[情報] Horner:法拉拉做了明顯的TO

看板FORMULA1 (F1 賽車)作者 (分生)時間15年前 (2010/07/25 23:09), 編輯推噓14(14024)
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85534 Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner described Ferrari's exchange of positions in the German Grand Prix as 'the clearest team order' he had seen, after his driver Sebastian Vettel finished third behind Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa at Hockenheim. Red Bull的老闆Horner說法拉拉在德國站的TO是他看過最明顯的TO,他的愛將Vettel在 阿龍索及Massa之後拿下第三。 Massa led the majority of the German Grand Prix, before lifting off and allowing Alonso to pass him with 17 laps to go. Shortly beforehand, he had received a radio message from his engineer Rob Smedley informing him that Alonso was 'faster'. Smedley later added "good lad" and "sorry" after Massa had fallen to second. Massa領先了大半德國站,直到還剩17圈時讓阿龍索超掉他。在這之前,他收到他技師的無 線電訊息,”阿龍索比較快,他要來了 ".在Massa讓出位置後,Smedley在無線電裡頭說 "good lad" 和 "sorry "。 Horner said there was no doubt in his mind that it was a team order, comparing it to Rubens Barrichello allowing Ferrari team-mate Michael Schumacher to pass him to win the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix - the incident that prompted the ban on such tactics. Horner說在他心裡,無庸置疑這是個TO,跟02年的奧地利,老巴把位置讓給大舒一樣 明顯。 "I have to say, that was probably the clearest team order I've ever seen, especially when you've got the team apologising to a driver," Horner told the BBC. "我必須說,這可能是我看過最明顯的TO,尤其當你看到車隊對車手道歉時, " Horner告訴BBC。 "It will be interesting to see what the stewards make of it, because it was as clear as 2002, which was why the regulation was brought in." 了解隊管理階層為什麼人讓這發生會是很有趣的一件事,因為這跟02年一樣明顯. " He added: "The regulations are pretty clear that team orders aren't allowed and it looked like a team order." 他補述:規則相當清楚,不能有TO,而這次看起來像是個TO " Horner was adamant that Red Bull would not have acted in the same manner. "No, we let our drivers race," he said. "Massa's still in this championship, or maybe he's signed a contract that says he's a number two driver, but I think that it's wrong for the sport. "The drivers should've been allowed to race. Massa did the better job. He was in the lead." Horner說他們不會用同樣的方法。 不,我們會讓我們的車手比賽(戰)。 Massa還在這場冠軍賽裡頭,又或許他已簽了一份他是二號車手的合約,但我認為, 這對F1是個錯誤。 車手應該被允許比賽(戰鬥)。Massa做得比較好。他位居領先阿。 我能說紅牛解套了嗎? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.228.165.32

07/25 23:11, , 1F
言下之意是他做的比較漂亮?
07/25 23:11, 1F

07/25 23:14, , 2F
我該說法拉拉領隊腦X嗎?? 要做也不要做這麼明顯...
07/25 23:14, 2F

07/25 23:14, , 3F
這就叫最明顯的TO? 那他顯然沒看過1998年開幕站...
07/25 23:14, 3F

07/25 23:14, , 4F
到時被調查取消積分不就笨到可以...
07/25 23:14, 4F

07/25 23:17, , 5F
It will be interesting to see what the stewards make
07/25 23:17, 5F

07/25 23:17, , 6F
of it = 到時候要看裁判怎麼處置這件事了
07/25 23:17, 6F

07/25 23:19, , 7F
可預期其他主要競爭車隊會繼續火上加油XD
07/25 23:19, 7F

07/25 23:20, , 8F
這次如果被罰 我看法拉拉頭的位置就不保摟...
07/25 23:20, 8F

07/25 23:27, , 9F
表面河蟹 私底下暗潮洶湧好像也沒多高明阿 紅軍現況就
07/25 23:27, 9F

07/25 23:28, , 10F
98年開幕戰的表面說法可是兩位麥隊車手的內部君子協定
07/25 23:28, 10F

07/25 23:29, , 11F
本來Mika一直在前面,但Mika因為一次莫名其妙的"進站"
07/25 23:29, 11F

07/25 23:29, , 12F
所以損失了位置,阿DC就很君子的把位置還給他這樣
07/25 23:29, 12F

07/25 23:30, , 13F
然後兩人一起套第三名一圈
07/25 23:30, 13F

07/25 23:30, , 14F
積分最重要 其他不管了 悶太久再搞砸 就放眼明年了
07/25 23:30, 14F

07/25 23:30, , 15F
麥拉崙什麼時候可以再給車迷看到一次這種"悠哉"的比賽啊
07/25 23:30, 15F

07/25 23:30, , 16F
(崩潰)
07/25 23:30, 16F

07/25 23:31, , 17F
瞧今天兩台紅軍多『悠哉』啊~
07/25 23:31, 17F

07/25 23:32, , 18F
愈悠哉的team愈會翻臉,所以麥隊兩隻還沒翻臉
07/25 23:32, 18F

07/25 23:32, , 19F
不過紅馬跟紅牛處理大小奶的問題,我還是比較認同法拉利
07/25 23:32, 19F

07/25 23:33, , 20F
07年McLaren怎麼輸Kimi的,不久前才有實證的
07/25 23:33, 20F

07/25 23:33, , 21F
不分大小奶就是輸到什麼都沒有
07/25 23:33, 21F

07/25 23:33, , 22F
紅牛還是先搞定自己的內鬥在還說吧~
07/25 23:33, 22F

07/25 23:34, , 23F
             來
07/25 23:34, 23F

07/25 23:37, , 24F
龜笑鱉沒尾...
07/25 23:37, 24F

07/25 23:38, , 25F
總比某隻車隊直接河蟹Webber的車子好
07/25 23:38, 25F

07/25 23:40, , 26F
我看紅牛很想把車隊冠軍送給麥拉崙,反正麥隊也很久沒拿了
07/25 23:40, 26F

07/25 23:40, , 27F
阿牛跟阿馬就是捧Vettel跟Alonso
07/25 23:40, 27F

07/25 23:44, , 28F
翻譯一下:兩台車沒碰撞就是TO...
07/25 23:44, 28F

07/25 23:58, , 29F
翻譯一下:TO給Alonso贏就是對,給Webber輸就是錯。
07/25 23:58, 29F

07/26 00:05, , 30F
大家都知道法拉利的河蟹又大又好吃
07/26 00:05, 30F

07/26 00:06, , 31F
F隊:指示只是指示.鄉民:二奶命.非F隊:指示就是TO.鄉民:髒
07/26 00:06, 31F

07/26 00:09, , 32F
TO就是TO 二奶就是很衰小 誰還跟你分明顯不明顯
07/26 00:09, 32F

07/26 00:22, , 33F
Horner:我們不會用同樣的方法,只會給不同的前鼻翼!(挺
07/26 00:22, 33F

07/26 00:31, , 34F
恭喜老實人阿龍所先生贏得本站冠軍 XD
07/26 00:31, 34F

07/26 08:50, , 35F
roxi大~Vet的起跑算是讓麥隊"悠哉度"稍微得以延續XD
07/26 08:50, 35F

07/26 08:52, , 36F
麥隊低吹上不來的話...紅牛/法拉拉把分數越平均越好不是嗎
07/26 08:52, 36F

07/26 10:35, , 37F
對啦...就是TO,反正不會影響RB的積分,不要吵了... XD
07/26 10:35, 37F

07/26 15:30, , 38F
Horner:"早知道我們也給TO就不會撞車了..." 法:"煙~"
07/26 15:30, 38F
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