Re: [情報] 近一年薪水王

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者 (翹你的小鋼盔)時間14年前 (2011/02/11 17:28), 編輯推噓13(13016)
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02/11 15:15,
Pujols 被選上應是 scout 厲害,另外當時紅鳥 FO 可是
02/11 15:15

02/11 15:16,
開給他第一份 offer 還被打槍咧。
02/11 15:16

02/11 15:17,
但話說回來,到 13 輪才被選上,對照現今成就,也可以
02/11 15:17

02/11 15:18,
說當年三十隊的選秀可能都有問題。 XD
02/11 15:18

02/11 15:31,
第13輪選到這種選手不是球探厲害 是中樂透好嗎?
02/11 15:31
http://tinyurl.com/6dcus6p By Wright Thompson From discovering Pujols to working at Wal-Mart Dave Karaff doesn't have to work right now. Five days a week he stocks grocery shelves at the local Wal-Mart, but tonight, he settles into the comfy, oversized chair to watch his beloved St. Louis Cardinals in the World Series. The man's got a right to love them. He spent seven years as a Cardinals scout before being let go in 2003. His biggest signee was the guy walking up to the plate right now: reigning National League MVP Albert Pujols. Yes, that's right. The scout who signed Albert Pujols stocks groceries in an Arkansas Wal-Mart. How's that for an organizational thank you? Some guys get bonuses. Others get watches. Karaff got canned. Karaff, a friendly 64-year-old grandfather, doesn't mind if you come watch Game 2 with him, but under one condition: He's not gonna talk about Pujols. Though the slugger is wildly talented, he's also as sensitive as a junior high cheerleader and is still peeved because he believes Karaff said he wouldn't make it to the big leagues. In reality, Karaff felt like he was a talent but not a sure-thing first-rounder. Clearly, every other team agreed. But after Pujols popped off earlier this year, it's best not to start any drama. So Karaff isn't gonna talk about Pujols, not a word about the guy who looks like he might walk off the high-def television at any moment. Not a word. Doesn't want to cause any problems. Well, you know, maybe a few words won't hurt. After all, signing the probable Hall of Famer is the highlight of his career. "I will say one thing," he says. "If there's anybody that can stand there and tell me truthfully this is what they thought he'd do, I would call them a liar to their face and never flinch." Karaff sits in his chair and watches Pujols watch the pitcher. "When he's going bad, he really floats to that front side," Karaff says. "That's what he did in high school." He ought to know. Karaff has spent his entire life around the game. For almost two decades, he coached Hickman Mills High in Kansas City. He worked as a scout for the Seattle Mariners and, starting in the mid-'90s, for the St. Louis Cardinals. He'd always been a Redbirds fan; he had his car stolen at the 1985 World Series and, instead of calling his wife, he bought new clothes at a discount store and went to the next game. Scouting for his favorite team was a dream job, one he took seriously. For 130 or so nights a year, he rated players. He went everywhere. Three years before he was fired, for instance, he was assigned Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, half of Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas. The highway was his home. His car logged more than 40,000 miles a year. Mostly, he charted people who'd never spend a day in the big leagues. Then there was this young man in Kansas City. Albert Pujols. He had obvious skills. The Cardinals' scouting form gave players a grade between two and eight, Karaff says, with each prospect getting a present and future score in each category. A "five" is considered major-league average. "I probably made him a six hitter future," Karaff says, "but he probably was a four hitter present." The rest, of course, is history. Though he slipped to the 13th round of the 1999 draft, Pujols made it to the bigs in 2001, won Rookie of the Year and now has 250 home runs in just six seasons. He is arguably the most feared hitter in baseball. He's a superstar. And Karaff? He was fired in 2003. The team decided to go in a different direction, and there was a massive shakeup in the scouting department. Lots of people were left to wonder what they might have done better. Karaff figured he should have sold his players harder. "That was probably a weak point of mine," he says. "I sold them on paper, but I don't think I did a good job talking them up. Until the end. If I'm gonna struggle or if I've got a chance to lose my job, I'm gonna put 'em on the line. That's what they want you to do." Three years later, the wound is still fresh -- seemingly more so for his wife, Jannette, than for him. He's explaining his release, and the personalities involved, and he's doing it with kid gloves. She's sitting nearby, practically simmering. "Dave's just being nice," she says. "Jannette," he says, "just let it go, honey." "Well, I …," she begins. "Let it go," he says. He had to let it go. He needed to find a job that offered benefits. Hence the grocery stocking. But there are certainly days he wishes he had his old life back. "I miss it all," he says. "I really do. It's the most enjoyable job I've ever had." The things he did as a scout make him proud, even if it didn't end like he wanted it to. That makes Pujols' recent public comments cut deep. The slugger, for instance, told The Kansas City Star: "He said I wasn't going to make the big leagues. That's why he got fired." He told USA Today : "How can you draft a guy and say you don't know if he's going to make the big leagues? All of a sudden, the next year (I'm) in the big leagues, and he wants to take all the credit." That burned up Karaff's family, who felt like a superstar multi-millionaire was picking on a guy who stocks shelves at Wal-Mart. They say Karaff isn't trying to take any credit. "I was heartbroken for Dave because I didn't think it was fair," Jannette says. Losing his dream job was bad, but being called out by the player he once championed to his organization is worse. "I think everything that happened with Albert hurt more," he says. Still, they are Cardinals fans. Both lean toward the television as their team holds onto a lead. Pujols comes to the plate. Jannette Karaff almost jumps out of her chair. They're just fans now, glued to the television. "Come on, Pujols," she yells. "Do something!" 球探人生 發掘普吼獅的 Dave Karaff,當年(1999)覺得普吼獅差不多就是一般的打者 以2分至8分評價的話,5分是大聯盟平均,他認為普吼獅只有4分,可能可以長到6分 Karaff除了是球探,也是紅鳥的球迷,但在普吼獅拿到新人王隔兩年後就被紅鳥炒了 普吼獅似乎對 Karaff不認為他能上大聯盟蠻不爽的.. 這是2006時的報導,後來有沒有續集就不知道了.. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 203.70.89.23

02/11 17:30, , 1F
被球探報告婊了XD
02/11 17:30, 1F

02/11 17:32, , 2F
為什麼MLB都喜歡用2~8分作評價標準? 一般不是1~10?
02/11 17:32, 2F

02/11 17:34, , 3F
你的一般不代表他們的一般
02/11 17:34, 3F

02/11 17:36, , 4F
因為Pujols還沒出現,所以沒有10分
02/11 17:36, 4F

02/11 17:42, , 5F
大概沒塞紅包給球碳
02/11 17:42, 5F

02/11 17:43, , 6F
剛去找了一下那年選秀 18輪還有一隻 Lyle Overbay
02/11 17:43, 6F

02/11 17:45, , 7F
棒球太難所以很難估....比他前面的大概有400個啊....
02/11 17:45, 7F

02/11 17:45, , 8F
其他AS等級的幾乎都前幾輪
02/11 17:45, 8F

02/11 17:51, , 9F
其實仔細想想 20-80挺符合常態分配概念的@@
02/11 17:51, 9F

02/11 17:51, , 10F
如果平均50 標準差10的話
02/11 17:51, 10F

02/11 17:51, , 11F
Jake Peavy順位比普神還低阿
02/11 17:51, 11F

02/11 17:52, , 12F
Piazza的故事雖然已經講過太多次了 但是那個才是經典
02/11 17:52, 12F

02/11 17:52, , 13F
那是一個後無來者的順位....
02/11 17:52, 13F

02/11 17:58, , 14F
62輪 1389順位XD
02/11 17:58, 14F

02/11 17:59, , 15F
球探?? 科科...
02/11 17:59, 15F

02/11 18:02, , 16F
那年選秀我又找到一隻強投Rich Harden 38輪 1145位
02/11 18:02, 16F

02/11 18:03, , 17F
Adam LaRoche 42rd 1254
02/11 18:03, 17F

02/11 18:05, , 18F
這兩個人居然沒出賽過all star 真神奇~~~
02/11 18:05, 18F

02/11 18:06, , 19F
還有更糟的,Bruce Sutter是non draft FA
02/11 18:06, 19F

02/11 18:07, , 20F
Adam LaRoche、Rich Harden不是在那年選秀進職棒,不能算
02/11 18:07, 20F

02/11 18:08, , 21F
Rich Harden;00年美國職棒奧克蘭運動家隊第17輪第510順位
02/11 18:08, 21F

02/11 18:10, , 22F
是因為1999簽約金太少 不爽進 才延到2000?
02/11 18:10, 22F

02/11 18:12, , 23F
老蘇有被選..只是跑去年1年大學
02/11 18:12, 23F

02/11 18:24, , 24F
Heath Bell 1997 69th round 1998 undrafted FA
02/11 18:24, 24F

02/11 19:36, , 25F
我笑了哈哈
02/11 19:36, 25F

02/12 01:56, , 26F
我猜2-8 scale 是因為在某個程度以上或以下再去分也沒意義
02/12 01:56, 26F

02/12 02:01, , 27F
比如說不管你某方面算是大乙水準或是普通甲組水準
02/12 02:01, 27F

02/12 02:01, , 28F
對球探而言這都是一樣的: 砍掉重練吧 <- 2 分
02/12 02:01, 28F

02/12 02:02, , 29F
不過這只是我的猜測啦
02/12 02:02, 29F
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