Re: [外電] Turkoglu longs for return to Kings

看板Kings (沙加緬度國王)作者santabrelai時間15年前 (2010/06/09 08:08)推噓5(5推 0噓 9→)

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http://0rz.tw/OTjhj 本文為網友評論，僅供參考。 On Hedo Turkoglu and Bad Ideas As you've no doubt heard, Hedo Turkoglu has apparently expressed a desire to return to Sacramento. Ever since Turkoglu was traded from Sacramento, there have consistently been rumors of Sacramento and more specifically, Geoff Petrie, wanting him back, so there could be credence to the rumors that the Raptors and Kings will talk. Hedo近日表達了想要回沙城打球的慾望。其實自從他走後，沙城就和他有些流言緋語，所以這個乳摸並非是空穴來風。 But I think its a bad idea, unless the Raptors make a horribly lopsided trade in Sacramento's favor. Here's why. 但我個人認為這不是個好主意，除非暴龍還丟出更多東西來回報國王的恩德。以下是我的理由： 1. Hedo Turkoglu has 4 years and 43.8 million left on his contract. The 4th year is a player option for 12 million dollars that Brother Hedo would be absolutely insane to waive. Taking into account that the new CBA will likely lower the salary cap and player salaries, Hedo's contract could look even worse than it does now. 1. Hedo大人的約還剩四年四千三百萬。他的第四年是一千兩百萬的球員選擇權，除非他瘋了，不然他應該不會跳出合約。在新款 CBA降低球員薪資及薪資空間的情況下，他的約只會看起來更可怕。 2. Andres Nocioni, the player mentioned in the Woj article as being the one dealt for Turkoglu, has only 2 years left, with a 3rd year as a team option that is unlikely to be picked up. Also, Nocioni's contract declines slightly, while Hedo's rises each year. 2. 線報指出，Noci大人會是包包中的一員，而Noci大人的約還剩兩年，第三年將是球隊選擇權，所以我們最多花兩年就可以跟他說掰掰。此外，Noci大人的合約可是每年減價，不像Hedo的是年年漲高。 3. Hedo has been declining for 3 years in a row now. He will be 31 to start next season, and his statistics from last year are not much different than Andres Nocioni's Per 36 minutes. In fact, Noc averaged more points and the same amount of rebounds as Hedo Per 36. Their FG% and 3P% are relatively comparable as well, although Noc was better from distance. The only thing that Hedo really trumped Nocioni on was assists (4.8 to 1.8 Per 36). 3. Hedo的狀態較有可能是下滑的曲線。他下季就三十一歲了，本季他的平均三十六分鐘成績也和Noci大人相去不遠。事實上，尬三十六分鐘的數據的話，Noci大人的得分還贏過 Hedo，籃板數雙方則差不多。兩人的命中率相近，不過Noci大人的外線要好一些。兩人最大的差異是助攻比：4.8 v.s. 1.8。 4. Hedo's talent would be largely negated in a system that requires Tyreke Evans to have the ball in his hands most of the time. Hedo is often labeled as a "Point-Forward" because he is so good at creating for others while he has the ball in his hands. But in Sacramento, the ball is going to be in Tyreke's hands for most of the time. Can Hedo play as effectively off the ball? 4. Hedo能打控球前鋒的才能會在Reke為主的系統下遭到壓抑。他有能力控球並為他人制造機會，可這得要他的手中有球可控，牙縫男的球可沒有這麼好搶。沒有球的Hedo要幹嘛？（譯：感覺這就他今年在暴龍的樣子....囧>） 5. Hedo is definitely a downgrade when compared to Nocioni on the defensive end. While Nocioni was perhaps not as effective on defense this year as he was in years past, Hedo has never been known for his defensive prowess, and his lack of real speed or athleticism limits him in this area. Paul Westphal clearly values defense, sitting players or playing them based on their defensive effort. This was most noteable with Spencer Hawes and Donté Greene. 5. 防守上的Hedo無法與Noci大人相比。Noci大人有多髒，全世界都知道，Hedo則從未有這方面的讚美，他在速度上的缺乏讓他常處於劣勢。教練今年常常因為爛防守把某些人踢下去板凳坐，他很注重防守的成效，所以屁男孩和沙城隊長三不五時就被換掉。 6. Hedo's addition would mean that if Donté Greene or Omri Casspi (Not to mention that the 5th pick could end up being Wesley Johnson or Al-Farouq Aminu) ever develop into good or even great players, we would have a $10,000,000 + backup for a few years. 6. Hedo的加盟代表沙城隊長和以色列帥哥（搞不好還有第五號選秀）又要無語問蒼天。他們也許有機會當上好球員，現在卻四年都要在一千萬的後面找零碎時間。 http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/474147/z58367090_medium.jpg

Never Forget. Woof. 謝謝您，偉大的K9爺！我們永不會忘記您！ 7. Acquiring Hedo kills a bit of the cap flexibility that Geoff Petrie has taken so long to acquire. A team looking to deal Hedo is not working from a position of strength, as the Kings so often themselves have learned (Chris Webber, Mike Bibby). 7. 拿Hedo，那Petrie這段時間清薪資是清爽的嗎？（是的，非常清爽。）這筆交易也不能增強我們在位置上的戰力，而我們已經做了夠多這樣的事了（Webber、Bibby交易）。 8. (Thanks to KF10) - Hedo's contract has a 15% trade kicker, so if the Kings traded for him, his already horrible contract would become 15% worse. 8. Hedo的合約有個15% 的Trade Kicker（交易限制？），所以如果國王與暴龍進行交易，那筆爛合約會比原來的更爛上15%。 The only way I see the Kings making this trade is if they are able to unload both of their worst contracts (Nocioni and Garcia), and pick up a youngster in Derozan as well as the 13th pick in this years NBA draft. Then it might all be worth it, as Nocioni and Garcia's contracts are lumped into one bad contract as well as reducing our wing depth. Derozan and the 13th pick would be the sweetener for having to take his contract off of Toronto's hands. Just Derozan or the 13th pick wouldn't be enough in my opinion. 對我而言要成立這個交易，暴龍要收下我們的兩筆爛約（Noci大人與Garcia），然後再拿到一隻年輕人Derozan 及13號簽，這樣可能會比較划算。因為丟那兩筆約時，我們在側翼上的戰力一定會減弱。Derozan 和13號可以安慰我們因Hedo而受傷的心靈，不過只拿到其中一個的話，我還是會哭給你看。 I think a lot of the facts back me up. It just wouldn't be a good idea to re-acquire Hedo. I loved him when he was here, and will remember his time here fondly, and I don't want to tarnish those memories. So I'm sorry Brother Hedo, but I just don't think it would work out. 我想了很多理由。所以我覺得這不是個好主意。我很喜歡Hedo，也很懷念他在這兒的時光。但很抱歉，Hedo兄弟，我不希望看到你回家。 -- 很抱歉，Hedo，我也不想看到你回來！理由同上！你回來的話，Garcia粉哭哭給你看喲！ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 125.224.132.63