[外電] 球界裡最超額的球員

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Baseball's Most Overpaid Players Tom Van Riper, 04.26.11, 12:30 PM EDT Cardinals pitcher Kyle Lohse and Astros outfielder Carlos Lee provided the least bang for the buck in 2010. 在2010年,紅雀投手Kyle Lohse以及太空人外野手Carlos Lee貢獻最少產值。 With a 3-1 record and a 2.01 Earned Run Average through his first four starts of 2011, St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Kyle Lohse is off to a promising start. It's the least the Cards could expect after agent Scott Boras hoodwinked them into a four-year, $41 million contract extension for Lohse after the 2008 season despite a career record of 63-74. In 2010 Lohse accomplished what few would have believed possible: He beat out the likes of Oliver Perez, A.J. Burnett, Kevin Millwood, Josh Beckett and Javier Vasquez for the title of baseball's most overpaid pitcher. Even with all the big money busts on the mound in 2010, Lohse's 6.55 earned run average, 4-8 record and 129 hits allowed in 92 innings, all while raking in close to $9 million, earns him the booby prize. 2011開季,四次先發,戰績3勝1敗,防禦率2.01的聖路易紅雀投手Kyle Lohse,有了一個 前途似錦的開端,至少目前紅雀可以感到欣慰。但在之前,2008時,Lohse 生涯63勝74敗 ,因此經紀人Scott Boras趁機拐了紅雀一張4年4100萬的延長合約。 2010時,Lohse達成絕大部分人都不可思議的鳥事:他打敗Oliver Perez,A.J. Burnett, Kevin Millwood,Josh Beckett,Javier Vasquez 這些球員,榮登薪水小偷霸主。當時紅 雀投資他的這筆大錢幾乎在投手丘上燒光了,2010年Lohse的成績是ERA 6.55,4勝8敗,只 投92局,被敲了129支安打,這種產值低於他實際被給付的年薪約 900萬,因此也讓他贏到 小偷霸主的稱號。 To determine the game's most overpaid players we compared each player's salary in 2010 to his production, measured by the Value over Replacement Player score put out at the end of the season by Baseball Prospectus. The VORP score uses myriad stats to measure a player's productivity over and above that of a minimum salaried rookie. To keep things fair, we separated players by service class, the better to avoid directly comparing younger players to veterans who have passed the six-year free agent threshold and whose salaries generally reside in a different bracket. So we measured each player's production vs. salary against only those in his service class. Others leading their respective positions around the diamond on the all-overpaid list: -Yankee infielders Alex Rodriguez ($32 million; 36.1 VORP) and Derek Jeter ($22.5 million; 27.5 VORP), both of whom had solid years but didn't merit their outsized pay. -Astros outfielder Carlos Lee ($18.5 million; 1.3 VORP, who slumped to a career-low on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS). - Brewers reliever Trevor Hoffman ($7.5 million; -4.2 VORP), who got battered around to the tune of a 5.89 ERA in his last year. 為了決定哪些是超額球員,我們比較了2010每個球員的成績跟薪水,並藉由 Baseball Prospectus 在每季結束所提供的VORP分數做出結論。VORP分數是 使用大量統計數據,衡量一般球員產值與最低薪菜鳥的不同。為了公平,我 們會區分球員層級,以避免年紀較輕的球員和一般拿到FA且收入不同的球員 做比較。所以我們只衡量,同層級裡每位球員成績與薪水的對比,在每個守 備位置上薪水超額領先的球員名單如下: 洋基內野手: Alex Rodriguez ($32 million; 36.1 VORP) Derek Jeter ($22.5 million; 27.5 VORP) 兩者去年表現都不錯,但領的過多。 太空人外野手: Carlos Lee ($18.5 million; 1.3 VORP) 去年鳥掉,打了生涯最低的OPS 釀酒人中繼投手: Trevor Hoffman ($7.5 million; -4.2 VORP) 去年被打爆,在他生涯最後一年留下不好看的ERA 5.89 。 http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/26/most-overpaid-baseball-players.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2010超額球員全部位置如下: POS Player Team Salary VORP Overpaid 1B Todd Helton COL $16.6M 4.6 $13.7M 2B Luis Castillo NYM $ 6.0M -2.2 $ 6.8M SS Derek Jeter NYY $22.5M 27.3 $ 7.5M 3B Alex Rodriguez NYY $32.0M 36.1 $12.3M OF Carlos Lee HOU $18.5M 1.3 $17.4M OF Carlos Beltran NYM $18.5M 10.5 $12.5M OF Aaron Rowand SFG $12.0M -1.6 $12.5M C Gerald Laird DET $ 4.0M -10.1 $ 9.0M SP Kyle Lohse STL $ 8.8M -22.0 $20.0M RP Trevor Hoffman MIL $ 7.5M -4.2 $ 9.3M http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/26/most-overpaid-baseball-players_slide.html -- 因為這篇文章是4/26,所以目前成績方面可能有點不同 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.60.223.108

05/15 11:14, , 1F
領8.8M說Overpaid20.0M...這算法匪夷所思阿
05/15 11:14, 1F
算法是VORP每1分該拿 $534,318,大概是因為負的才算成這樣 ※ 編輯: poplc 來自: 61.60.223.108 (05/15 11:19)

05/15 11:21, , 2F
意思是貢獻是負值吧!
05/15 11:21, 2F

05/15 11:26, , 3F
意思是他應該要自己付費11.2M才能上場XD
05/15 11:26, 3F

05/15 11:30, , 4F
沒差吧 這是比去年的 跟目前成績沒影響
05/15 11:30, 4F

05/15 12:04, , 5F
怎麼沒Zito呢?真驚訝
05/15 12:04, 5F

05/15 12:13, , 6F
zito至少也吃了快200局
05/15 12:13, 6F

05/15 12:21, , 7F
ZITO 9W 14L 199IP ERA4.15 投的不差 只是巨人打線..
05/15 12:21, 7F

05/15 12:23, , 8F
zito至少有4.5號的水準 跟 吃局數能看 只是跟其簽約當初
05/15 12:23, 8F

05/15 12:24, , 9F
有落差就是...
05/15 12:24, 9F

05/15 12:28, , 10F
有的不能只看帳面成績…崔夫曼是精神指標吧XDD
05/15 12:28, 10F

05/15 12:36, , 11F
負值就想成連投資其他球員的錢都白花了
05/15 12:36, 11F

05/15 12:52, , 12F
ZITO 2010不差阿
05/15 12:52, 12F

05/15 12:52, , 13F
可不可以列出多依點呢??
05/15 12:52, 13F

05/15 12:53, , 14F
沒有Wells...
05/15 12:53, 14F

05/15 13:00, , 15F
今年的就可能會有Wells了...(看他目前打成這樣...)
05/15 13:00, 15F

05/15 13:04, , 16F
今年再加一台發球機......
05/15 13:04, 16F

05/15 13:05, , 17F
Jeter去年表現不錯?? 好吧 今年更差就是了
05/15 13:05, 17F

05/15 13:08, , 18F
Jeter去年打擊率才0.26 比皇家整隊還低
05/15 13:08, 18F

05/15 13:08, , 19F
Overpaid>Salary 意思說他們應該給球團薪水? @@
05/15 13:08, 19F

05/15 13:21, , 20F
不過這沒考慮市場價值 像Jeter這種薪水說不定沒賠
05/15 13:21, 20F

05/15 13:35, , 21F
A-Rod不管打怎樣應該都是OVERPAY最多的 XD
05/15 13:35, 21F

05/15 14:12, , 22F
JETER去年OPS不到0.7還0.6
05/15 14:12, 22F

05/15 14:24, , 23F
Cliff Lee表示:
05/15 14:24, 23F

05/15 14:34, , 24F
真眼淚是沒看完全文嗎? A-Rod連前3名都排不上
05/15 14:34, 24F

05/15 15:12, , 25F
Cliff Lee有怎麼樣嗎?
05/15 15:12, 25F

05/15 16:33, , 26F
Jeter去年AVG是0.27喔
05/15 16:33, 26F

05/15 16:44, , 27F
GMJ勒?Wells.. 天使那些錢可以再簽兩個ACE...
05/15 16:44, 27F

05/15 17:49, , 28F
Rowand居然可以領12M...
05/15 17:49, 28F

05/15 19:04, , 29F
Wells是今年目前比較慘一點...去年還好吧
05/15 19:04, 29F

05/15 21:34, , 30F
有神人要生一張哪個GM最會簽overpaid的圖表來給拜一下嗎?
05/15 21:34, 30F

05/15 21:55, , 31F
所以如果郭台銘想打球的話一年付個20M也可以天天先發XD
05/15 21:55, 31F

05/16 00:29, , 32F
有兩名以上的球隊都在NY....
05/16 00:29, 32F
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