[外絮] 打破沉默!!老鷹交易來 Jeremy Lin

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https://reurl.cc/8l9RX https://www.peachtreehoops.com/ Breaking down the Hawks’ acquisition of Jeremy Lin ...第一段沒翻跳過 The details of the move, which technically occurs separate from the Nets’ other trade with Denver: Atlanta picks up Jeremy Lin, the right to swap 2023 second-round picks with Brooklyn, and the Net’s unprotected 2025 second-round pick, in exchange for Isaia Cordinier, who was selected 44th overall in 2016, and a top-55 protected second-rounder from the Trail Blazers. Lin’s contract stipulates that he’ll make $13.8 million in 2018-19 after the trade also triggered a 10 percent trade bonus in his contract, which is paid by the Nets but will count against the Hawks’ cap sheet. Cordinier played with Atlanta’s entry in Summer League each of the last two seasons, but missed the second half of his season overseas with double knee surgery to alleviate tendinitis. It was unlikely he was ever going to be an NBA player and certainly having simultaneous surgery on his knees won’t improve his stock in that area. 關於交易細節先不提之後籃網和金塊的交易：老鷹交易來林書豪，及2023年二輪籤互換權，和籃網未受保護的2025年二輪籤，而籃網拿到 Isaia Cordinier ，2016年第44順位，及來自拓荒者隊的前55名保護二輪籤。而林書豪的合約有關細條規定，當被原球隊交易時會同時觸發10% trade bonus 所以加上10% trade bonus後lin的2018-19年薪就變1380萬元，其中10% trade bonus 由籃網支付，但將會算到老鷹的薪資空間上。 Cordinier在過去兩個賽季中都有參加夏季聯賽，而上季為減輕肌腱炎而動了雙膝手術，因此錯過上個在海外賽季的下半季。他不太可能成為一名NBA球員，並且可以確定的是雙膝手術將不會改善他的肌腱炎傷勢。 In the purest of vacuums, it’s hard to argue with the value of getting a mid-tier starting point guard and at least one second-rounder with a bit more than half of the team’s remaining cap space. Lin is immediately the best point guard on the roster, provided he’s able to return from his own knee surgery to be the player he was previously, and should take over the starting spot on opening night. There’s been no indication that the Hawks plan to move on from Lin in the near-term and while Dennis Schröder is more highly-paid and the incumbent starter, Lin provides more value at the position as a shooter and playmaker, both attributes general manager Travis Schlenk has mentioned as top priorities in Atlanta’s rebuild. In the purest of vacuums，對於擁有一名中等級先發控球後衛和一名至少二輪選手很難去爭論他們的價值，而他們只佔球隊剩餘薪資空間的一半以上。假若lin能夠從膝蓋手術中恢復原有的身手，林會是輪替名單上最好的控球後衛這點沒有疑慮，到那個時候lin就應該會在開幕戰打先發位置，來幫老鷹增加票房收入及吸引媒體球迷目光，達到宣傳效用。而目前沒有任何跡象表明老鷹會在近期內將林書豪交易或買斷，相較於德軟的薪水更高，還是現任先發球員，林書豪作為射手及可以組織控球發起攻勢的球員還比德軟更有價值，而林書豪的這二項技能也就是GM Travis Schlenk 先前表示過的老鷹重建要找的球員優先先看重的二項能力。 However, individual moves don’t happen in a vacuum and while the trade to bring in at least two valuable assets and send out essentially nothing can be viewed as a positive, the other move attached to this trade and the surrounding financial marketplace play massive roles in assessing exactly what the Hawks were thinking in making this particular deal. As has been written about ad nauseum, there were very few teams with cap space to use this summer, with the Hawks starting Thursday as just one of four teams reasonably capable of reaching double-digit space. The edict from Schlenk was that his team was going to use their space to take on a contract from another team in an effort to add to their war chest of future draft picks. If the player attached to that contract can shoot and pass, even better. From that limited perspective, the Hawks once again achieved what they set out to do, but given that the deal was almost simultaneously reported with the Nets’ acquisition of Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur, a protected first-rounder, and an unprotected second-rounder, it’s hard not to imagine what could have been for Atlanta. 然而，老鷹目前陣容沒什變動，雖然這次交易至少帶來兩個有價值的資產而送出沒什實質有價的籤，另一個與此交易相關的操作，老鷹正在確實評估下筆交易。 As has been written about ad nauseum 而自由球員市場進行到現在還有薪資空間的球隊也不多了，周四老鷹先和球員人數已達二位數的四支球隊中的其中一支球隊，進行談判。來自Schlenk的決策是利用老鷹的薪資空間來幫其它隊吃想丟掉的合約，以此來累積未來選秀籤。而如果交易的配菜球員有投射能力和傳球組織能力的話，那就更好了。從這有限觀點來看，老鷹隊至少再次執行了他們預計要做的操作，但這筆交易的同時籃網也跟金塊交易到 Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur ，及受保護的第一輪籤和無保護的第二輪籤，很難想像老鷹本來還可以做些什交易操作。 League-wide, it was an open secret that the Denver Nuggets needed to shed salary. After re-signing Nikola Jokic and Will Barton to massive raises, they were staring down the barrel of a huge tax bill, so they quickly made their moves – Wilson Chandler was shipped to Philadelphia and Faried and Arthur are set to be moved to Brooklyn – to get out from under that financial burden. With so few teams with enough space to take on that money and more than just Denver looking to move on from their bigger-salaried players, it was a buyer’s market; teams like Atlanta, Brooklyn, Chicago, and Sacramento could dictate terms and find the very best deal to maximize that space. 現在NBA每支球隊，大家都知道金塊需要減少薪資空間。尤其在簽回Nikola Jokic and Will Barton後薪資空間爆增，他們正急著清空間來避奢侈稅，所以他們很快的採取交易行動 - Wilson Chandler被送到76人，Faried and Arthur被打包交易到籃網 -以從這奢侈稅負擔中解脫出來。現在很少有足夠空間的球隊來幫金塊吃合約，而現在能幫金塊清掉爛約的球隊的，有老鷹，籃網、公牛和國王隊。 The Nuggets found their match with the Nets, who had to move Lin to Atlanta to get the requisite cap space, which begs the question – why didn’t Atlanta do the same deal with Denver directly, rather than using most of their space in a trade that netted no first-round picks? The Hawks had the necessary space and were operating under the same asset-gathering philosophy as Brooklyn, so it seemed to be a natural fit between the Nuggets and Hawks to get a deal done as soon as the Jokic and Barton deals were reported. 而金塊發現了他們與籃網有交易可能性，籃網因此不得不將林書豪交易到到老鷹來獲取必要的薪資空間，這就引出了一個問題 - 為什麼老鷹沒有直接跟金塊做同樣的交易，而不是將他們大部分空間用於沒有首輪籤的交易？老鷹也跟籃網一樣有足夠的空間來幫金塊吃爛約，並且老鷹也有意跟籃網一樣吃爛約拿籤，所以在看到Jokic和Barton簽完約消息後，老鷹能幫金塊吃爛約好像也蠻合情合理的。 Perhaps that same offer wasn’t on the table for the Hawks, for interpersonal reasons between the two front offices or a myriad of other reasons why deals don’t get done. Even if that same trade wasn’t available to Schlenk and his staff, the logic of waiting for most of free agency to conclude and then taking on Lin’s contract and no first-round picks raised some eyebrows 或許兩個前線辦公室之間存在人際關係原因，或者為什麼交易沒有完成，還有許多其他原因，對於老鷹來說，也許沒有相同的報價。也許沒有相同的交易內容報給Schlenk和他的團隊，而等大多數自由球員都被簽走後，然後交易來林書豪且沒有首輪籤的邏輯引起了一些人的質疑。 There are still moves to be made for the Hawks, who can immediately package Lin with other players in a separate trade or hold him and attempt to trade the immovable object that is Schröder’s contract. With Atlanta apparently interested in keeping Lin on the roster through the end of his contract in 2019, Schröder becomes even more available than he already was. 老鷹隊仍然還可以有一些交易可以操作，他們可以立即將林跟其他球員來操作交易，或者留下他並試圖交易德軟。而老鷹似乎比較傾向於有興趣留下林書豪，而Schröder becomes even more available than he already was。德軟留下可能性變得更高了? There’s a school of thought that theorized that the Hawks already have a buyer for Schröder lined up, so they brought Lin in as a short-term replacement until Trae Young is ready to take over the team in his sophomore season, but given that the organization is committed to a long-term rebuild (read: tanking) this season, spending $13.8 million of valuable cap space on a point guard to shepherd a losing team doesn’t make a ton of sense. There are plenty of options available for the minimum who wouldn’t have been nearly as good as Lin, but again, they don’t want to be good anyway. 還有一派認為，老鷹隊已經為Schröder找到買主還已經在排隊了，所以他們交易Lin過來打一年先發過渡直到Trae Young第二年有實力能打先發時，但鑑於老鷹本賽季致力於長期重建（閱讀：坦克），現在還花了1380萬元的寶貴薪資空間找來一名控球後衛來養對一支確定要坦的球隊並沒有多大意義。有很多選擇，至少現在也找不到像林一樣好的PG，但也許，他們打算坦到底了。 If they do have something for Schröder in the works, it won’t change the fact that taking the offer from Denver, should it have been on the table, and signing a minimum point guard to replace Schröder would have been a better option than how the Hawks handled this trade. Names like Devin Harris and Jameer Nelson could have provided more losing value than Lin on a tenth of his contract, leaving their powder dry for a more lucrative salary dump later in the summer. Atlanta still holds between $7.7 million and $10.4 million in cap space, which is enough to take on another player with more second-rounders, but any dreams of making a big splash on the trade market are made much more difficult with the acquisition of Lin. 如果當初對德軟能多上點心，即使這不會改變從金塊那裡獲得報價的事實，或者現在都已經被擺在檯面上了覆水難收，那就用低薪簽一個堪用的控球後衛來替換德軟還比較是一個更好的選擇搞成現在老鷹該怎麼處理德軟的交易。像 Devin Harris and Jameer Nelson這些球員可以貢獻更多還只有LIN合約薪資的十分之一而已 leaving their powder dry for a more lucrative salary dump later in the summer. 若沒有交易LIN過來的話，至少還能多操作一筆交易拿籤而現在老鷹就還有約770萬到1040萬薪資空間還足夠能在幫吃一張約來拿到一支以上二輪籤但因為現在交易來LIN後使得現在交易拿籤操作變得更加困難。 Hanging over the entire move is Lin’s immense worldwide popularity and the Hawks’ increasing need to be relevant in one way or another during their extended rebuild. Whether the team wins or loses, Lin will sell tickets, jerseys, and other Hawks-related merchandise all over the globe, which will certainly be a benefit to the team’s finances. It wouldn’t be the first time the Hawks made a move (at least in part) for off-the-court financial reasons under Tony Ressler – many attribute the signing of Dwight Howard in 2016 to be heavily influenced by ownership’s desire to sell tickets rather than what was actually better for the team. This isn’t to say Lin is a bad player or isn’t worth his contract, because he almost certainly is when healthy, but to this specific Hawks team in the first phase of their rebuild, the extra on-court value he brings isn’t beneficial enough to outweigh the $13.8 million in cap space that his contract eats. Ownership’s finances are just another aspect of these moves that outsiders will never know – Lin brings with him hordes of fans who will absolutely spend enough on tickets and merchandise to outweigh his contract, especially given that he’ll likely be the starter for Atlanta in 2018-19, but unless there’s an unforeseen move to come in the near future, it’s difficult to see how the Hawks are in a better long-term position than they were when Thursday began. 老鷹重建期間就靠林書豪幫老鷹來增加比賽可看度及增加商業收入及獲利，這無疑將對球隊的財務狀況有所幫助。這可不是老鷹第一次托尼·雷斯勒（Tony Ressler）為了場外獲利而操作交易受歡迎球員過來（至少部分） - 很多人認為2016年DH的到來門票賣得不錯。這並不是說林是一個糟糕的球員或薪資太貴，因為他幾乎肯定會健康回歸的，而對於老鷹隊的重建初期，他帶來的額外場上價值是有利於超過他的合約1380萬美元於球隊實質獲利。 LIN的商業價值是在球場上所看不到的，另一個方面 - 林帶來了大量的粉絲，他們絕對會在門票和商品上花足夠的錢來超過他的薪資，尤其是很可能LIN會在下個賽季打先發，有復建完成前提下但除非之後老鷹有什無法預料的操作外，目前很難看出老鷹在周四後打算採取的動作。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.246.36.94 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hawks/M.1531542128.A.5C8.html

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