[外電] Howard 要求分享球權?

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (飛柳)時間13年前 (2013/01/06 10:07), 編輯推噓41(41086)
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這篇在總版有被節譯的新聞,就是 Howard 羨慕快艇一文。 我承認我是柯迷,是被 Kobe 帶進 NBA 的,所以總版有些言論讓我很反感。當然我也會 批 Kobe ,但不會是為酸而酸。 會來翻譯這篇文,還是托了總版的福。自從 Howard 那篇新聞出來後,後續的回文都集中 在 Howard 要求分享球權, Kobe 獨佔出手數上。但那真的是新聞重點嗎? 這場比賽如果你還抱有這樣的成見來看,那我覺得很可惜,這場的 Kobe 都不像 Kobe 了。我對一球印象很深,Kobe 已經在三分線外拔起來,卻在要出手的前一刻傳給 Nash 讓他投進三分球。讓我覺得為了勝利,Kobe 是願意改變的。 有興趣的就把原文看完吧,個人覺得挺有意思的 原文:http://ppt.cc/-Nh2 Every time the Lakers and Clippers get together, there's one play you remember. One play that makes all the talk before and after this game about how there is no real rivalry between these franchises seem cheap. One play that tells the story of where these teams really stand and how they feel about each other. 每當 Lakers 及 Clippers 碰在一起,總會產生一幕讓你印象深刻的場景。一幕暗示著 兩隊處境及對彼此看法的場景。 Kobe Bryant scored 38 points led a valiant comeback at the end, but it wasn't enough for the staggering Lakers against the Clippers. Remember Chris Paul's reaction to Pau Gasol "sonnin'" him last season? Kobe 的38分依舊不足以讓掙扎的 Lakers 對 Clippers 產生威脅。 還記得上季 Paul 與 Pau 的互動嗎? 影片:http://ppt.cc/Tn4s Or Lamar Odom, then a Laker, shoving Blake Griffin after Griffin hustled and tried a little too hard to outmuscle him for a rebound late in a 2011 game the Clippers were clearly going to win. Odom thought it was too much. Griffin thought nothing is ever too much when you're trying to change the culture of one of the league's losingest franchises. And it was on. 或者是去年仍是 Lakers 一分子的 Odom,與 Griffin 意見不合的場景。 影片:http://ppt.cc/l2AX For as long as I've been covering this series, it has been the Clippers looking to prove something. The four games a season against the Lakers were their measuring stick, the night L.A.'s little brother got to take a few swings at its big brother. If they both were lucky, nothing got out of hand and no one got hurt. 從我開始注意這對戰組合時,就一直是 Clippers 在試圖證明自己。一季中對 Lakers 四場比賽,就是他們的評鑑標準,當晚,這洛城的小弟屢次想撼動這位老大哥。 But the Clippers' 107-102 win over the Lakers on Friday was a very different kind of night. It was the Lakers who needed to prove something. To themselves, to the rest of the league and to a city that still wants to believe things eventually will be as they always have been. 但這場星期五晚上的洛城內戰,呈現了截然不同的夜晚。Lakers 變成要證明自己的一方 。不只是對自己、對聯盟,也為了一直想要相信這支球隊一如往常的城市。 And so when Kobe Bryant stole the ball from Paul midway through the first quarter, there was really only one thing to do with it: Dunk it. 也因此,當 Kobe 在第一節從 Paul 手中抄截了那球後,目標就只剩一個。 Dunk it ! "Honestly, I was running and I jumped and the explosiveness was there and it kind of shocked the s--- out of me," Bryant said. Kobe說:坦白說,我就是跑著然後躍起,而那爆發的感覺就...就自然包圍了我。 Nothing like the way Griffin or DeAndre Jordan does it six or seven times a game. And nothing like Bryant used to a decade ago. But after calling his team "old and slow" earlier in the week, Bryant wanted to set a tone and prove a point that it didn't have to be this way. 這跟 Griffin 或 DeAndre Jordan 每場比賽做五六次的動作不一樣,也不全然是 Kobe 十年前習慣的動作。但在公開宣稱自己的隊伍又老又慢後,Kobe 試圖證明不是每場比賽 都非得如此。 "I think Kobe was trying to find a way to motivate us," Lakers forward Antawn Jamison said. "I think guys might think they're tired or whatever, but he's pretty much saying, 'You can't say you're hurt; you can't say you're tired. I've been doing this for 17 years and I've played through injuries and tiredness, and I'm still leading the league in scoring and am one of the most efficient players in the league. So, follow suit.'" 「我覺得 Kobe 是在激勵我們。」 Lakers 前鋒 Antawn Jamison 說,「我想會有人想說 他們累了或怎麼了,但Kobe就像是在說『你不能拿受傷或疲累當藉口,我已經經歷過充滿 傷痛及疲累的17年,而我還是聯盟得分第一人,也是聯盟效率值數一數二的!』」 Had things turned out well for the Lakers, the rest of this column would be about how that play, those words and this game against their now-fearsome little brother inspired the Lakers to dig deep and do what they haven't been able to do yet in this star-crossed season. 如果這場比賽 Lakers 有表現出水準的話,剩下的版面將會告訴你,那個灌籃、那些 言語和這場與現在十分可怕的小老弟的比賽中,Lakers是如何被啟發,並去完成那些 他們這個悲慘球季還達不到表現。 Instead, it was more of what is becoming a troubling pattern: tantalizing spurts of the type of play everyone imagined this team was capable of after it traded for Steve Nash and Dwight Howard, but just as many periods of lethargic energy and dysfunctional play that make you wonder whether the Lakers are reading the same book, let alone getting on the same page. 然而,事情陷入了十分糟糕的模式:大家正沉溺在交易來 Nash 及 Howard 的堅強陣容時 ,在許多老態的精神表現及不正常的組織下,大家開始懷疑這群人真的在閱讀說明書的同 一頁嗎?更別提可能還不是同一本說明書!! That it came against the tight-knit Clippers only served to exacerbate what the Lakers are still so sorely lacking. Call it togetherness or chemistry or heart or effort, we're all pointing at the same thing. 這場與 Clippers 的比賽中,只有更加凸顯 Lakers 所缺乏的。隨便你怎麼稱呼, 叫團結也好,說化學反應、用心、努力都可以,其實都在說明同一件事。 Aside from Bryant's first-quarter dunk, I can't think of one play the Lakers made Friday night that got the kind of reaction Griffin's and Jordan's dunks get from the rest of the Clippers team every single time. Well, outside of 12th man Robert Sacre's dance party. 除了 Kobe 第一節的灌籃,我沒看到有任何 Lakers 的球員在得分後,獲得像 Griffin 和 Jordan 灌籃後 Clippers所給予的回響。喔,對,除了第十二人 Robert Sacre 的舞 會。 The Clippers play with the kind of joy that can only be created organically, over a long period of time, among a group of men who recognize they are better together than apart. 透過長期的默契培養和組織進攻,Clippers 玩得非常盡興,他們很清楚比起各打各的, 團結會讓他們表現得更加出色。 The Clippers have a swagger now. A belief. An identity. 他們打出屬於自己的驕傲,一種信念,一種球風。 The Lakers? They're still searching. And the longer they search, the more pressure there is to get there, or anywhere. Lakers呢?他們仍在找尋。而且他們拖得越久,到達目標的壓力就越沉重。 "Look at the difference between our team and theirs," Howard said. "They just play together. They share the ball. Everybody's excited when something happens. We have to be like that to be a great team." 「看看我們兩隊的不同,」 Howard說,「他們融合在一起。他們分享球權。每件事的發 生都讓他們興奮不已,我們必須成為像那樣一個絕佳的球隊。」 Little brother has learned a thing or two. 小老弟已經有所成長了。 What's difficult to process for the Lakers is that they went into this game knowing that. The Clippers just got done winning 17 games in a row. 對 Lakers 來說,在這場比賽開始前就知道這件嚴峻的事實。Clippers 剛創下17連勝。 "The is the team that had the best record last month and everybody is saying they're contenders, so for us, we've been playing mediocre basketball, this was the time for us to prove a point that we can still compete with the upper-echelon teams," Jamison said. 「這是一隻上個月擁有最佳戰績的球隊,而每支球隊都把他們視為競爭者。所以對我們來 說,我們只打出一場普通的球賽,這本是我們拿來證明自己還能挑戰上位的機會。」 Jamison 如此表示。 "We've got OKC coming up, San Antonio, Houston; we've got to find a way to prove to ourselves that if things keep going the way they're going, the likelihood is we're going to play one of these teams in the first round. We have to set a tone to them that we're going to get this thing rolling and we can still compete." 「將下來要面對 OKC、馬刺、火箭;我們得要想辦法說服自己,如果戰績再繼續這樣下去 ,我們可能會在第一輪面對到這些隊伍。我們必須調整好狀態,讓一切開始運作並讓我們 保有競爭力。」 Still compete? 保有競爭力? If you had heard that coming from any Laker's mouth at the start of the season, you might have laughed. But that's where they stand now. Two games under .500, three months of the season essentially wasted, and looking up at the Clippers. 如果開季前你從任何 Lakers 的球員口中聽到這句話,你大概會笑出聲來。但此刻卻成了 現實。還要贏兩場才有五成勝率,眼睜睜看著 Clippers 升空,而自己還浪費三個月的賽 季。 Yes, Bryant led a valiant comeback at the end. Yes, he continues to play out of his mind, with another 38 points on efficient 15-for-25 shooting. 沒錯,Kobe在最後關頭強勢回歸。 沒錯,他又開了無雙,以25投15中的效率拿下又一場38分。 But so far, neither his play nor his words have been enough. 但直到現在,不論是他的表現或發言都力有未逮。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 我先分享自己的想法好了,我覺得總版有些網友只看到自己想看的,所以眼睛都被 Howard 要求分享球權 這句話給吸引了。 不管是原文作者還是 Howard 還是 Jamison 他們都只在乎一件事 那就是 Lakers 要打出自己的球風,要去享受比賽,當你有心、有熱誠去融入比賽時, 你還怕球權沒得分享嗎?我不相信 Clippers 的進攻就是一直導傳、一直導傳,刻意讓場 上五人都摸到球再進攻,Chris Paul 所率領的 Clippers 是真的在享受比賽。 而且看看Howard的球權 MIN FGM-A FTM-A 36:13 8-14 5-11 老實講,他唯一能不爽的大概只有 Meeks 出手太多而已。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 182.235.185.17

01/06 10:10, , 1F
DH自己沒本事把該進的球放進 沒辦法怪人
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01/06 10:11, , 2F
快艇一直在跑動、擋人、空切 湖人的內線有做到嗎
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01/06 10:12, , 3F
看到Nash一個人在那運來運去 沒人要擋 自然沒球權
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01/06 10:12, , 4F
不是不給球 是球給了連籃框都沒摸到就被別人摸走
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01/06 10:15, , 5F
DH受傷後的彈速差太多了@@
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01/06 10:16, , 6F
廢到連跳跳虎都吃不掉了怪誰
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01/06 10:17, , 7F
DH先想辦法搞定自己的低位單打吧
01/06 10:17, 7F

01/06 10:18, , 8F
不管他身體是不是有傷 湖人真的可以考慮今年開始重建
01/06 10:18, 8F

01/06 10:18, , 9F
基本上 進季後賽也是被屠殺爽的 高層心知肚明
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01/06 10:19, , 10F
問題只是 他們願不願意承認今年做的事情都是失敗而已
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01/06 10:21, , 11F
遙想季初F4,如今要變笑話了嗎QQ
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01/06 10:21, , 12F
有一段時間看Nash在三分線運球等隊友上來擋 結果等半
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01/06 10:22, , 13F
天居然沒人要來擋 然後只好無奈把球給其他人去單打
01/06 10:22, 13F

01/06 10:22, , 14F
那看了真的會吐血
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01/06 10:22, , 15F
其實也沒變笑話拉,只是不期不待XDD
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01/06 10:25, , 16F
己經磨合了一陣子了 看起來真的是不太行XD
01/06 10:25, 16F

01/06 10:26, , 17F
他連球都抓不穩了,要怎麼進攻?
01/06 10:26, 17F

01/06 10:27, , 18F
DH怕自己地位受影響 所以想要得分證明自己 可惜HILL比他好.
01/06 10:27, 18F

01/06 10:29, , 19F
雙塔都不想去擋 那乾脆叫老科上去擋好了(淚)
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01/06 10:44, , 20F
其實不只雙塔 除了NASH外 每個人有各自問題...我們球的輪轉
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01/06 10:44, , 21F
做得很差 外圍防守跟人很囧 幫忙擋人...0(昨天那波關鍵
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01/06 10:45, , 22F
nash只能不斷被對方用身體對抗 卻沒看到人來幫忙擋=.=)
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01/06 10:46, , 23F
等到每個人願意犧牲 換取團隊 這期隊才打得起來 但我想...
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01/06 10:47, , 24F
那時人事全非 已經全面崩潰了吧....
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01/06 10:55, , 25F
ps:我記得尤英也當過魔術助教不是嗎? DH腳步到底是誰教的..
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01/06 10:55, , 26F
怎麼連hill都比他順XDD
01/06 10:55, 26F

01/06 11:10, , 27F
DH不是他的腳步 是他的手有問題 奶油手還沒開始腳步
01/06 11:10, 27F

01/06 11:11, , 28F
就已經掉球了 腳步踩出來 手感差還是沒進 XD
01/06 11:11, 28F

01/06 11:11, , 29F
腳步對他來說 根本就是最後才需解決的事
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01/06 11:12, , 30F
他只要練成在右邊低位拿到球可以轉身右手鉤射 根本不需
01/06 11:12, 30F

01/06 11:12, , 31F
要太多腳步 他掉球都在那個地方掉的
01/06 11:12, 31F

01/06 11:12, , 32F
不去幫NASH擋人真的是最不能理解的。
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01/06 11:17, , 33F
他掉球都嘛運第一下就不見了 腳步再好也用不出來XD
01/06 11:17, 33F

01/06 11:19, , 34F
DH掉球模式: 1.要球 2.接球 3.停頓 4.下球 5.掉球
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01/06 11:20, , 35F
6.雙手一攤
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01/06 11:22, , 36F
DH狂失誤還敢站出來說要球權,先去想想如何團隊打球才是
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01/06 11:23, , 37F
啥抓馬誰對誰錯不予置評 但不幫PG檔人基本上就是該死= =
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01/06 11:23, , 38F
重點,我現在看火箭比賽都比湖人爽度要爽上好幾倍...
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01/06 11:23, , 39F
先把最基本的工作做好再來談球權
01/06 11:23, 39F
還有 48 則推文
01/06 11:50, , 88F
Nash:離開太陽我變成隊上防守指標 也是我始料未及
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01/06 11:52, , 89F
Nash:打球多年 來湖人才知道我也可以變鎖
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01/06 11:54, , 90F
變鎖還要被罵這種事情也是生平第一次遇到
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01/06 12:05, , 91F
我想看Nash一個人自幹
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01/06 12:14, , 92F
Nash哪裡被用得跟老漁一樣? 老於這麼常單場10助攻??
01/06 12:14, 92F

01/06 13:02, , 93F
毒瘤一堆 每個人都很欠批 化學效應太差了
01/06 13:02, 93F

01/06 13:03, , 94F
現在的湖人只是名單看起來很強 實際上無法彼此搭配
01/06 13:03, 94F

01/06 13:03, , 95F
連最基本的防守從熱身賽至今將近四個月了還是交代不好
01/06 13:03, 95F

01/06 13:03, , 96F
感覺是DH想把Nash Nelson化吧 XD
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01/06 13:04, , 97F
到後來只會期待老Nash回來活絡進攻 媽的防守呢??
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01/06 13:04, , 98F
內線的DH很明顯統治力不足 單打效率不好
01/06 13:04, 98F

01/06 13:17, , 99F
有說一定要有S級的進攻手段才能分享球? 球的流動更佳本來
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01/06 13:18, , 100F
就會更好,認同多分享球的觀點,少點自私
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01/06 13:19, , 101F
LBJ對場上的宰制、觀察和傳球 都能讓一些進攻能力普通的
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01/06 13:20, , 102F
球員看起來也很有破壞力 這才是真正的王者
01/06 13:20, 102F

01/06 13:22, , 103F
大牌獸先把擋人擋好再來談球權
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01/06 13:22, , 104F
自己優勢都不會用的球星到底算啥球星 打低位?
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01/06 13:23, , 105F
例如??冏安?
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01/06 13:24, , 106F
DH拼命要低位單打 是不是想證明些什麼???
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01/06 13:30, , 107F
球要多流動沒錯 但人也要跑啊 DH想要的流動不過就是把球
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01/06 13:31, , 108F
傳到低位給他 這跟把球給Kobe看他玩 沒啥兩樣
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01/06 13:42, , 109F
DH的統治力明顯不如歐肥 球硬塞給他命中率也不會高
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01/06 13:55, , 110F
開始了
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01/06 14:00, , 111F
不是球一直給kobe 是球給DH五六成都是單打掰+奶油收場
01/06 14:00, 111F

01/06 14:00, , 112F
給kobe至少有人會跑 或者ISO換包夾控檔
01/06 14:00, 112F

01/06 14:00, , 113F
我不懂這關kobe屁事
01/06 14:00, 113F

01/06 14:01, , 114F
再來球的流動更佳要好沒錯 但沒人要跑怎傳
01/06 14:01, 114F

01/06 14:01, , 115F
以往進攻黑洞是MWP今年可是DH喔= =
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01/06 14:14, , 116F
現在主控是Nash只要肯跑肯擋 球就會傳過去了
01/06 14:14, 116F

01/06 14:37, , 117F
掉球先擺一邊,DH要不要看看自己要球時多會進攻犯規...
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01/06 14:43, , 118F
合體這幾場KOBE已經少了很多不合理的ISO了
01/06 14:43, 118F

01/06 14:44, , 119F
在合理出手的情況下KOBE多投根本沒問題(尤其高FG%)
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01/06 14:44, , 120F
KB是看的出來有在修正配合 而DH連擋人都不願意
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01/06 14:59, , 121F
高層沒失敗阿~~只是誰知道組合起來會是這個鳥樣
01/06 14:59, 121F

01/06 15:35, , 122F
真的去看火箭打球差很多 球不斷的輪轉,今天就有很多球是
01/06 15:35, 122F

01/06 15:35, , 123F
lin切入分球籃下,籃下又立刻移轉到外線或者中距離
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01/06 15:36, , 124F
這樣拉出來的空間會比你在那邊單打iso磨半天來的好很多..
01/06 15:36, 124F

01/06 18:06, , 125F
現今聯盟第一中鋒 結果只是這付鳥樣。
01/06 18:06, 125F

01/07 09:30, , 126F
謝拉,總算看到一篇較真實的文章,害我以為湖人又內亂了
01/07 09:30, 126F

01/07 09:31, , 127F
真的翻譯不同,有些人偏重不同會模糊焦點,多謝原PO用心
01/07 09:31, 127F
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