[外電] Jack Ramsay:LeBron-Wade,史上最強組合?

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1FmuDf_e ] 作者: cat0806 (Cater) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Jack Ramsay:LeBron-Wade,史上最強組合? 時間: Mon May 28 21:53:43 2012 Can LeBron-Wade assume throne of NBA partners? NBA legends like Jack Ramsay say they've seen none better May 26, 2012|Dave Hyde, Sun Sentinel Columnist Jack Ramsay has seen it all in six decades around pro basketball. He ranks seventh among coaching wins. He won rings as a coach and general manager. He just called four playoff games in five nights for ESPN radio — his Heat-originated line still "The Slam-mer!" Jack Ramsay 在籃球生涯裡已經見識過60年的風雨, 在執教勝場方面,他排在歷史第7位,作為教練和 GM ,他都得過總冠軍戒指。 近日,Ramsay 接受採訪時談了自己對於 LeBron James 和 Dwyane Wade 在與溜馬系列賽最後3場比賽表現的看法。 As he stands in the Indianapolis airport, Ramsay tries to sum up, really sum up, what he thought watching LeBron James and Dwyane Wade play together these last three games in one simple, declarative sentence: 根據與溜馬系列賽最後三場,Jack Ramsay 下了一句總結: "I've never seen two players like them together,'' says Ramsay, 86. 86歲的 Ramsay 表示:「我還沒見過像他們這樣的一對組合。」 Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen? 那麼比起 Michael Jordan 和 Scottie Pippen 呢? "No, no,'' he says. "Michael, of course, is the best. But Pippen didn't attack offensively like these two do. He couldn't do what they do." 「不不,Michael 當然是最好的,但 Pippen 並沒有像他們兩個在進攻上具有侵略性, 他做不到他們兩個做的事情。」 Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? 那麼 Magic Johnson 和 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 呢? "Great individual players, but nothing like these two in the manner they work the court at both ends,'' Ramsay says. 「兩個都是偉大球員,但沒有一點是可以和 LeBron 和 Wade 在攻防兩端做的相比。」 This is how quickly conversations change under the weight of consequence in NBA springs. A year ago, the hot topic was whether Wade and James could even play together. A week ago, the question was why Wade wasn't Wade anymore. 一年之前,媒體還都在大量質疑 LeBron 和 Wade到底能不能一起合作。 一週之前,媒體都還在質疑為什麼 Wade 打不出原來那個 Wade 的樣子。 Now it's as if the curtain is rising on a historical spring for Wade and LeBron as basketball brains riff through historically tested partnerships. 現在,大家都開始認為 LeBron & Wade 是史上最傑出的組合了。 Jerry West and Elgin Baylor? 那麼 Jerry West 和 Elgin Baylor 呢? "Maybe that's the closest,'' Ramsay says. "They had a season [1960-61] where they both averaged in the 30s. And West had some unique qualities as a defender. He's the first guy I ever saw who would lure his matchup, funnel him ahead and when he shot the jumper would take it off his hand from slightly behind." 「或許這是最接近的一組,在60-61年,他們兩個場均得分都超過30分。 而且 West 有一些獨特的防守技巧,他是我看過第一個會先放對手過去, 等對方出手時再從身後干擾。」 He smiles. "LeBron did that to Indiana players a few times, only he gave them layups and blocked them." 「LeBron 在對上溜馬時也是這麼做的,他先讓對手上籃,然後再去蓋火鍋。」 Three playoff games is a mere sampling, of course. A teaspoon-size tease. The question without help like Chris Bosh in the middle is whether this is the start of something or the climax of it. Individually, LeBron averaged 32.7 points and 11.7 rebounds and Wade 33 points the last three games against Indiana. Oh, and they shot a combined 58.2 percent. 對溜馬最後三場比賽, LeBron 場均32.7分11.7籃板, Wade 場均33分。 兩人投籃命中率結合起來達到 58.2%。 http://ppt.cc/,2MA 評價真高!!! [公告] JackRamsay 引戰,水桶一個月 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.24.207.134

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※ 編輯: cat0806 來自: 114.24.207.134 (05/28 21:54)

05/28 21:55, , 2F
大概是指熱火史上吧?
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明天看看囉~
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那就三個人包James兩個人包Wade 不管其他人...
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05/28 21:57, , 5F
戒指=12:1 謝謝
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05/28 21:58, , 6F
LeBron = 21世紀的MJ
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那KOBE跟律師呢
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樓上組合= ="
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還以為LEBRON改姓WADE...
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勒布朗 + 韋德 = 四個佐敦 真的很可怕
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現在的球迷很幸運 能夠看到史上最偉大的鋒衛組合
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所以LBJ是不會被過的 如果你過了他 那是他放你過的..
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假摔最強
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跟OK比還差遠了
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講組合永遠是MJ+SP
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LBJ+Wade是輪流無雙的進攻力這方面有史上頂尖組合
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(不是說其他等方面不強..只是單要比到歷史級的話)
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溜馬進攻沒能給這兩人太大威脅也是原因
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OK連線跟他們是不一樣的. LBJ+WADE是合成,OK是分解
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整體來看MJ+Pip, OK連線應該都更強..
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MJ.Pip 表示
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對到馬刺、雷霆不會這麼輕鬆 防守的消耗會差很多
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最佳組合但拿不到冠軍很不錯啊..
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沒錯 樣本數不足 等這組拿過冠軍再來說吧
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沒拿到冠軍就被稱最佳組合 開什麼玩笑
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kobe + 服務生 史上最____的組合
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公牛二人 OK完爆三王 更不用說只有詹偉
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反火迷崩潰
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這實在是捧太兇了 不說總冠軍 連最佳勝場都沒達到過
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每次這種文章出來就有人要高潮了
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MJ+Pip只能說是史上防守最強的二人組 進攻方面的破壞
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力Pip差MJ太大 當然不是指Pip得分弱只是MJ進攻太猛
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史上最強 冠軍拿了幾個?
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捧覽趴
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說實在的,並沒有OK連線,是O和 連線,空格可以隨意填
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純推ok~跟公牛雙俠
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要說史上最強二人組且均衡的話 magic+Jabbar最適合
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有人氣到跳腳
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O犯連線
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且不論冠軍數 個人數據獎項 NBA的地位都是頂尖的
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沒拿過總冠軍就說是史上最強組合? 有這麼嗨啊?
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史上最強大頭症組合
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史上最沒品組合
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反火迷崩潰 pip本來就沒那麼強大
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LBJ需要戒指來證明自己 這個組合更需要王朝來證明...
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史上最中二組合
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Chef Ramsay表示:
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這篇說明了MJ>LBJ&DW>>>>>>>>>>KB
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只看對溜馬後面三場的確是如此阿 長久而言或許不是
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兩人生涯合計1冠 合體後0冠 狗屁最強組合
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有種防守就跟那兩隻一樣拿到六冠再來說
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XD
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二人組再怎麼輪也輪不到他們
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打臉總是最愉快的
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KOBE+ONEAL電翻
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史上最強0冠組合這兩個可以考慮一下XD
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05/28 23:20, , 57F
歐肥這個只會搭順風車的死胖子沒資格跟老大並稱組合
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如果以他的地位還有經歷還看走眼的話 那版上酸酸....
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MJ選秀也選一堆水貨啊
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這種文章跟造神文差在哪裡
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