around him. Does he have to return to Chelsea? I would down a bottle of wine if De Bruyne and Lukaku ever sign for Chelsea again." - Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland Basically the same story and a similarly untenable situation with Lukaku as with his good pal De Bruyne. We tried to move on here, too, but recent rumors have thrown us back into this quagmire. Given Everton's atrocious season, Lukaku's proclamation of a possible move to "a club like Chelsea" (or even Chelsea?) next year doesn't seem like the strangest thing ever now. The last of our Belgian quartet is goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois. Here, for a change, De Visser has not found any fault with Mourinho. "I went to watch Lukaku in a youth game, but during stoppage time, I decided to walk to another pitch. There, I saw a goalkeeper making an amazing save — so stylish. He was agile, he got fast to the ground and was strong in the air. I was already thinking: 'That's going to be my goalkeeper'. When he made his debut for Genk, I immediately sounded the alarm bells at Chelsea. Everybody was immediately convinced of his qualities. Everybody! Neuer is currently the best goalkeeper in the world, but Thibaut can become better than him. Neuer is just more experienced. Thibaut is very very stress-resistant. Like Edwin van der Sar. Courtois is a better version of Van der Sar." - Piet de Visser; source: HLN via @HLNinEngeland Having hitched our wagon long-term to the kid, hopefully De Visser's eye for talent doesn't fail us in Courtois's case. No one will bat a thousand when it comes to identifying talent, not De Visser, not Mourinho, not Emenalo, not even you while playing Football Manager. De Visser may have some strong, controversial opinions, but he has proven repeatedly that he also has a strong eye for talent. So perhaps he should just stick to that and keep his opinions out of our business once he's done his job as a scout. -- PTT Chelsea 名言錄推 heavygauge:wryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.147.194 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Chelsea/M.1461587956.A.9BB.html

[情報] 德維澤談哈扎德 德布洛因 盧卡庫 庫爾圖瓦

[情報] 德維澤談哈扎德德布洛因盧卡庫庫爾圖瓦