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Re: [外絮] Kobe & BS, push for J-Lin to play 積極

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (王者湖人)時間11年前 (2014/10/31 11:33), 編輯推噓21(22推 1噓 35→)
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怎麼當初不請禪師回鍋？ 我記得版上當初有有討論過 禪師開出的條件是只出席主場（客場教練請另外再找）＋湖人的實質管理權 這兩點 Jim Buss或許還能接受第一點，第二點根本就是培養一個尾大不掉的外患 雖然說 禪師也算是半個Buss家族的人， 但始終是妹妹的人馬，禪師女朋友我記得只負責搞賣票和行銷方面的事務 所以怎麼看Jim Buss都不會讓禪師再度回鍋 意外的是老大居然在這件事情上面，沒有太多的意見 結果就是... 找了一堆的總教練-->期待-->被球迷罵西瓜-->走人領錢 不斷的循環ing 另外，老大似乎頗看重Lin 不斷地激勵他 我也是覺得 那是因為整隊除了老衲以外，是他唯一可以信任的隊友了...Orz ※ 引述《djviva (淡定~ 穩中求勝)》之銘言： : ※ [本文轉錄自 Jeremy_Lin 看板 #1KKllx2w ] : 作者: djviva (淡定~ 穩中求勝) 看板: Jeremy_Lin : 標題: [外絮] Kobe & BS, push for J-Lin to play 積極 : 時間: Fri Oct 31 11:03:18 2014 : Kobe Bryant, Byron Scott push for Jeremy Lin to play more aggressive : Kobe跟總教練一同催促著要林書豪打得更積極些 http://tinyurl.com/pzt66y5 : PHOENIX — The possibility of having a clean slate invigorated Jeremy Lin. : 來到湖人重新開始真的大大振奮了林書豪 : No more worries remained about living up to “Linsanity” that sparked during : a breakout season in New York. No more uncertainty lingered about his : fluctuating role during two frustrating years in Houston. But only two games : into an already trying Lakers’ season, Lin has encountered a new challenge. : 不用再去煩惱曾有過的林來瘋, 不用像在火箭的那兩年需要去臆測自己在球隊的定位, : 但披上紫金戰袍僅僅兩場比賽, 林書豪就遭遇到了史萊姆(誤)....新的挑戰 : How to play with Kobe Bryant. : 那就是....如何跟Kobe Bryant一起在場上打球 : “He’s used having to look over his shoulder all the time and playing with : players who like controlling the ball a lot,” said Bryant, an obvious : reference to New York’s Carmelo Anthony and Houston’s James Harden. “I : told him that’s a big urban legend of me. I want to score. That means coming : off of picks, catching and shooting. You handle the ball and you run the show. : ” : Kobe說: 因為林書豪以前跟喜歡掌控球權的球星像是Melo和鬍子一起打球, 所以他習慣 : 了在場上都會留心這些球星的看法而放不開, 我就跟他說, 大家也是這樣說我, 因為我 : 想要拿分, 這代表著我想要接到球, 然後接球就投, 所以你去控球然後由你來主導看攻 : 勢要怎樣跑 : That hardly happened in the Lakers’ 119-99 loss on Wednesday to the Phoenix : Suns at U.S. Airways Center. Bryant’s 31 points on 11-25 shooting in 27 : minutes offered encouraging signs about his linear progression after playing : only six games last season amid injuries to his left Achilles tendon and left : knee. But Bryant’s performance also served as a stark contrast to the lack : of a supporting cast around him. No one seemed more affected by that issue : more than Lin, who scored six points on 2 of 5 shooting in 21 minutes. : 這期待在上一場119-99大敗給太陽時並沒看到, Kobe那場出賽27分鐘25投11中拿下31分 : 讓球迷們看到了希望, 但孤掌難鳴啊, Kobe的表現跟所有隊友對比起來, 林書豪受到的 : 影響最大, 這場球林書豪上場21分鐘內只有5投2中拿下僅僅6分 : “He has to go out and play his game,” Scott said of Lin. “He’s thinking : too much about the game. Just go out and play basketball.” : 對此總教練表示: 林書豪必須得放開來打出屬於自己的比賽, 他想太多了, 單純的上場 : 然後好好打球就好 : Perhaps easier said than done considering the unique dynamic surrounding : Bryant. Both Bryant and Lin are sharing point-guard duties in Scott’s : Princeton-run offense. That system also features Bryant in a comfortable : setting on the post and elbows. But it also creates isolation plays for : Bryant, who took a handful of shots through double teams despite having open : teammates. : 或許站著說話不腰疼, 林書豪面對的可是天上天下唯我獨尊的的男人˙Kobe啊! 在Scott : 的普林斯頓戰術下, 林書豪跟Kobe一同分享控衛的責任, 這系統的一個特色就是讓Kobe : 能舒適的在低位(post)跟罰球線兩端的肘區(elbow)發揮, 如果Kobe接球後被包夾不管 : 其他隊友是否有空檔機會, 這系統也替他創造出單打的機會 : Perhaps that explains why Lin seemed caught off guard when reporters relayed : the message to him about Scott wanting him to play more aggressive. : 或許, 這就解釋了為什麼在記者們傳達上述Scott要林書豪打的更積極點給林書豪聽的時 : 候, 林的反應是愣住.... : “I didn’t feel like I was that hesitant,” Lin said. “I felt like when I : had opportunities I was trying to attack. I’ll go and take a look at the : film and see if that’s the case or not. In my mind I thought I was assertive : and trying to make plays.” : 林書豪說: 我並不認為我打得很猶豫, 當有機會時我總是試著去攻擊, 晚點我會去重看 : 比賽錄影, 看看我是否真如他們說的那樣, 但我自己是覺得我打得很果斷也一直在試著 : 進攻 : But that rarely happened. The Lakers shot only 4 of 13 from three-point : range, including Lin missing two attempts from beyond the arc. That prompted : Bryant to take on the heavier workload. : 可是事情似乎並非如此, 湖人這場三分線13投僅僅命中4顆, 林書豪兩次三分出手沒中, : 這促使了Kobe站出來攬下更多的得分重擔 : “I have to do what I have to do sometimes if things aren’t working,” : Bryant said. “I have to manufacture [scoring]. But I’d much rather have : him run the show. That’s what he’s good at doing. He’s good at getting : into the lane and running it for other people. It’s a matter of him pulling : the bull by the horns.” : Kobe說: 當球隊打得不順時我就必須得跳出來做我該做的事, 得跳出來得分, 但我真的 : 更寧願林書豪站出來主導我們的攻勢, 這也是林在行的, 他既能切入禁區也能替其他人 : 創造機會, 他真的得不畏艱難的跳出來啊, 就像抓住狂奔公牛的牛角一樣! : Lin showed plenty of that during exhibition play with the second unit, : bringing a fast-paced tempo to an offense that featured countless : pick-and-roll lobs to Ed Davis and open jumpers for everyone. Lin also : attacked the basket with precision, including in last week’s exhibition : against Phoenix where he closed out the game with Bryant. Then, Lin scored 11 : fourth-quarter points, while Bryant made three consecutive fadeaways. : 季前賽搭配第二陣容時, 林書豪曾多次的展現出他的這種能力, 林書豪讓湖人攻勢加快, : 跟Ed配合打出許多次成功的pick and roll, 也替所有人創造出空檔出手的好機會! 此 : 外林書豪也讓大家看到他那精準切入籃下取分的身手, 包含上周對上太陽的那場季前賽 : , 之後在Kobe連續三次後仰跳投命中下, 林書豪也在那個第四節毫不遜色的拿下11分 : Lin has said he relished Bryant’s mentorship, which has entailed providing : various tips on how to defend better and how to play more aggressively. Lin : also believes he can cite on his past experience playing with Harden and : Anthony even if his time with Bryant comes at the tail end of his career. Lin : also downplayed any chemistry issues with Bryant and mentioned the Suns’ 16 : of 32 mark from three-point range as a bigger problem. : 對於Kobe教他怎樣能防守的更好, 以及怎樣能打得更積極, 林書豪由衷表示欣賞, 同 : 時他也相信因為以往跟球星鬍子與Melo共事的經驗, 現在跟Kobe搭配也能很好, 他輕 : 描淡寫的聊及跟Kobe間的化學效應, 話鋒一轉認為讓太陽三分32投16中是更大的問題 : “The goal is for me to find a way to facilitate and complement him,” Lin : said, “while bringing what I can bring to the table.” : 林書豪說: 我的目標是去找出方法來幫助Kobe, 彌補Kobe不足的地方, 盡我所能 : And in Bryant’s mind, he hopes that entails Lin not playing as he is walking : on eggshells to appease his demanding teammate. Bryant then invoked Lakers : guard Derek Fisher, mentioning how he never became afraid in standing up to : him. He largely credited that dynamic in ensuring five NBA championships. : 但對Kobe來說呢, 他希望的卻是林書豪別再像站在蛋殼上那樣小心翼翼的在打球, 還拿 : 了Fisher當例子, Fisher當初可是都能不亢不卑毫不畏懼的去面對Kobe : “We used to bicker and snipe at each other all the time and I couldn’t love : the teammate more,” Bryant said. “These guys are young and it takes time to : understand that. Teams become great by challenging each other. I want him to : orchestrate the offense, call the right plays and get the ball in the right : spots. It might take a little bit getting used to for him.” : Kobe說: 當年我們可是都直來直往的啊, 我愛死Fisher了, 現在的隊友還太年輕需要多 : 點時間去明白這點, 所謂的球隊, 就是得靠著互相激勵挑戰彼此才能變得更棒的呀! : 我要林書豪去組織進攻, 打他認為對的戰術, 然後讓球傳導到對的位置, 這對林書豪來 : 說, 或許還需要更多點時間去習慣吧~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 60.199.29.167 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1414726434.A.039.html
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10/31 11:34, , 1F
Lin就差在單打不強，所以模式比較好判斷
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不過他偶爾得像Farmar那樣過半場有機會就噴
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10/31 11:37, , 3F
關於這件事情我想老大沒什麼影響力吧...
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10/31 11:38, , 4F
坐等Jim下臺
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10/31 11:39, , 5F
Jim下台 老大也退休了
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10/31 11:39, , 6F
禪師在的話應該比老科更有吸引球星的能力？？
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10/31 11:40, , 7F
教練換太多太快 每年都重練一套球員也免洗 根本練不出啥默契
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搞不好總教練是老魚？！
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10/31 11:41, , 9F
明年一樣又洗另一套陣容 所以今年說在多也是白說
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推kobelakers大！
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10/31 11:41, , 11F
看老魚今天的調度 給他執教好啊!
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10/31 11:43, , 12F
贏球當然什麼都沒問題 XD
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10/31 11:44, , 13F
明年制服組不能像今年這麼拖，等大魚，然後總教練決
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10/31 11:45, , 14F
定也太慢，影響頗大
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10/31 11:45, , 15F
當初明明禪師有說過幾天給回復~JIM亂搞的~
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10/31 11:45, , 16F
等個幾天就不會變成這幾年的慘劇了~即便是禪師干政~
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老魚至少不會只在場邊摸下巴嘛!
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10/31 11:46, , 18F
也比現在慘不人賭好~至少禪師有一定的影響力
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10/31 11:46, , 19F
教練找自己弟子~不懂禪師也可以場邊指導~
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10/31 11:47, , 20F
總比現在的戰術~球給KOBE的模式好多了!
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這兩年我只期待找兩隻A級，老K退休再找兩隻S級快速重建
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10/31 11:48, , 22F
三角之下KOBE雖然也是主導~但是配角都有出手空間!
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10/31 11:49, , 23F
我覺得一直換陣容也是原因啦
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10/31 11:49, , 24F
不然至少同一批人還是有固定默契存在
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10/31 11:50, , 25F
換陣容還換戰術
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10/31 11:53, , 26F
空檔都能放槍 還是換個陣容優先
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10/31 11:56, , 27F
明年洗一批陣容是正常的，不過會有不少是rookie，Jim沒本
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10/31 11:57, , 28F
錢再供他揮霍了，明年以新人為骨幹後，就會開始配點綴的
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10/31 11:58, , 29F
然後給16年的那批FA看...他妹可是在背後虎視眈眈
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10/31 11:59, , 30F
真的需要加強天賦了 每年洗雜魚也釣不到人來
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10/31 12:01, , 31F
今年夏天的決策也很奇怪~不是應該邊攬大牌邊收綠葉~
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10/31 12:02, , 32F
結果卻是一直等大牌~搞到綠葉都跟別人簽了~剩雜魚!
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10/31 12:03, , 33F
綠葉其實都是RFA 不好釣啦 XD
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10/31 12:03, , 34F
一堆有能力的綠葉~都跟湖人擦身而過~分明想坦到底~
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大小姐說要續牽老K，JIM應該皮皮踹吧 XD
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10/31 12:04, , 36F
來來去去最後就剩枯枝落葉了
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老大會期望Lin是很合理的，畢竟他親眼見證過Lin在他的
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面前獨得38分過，他相信Lin狠起來絕對會是個很棒的砍將
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10/31 12:07, , 39F
老實說跟那個無關=.="
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只是我不確定Kobe16年後會不會還留在湖人，如果依舊健康
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的話...沒競爭力的球隊，他多少會失望
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尼克當時有籃板有快攻，有防守有外線，湖人是以上皆非
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10/31 12:08, , 43F
如果KOBE健康~沒競爭力的湖人~他應該寧願退休吧!
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10/31 12:08, , 44F
依他個性受不了一直輸球~寧願眼不見為淨~退休!
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10/31 12:09, , 45F
倘若他本季健康打完一整季，很可能15-16年季中，湖人就會
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10/31 12:09, , 46F
再度捧著鈔票跟他續約
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10/31 12:10, , 47F
最慘的是甚至連跑個位都辦不到，林這季可能就這樣GG了
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10/31 12:11, , 48F
Lin的問題，我相信會解決的，以他的IQ...
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10/31 12:11, , 49F
你們不動，只好我動XD
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10/31 12:12, , 50F
不請禪師的不是 Jim，禪師在湖人簽新教練前有說他跟 Jim 談
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得很愉快，簽約後沒多久有記者問他，禪師說是老老闆決定的
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10/31 12:13, , 52F
最多就只是變成多一個人自幹而已，雜魚已經沒救了
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10/31 12:13, , 53F
，大概是怕 JIM 被架空吧。
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拍板的是老Buss吧 不要啥都要Jim扛
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10/31 12:20, , 55F
反正小公主已經在等著了xd....
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老buss不是喜歡MDA的籃球風格嗎
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噓
10/31 14:03, , 57F
你是在吠什麼？豪神不是大牌嗎？說這種話有經過腦子嗎？
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10/31 14:20, , 58F
就是干政所以才不喜歡阿 新一代管理都會有這個問題
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