Re: [問題] MLB人氣的下滑?

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者時間15年前 (2010/11/04 12:26), 編輯推噓33(33031)
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※ 引述《OGC5566q (歐居西56)》之銘言: : 其實季初就想問這問題了XD : 剛好看上面有人在討論收視率 : 所以就問了 : 之前看了一本書 叫做瘋足球 迷棒球 : 裡面提到了一些MLB的問題 : 最主要就是年輕的族群喜歡MLB的越來越少了 : 現在支撐MLB的是以中老年為主力(有觀眾平均年齡上升的趨勢) : 年輕人似乎都被NBA 足球 美足等快節奏的運動吸引過去 : 他們覺得棒球節奏太緩慢了 : 像是WS Allstar 收視率逐年下滑 : 最恐怖的是 : 10~20 20~30歲區間的收視率下滑極為嚴重 : 主要還能維持一些基本盤都是因為50歲以上收視率基本上很穩固 : MLB高層似乎也有些應對措施 : 只是以這趨勢看來 : MLB的未來前景似乎令人堪憂 以下是今年初forbes的調查 Major League teams enjoyed record profits last season despite the bad economy. http://tinyurl.com/ya7uoey There really is no crying in baseball. Not when it comes to what teams are worth and the money they earn. The average Major League Baseball team is now worth $491 million, 2% more than last year. In 2009, smack in the middle of the worst economy in seven decades, baseball's 30 franchises turned in a record-high operating income (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) of $522 million, an average of $17.4 million per team. The NBA had a tough 2008-09 season. This one could be even worse. http://tinyurl.com/yh37uua The ball took some bad bounces for the National Basketball Association during the past year. With their wallets pinched by job losses, pay cuts and higher food and gasoline prices, basketball fans are thinking twice about plucking down $50 for your typical NBA seat. Teams like the Indiana Pacers, Minnesota Timberwolves and New Jersey Nets were forced to slash ticket prices to lure fans to games in the midst of a recession. The high end of the market also worsened: Revenue from pricey club seats and luxury suites fell for the Detroit Pistons, Miami Heat and New York Knicks. That's a problem for the NBA given that player costs (including bonuses and benefits) increased to $2.3 billion during the 2008-09 season from $2.2 billion the previous year. Values are down and labor issues will soon roil the league, but pro football faces a far larger long-term business problem. http://tinyurl.com/3xrt87s Last year proved that even the blue chip National Football League has not been immune to the recession. NFL team values fell 2% last season to an average of $1.02 billion, the first decline since Forbes began tracking the league's finances in 1998, with 21 of the league's 32 teams seeing their worths drop. (Note: Our valuations are enterprise values, and include revenue from stadiums but not the value of the real estate.) Team values slipped because the bad economy has reduced demand (there are fewer people with the cash to buy a team, and borrowing has become more difficult) and less nonbroadcasting revenue for many teams. =============================================================================== MLB是唯一能在這幾年經濟不景氣的情況下還能成長的聯盟 也難怪Selig能意氣風發的說現在是棒球界的黃金盛世 NFL雖然球隊資產縮水但靠著轉播合約還可以保持水準以上的收入 最慘的是NBA,大環境不佳加上球員支出上升 這些因素加起來,這陣子NBA有減隊風聲傳出也就不那麼讓人意外了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133

11/04 12:30, , 1F
打小力點 XD
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11/04 12:35, , 2F
看米國人寫的書 常常不小心就講到棒球...
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11/04 12:38, , 3F
如果美式足球一季有162場,收視率還能維持原來的水準嗎?
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11/04 12:39, , 4F
回樓上 不能 因為可能打不完球員就死光了
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11/04 12:39, , 5F
美式足球打162場,大概全隊要死九成以上球員了XD
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11/04 12:40, , 6F
這種假設根本不公平,那為何不說棒球只打一場看看?
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11/04 12:40, , 7F
我覺得用黑哨來影響營收不是陰謀
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11/04 12:40, , 8F
每種運動的場次都是根據那項運動的狀況訂出來的
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11/04 12:42, , 9F
NFL大概30年前一季例行賽14場,後來改16場
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11/04 12:42, , 10F
現在已經有老闆提議說要增加為18場
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11/04 12:43, , 11F
老闆們想多撈一點,不過球員多數是反對的,因為太累了
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11/04 12:45, , 12F
開玩笑,整場比賽在那邊又跑又撞的,打162場我看球員也要打
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11/04 12:46, , 13F
一休四才行了
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11/04 12:46, , 14F
NFL球員真的是賺辛苦錢呀,一周打一場就會要命了
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11/04 12:50, , 15F
類似的橄欖球 要求是48小時才能在次比賽 162場...XD
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11/04 12:51, , 16F
NFL別說打,光練習一不小心都可能把身體搞壞,不過我比
11/04 12:51, 16F

11/04 12:51, , 17F
較關心美國青年參與MLB是否比例真的不高,日本也有這問
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11/04 12:51, , 18F
美國大學美式足球平均每年在場上要死五個人 162場.....
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11/04 13:27, , 20F
美足一年打162場的話球員生命可能只有半個球季(誤)
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11/04 13:46, , 21F
NFL一季打162場XDDDDDDDDD
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11/04 13:49, , 22F
其實我覺得這兩件事情並不衝突, 20~30歲本來就不是主力能花
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11/04 13:50, , 23F
真的要打162場,應該是每場球員都不太一樣,登入名單300人這樣
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11/04 13:50, , 24F
錢的人, 所以 profit 的確是靠 40~50 這群供應的, 而 20~30
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11/04 13:50, , 25F
的收視的確下滑 不過要考慮可能轉向 mlb.tv, 這部份MLBAM沒
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11/04 13:50, , 26F
有提供甚麼相關數據可以參考
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11/04 14:09, , 27F
棒球光162*15這樣的場數 就已經夠恐怖了..
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11/04 14:14, , 28F
NFL如果打162場 可能國小生就可以參加選秀了吧
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11/04 14:34, , 29F
NFL動不動就是抬出場耶
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11/04 14:38, , 30F
NBA板 不管怎樣都在熱門第一頁...很明顯MLB輸吧...
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11/04 14:41, , 31F
那只限定台灣巴 而且洋基板人也爆多的
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11/04 14:58, , 32F
洋基板 可能還沒湖人版多...
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11/04 15:02, , 33F
台灣人又沒中華職籃可以看,還是很多人只看中職的
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11/04 16:05, , 34F
Q大是用PTT看天下嗎...
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11/04 16:06, , 35F
如果內需市場那麼強烈 需要那麼早就拓展國際市場嗎?
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11/04 16:15, , 36F
Quickly 這種以台灣看天下的事情就別拿出來說了
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11/04 16:19, , 37F
PTT熱門看板....我有看錯嗎? 哪來的搞笑言論...
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11/04 16:21, , 38F
那世界上最多人瘋的足球...在台灣如何咧...
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11/04 16:36, , 39F
跟Q認真就輸了
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11/04 16:36, , 40F
在台灣不用比吧..籃球跟棒球的受歡迎程度有差
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11/04 16:37, , 41F
只是棒球還有分看中職orMLBor日職
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11/04 16:38, , 42F
看到q大我笑了 又一個ptt看天下的人
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11/04 16:39, , 43F
不然比一下NBA板跟baseball板好了XD
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11/04 16:59, , 44F
問題本來就是討論NBA跟MLB 跟Baseball有啥關係
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11/04 17:00, , 45F
NBA在國際上本來就比MLB受歡迎 打籃球的國家遠超過棒球
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11/04 17:41, , 46F
台灣對NBA的喜愛程度在國際上是名列前茅的
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11/04 18:46, , 47F
覺得與其在擔心美國本土收視 不如擔心棒運在國際的發展
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11/04 19:17, , 48F
美足打162場真的會死光光 XDDDDDDDDDDD
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11/04 19:24, , 49F
NBA在台灣比MLB有市場絕非什麼打籃球國家超過棒球
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11/04 19:25, , 50F
很簡單只是因為NBA的海外行銷(或者直接把海外帶成台灣
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11/04 19:26, , 51F
也可) 遠比MLB早 而且其投入的野心.經費.手法和商業資源
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11/04 19:26, , 52F
甚至造神 在近幾年之前都遠遠遠超過MLB
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11/04 19:27, , 53F
台灣是被長期深耕的結果 而且兩聯盟在近年來有相當大的
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11/04 19:27, , 54F
拉近 不要再有一些天真無邪的觀念了...
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11/04 20:56, , 55F
看了一下,NBA平均每隊營收是126M,比MLB少一些
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11/04 20:57, , 56F
NBA的問題是後半球隊營收太慘,若沒有像MLB的分享機制
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11/04 20:58, , 57F
那果真是該倒一倒,沒想到NFL球隊平均賺這麼多,用b來算
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11/04 21:00, , 58F
比賽場次這麼少還這麼賺= =
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11/04 21:49, , 59F
美國人最愛football 不只是NFL 連NCAA也是瘋狂
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11/04 22:51, , 60F
如果在台灣的話.. NBA幾乎就是籃球的代名詞
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11/04 22:52, , 61F
而如果你想看棒球 你也許會選擇...中職 日職 美職
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11/05 01:05, , 62F
我看到NFL一年打162場時大笑了XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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11/05 03:55, , 63F
平均每年死五個....難怪被稱為信仰級的運動. 血祭啊.- -b
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11/06 00:20, , 64F
MLB的好處是實力比較平均 不像NBA那樣有明顯的前後段
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