Re: [討論] What's wrong with Ichiro?
看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者SilverBullet (C'est la vi)時間14年前 (2011/07/20 14:50)推噓11(11推 0噓 26→)留言37則, 16人參與討論串2/2 (看更多)
※ 引述《tatsumi2512 (Ben)》之銘言:
個人認為球員隨著年紀衰退是正常現象,但換到其他隊或許比留在西雅圖更有
機會減緩退化狀態。從近兩三年來看,水手訓練系統或主場風水的問題比較大
,打擊不佳的責任恐怕主要不在球員身上...。
先列出本季代表水手出賽最多的幾位老球員:
黑灰色為較前一年退步,黃色為進步幅度較大者,紅色為近三年最佳成績
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Ichiro Suzuki 2011 418 0.285 -0.89 -2.99 +0.33 +0.54 +1.52
2010 732 0.353 -0.05 +0.47 +1.42 -0.10 +1.22
2009 678 0.384 +1.23 +0.30 +1.24 +3.06 +0.39
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Brendan Ryan 2011 335 0.298 -0.88 -0.06 -3.92 +1.83 -4.29
(Cardinals) 2010 486 0.253 -1.62 -0.59 -5.65 -2.74 +1.44
(Cardinals) 2009 429 0.332 0.00 -0.31 -2.24 +0.44 +1.93
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Miguel Olivo 2011 304 0.258 -1.23 -1.29 -2.43 -2.07 +1.19
(Rockies) 2010 427 0.346 -0.43 +0.52 +4.02 -1.69 +0.79
(Royals) 2009 416 0.306 +0.55 -1.45 +2.78 +0.60 -1.35
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Chone Figgins 2011 289 0.209 -1.68 -2.62 -2.15 -1.27 -3.46
2010 702 0.314 -0.79 -0.78 +0.58 -0.97 -1.45
(Angels) 2009 729 0.356 +0.99 +0.86 +0.34 -0.56 -0.09
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Adam Kennedy 2011 277 0.276 -0.87 -0.45 -0.88 -1.58 -0.41
(Nationals) 2010 389 0.274 -0.21 -0.65 -3.27 +3.34 -1.59
(Athletics) 2009 587 0.326 +0.72 -2.37 -1.82 -0.98 +1.18
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Jack Cust 2011 253 0.315 -0.98 -1.79 +1.82 -0.31 +0.72
(Athletics) 2010 425 0.387 +1.27 -1.54 -0.77 -0.95 +2.25
(Athletics) 2009 612 0.319 +0.91 -0.50 +0.60 -0.23 -2.29
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
F.Gutierrez 2011 171 0.214 -2.99 -3.72 -3.33 -0.19 +1.29
2010 629 0.297 -0.66 -0.20 -1.67 +0.33 -1.48
2009 629 0.333 +0.61 +0.88 +1.84 -3.62 -1.65
可以明顯發現,除了Brendan Ryan之外幾乎是全面性衰退,Gutierrez、一朗
、腿姬等三位都是呈現"持續"退步,似乎在水手隊待得越久衰退越嚴重,其他
幾個近一兩年才轉進來的球員,今年表現也多半不如去年,一般只要靠兩種球
路就能夠把水手隊搞定了!
比較大聯盟三十支球隊面對不同球路的表現狀況,水手多半都是末段班:
wFB/c wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C wSF/C wKN/C
Mariners -1.27 -1.54 -1.17 -0.34 +0.06 +2.57 -0.90
(30) (28) (25) (17) (7) (1) (15)
而本季戰績一度還能保持在美聯西區前二名,個人認為本季新拉上來的幾個小
將貢獻很大,但今年常常出場的這些年輕人,實在很為他們的前途感到憂心...
依照上面諸位老大哥的趨勢,這些優異的天份恐怕很難有機會發揮到100%
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Justin Smoak 2011 358 0.253 +0.05 +0.36 +0.39 -2.48 +0.50
Carlos Peguero 2011 155 0.262 -2.68 -0.43 -0.63 +4.77 -2.15
Dustin Ackley 2011 93 0.294 -0.99 -2.25 +2.04 +5.45 +13.94
下面幾位是去年死屍打線的殭屍們,今年脫離水手隊之後的成績。
黑灰色為較前一年退步,黃色為進步幅度較大者,紅色為近三年最佳
沉淪太久一蹶不振組:
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Jose Lopez (COL/FLA) 2011 160 0.200 -2.33 -1.89 -4.16 -1.58 -2.42
(Mariners) 2010 622 0.254 -2.37 -1.45 +2.74 -1.86 -2.06
(Mariners) 2009 653 0.270 +0.03 -0.28 -1.63 -2.11 -0.86
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
R. Branyan (ARI/LAA) 2011 125 0.260 -1.62 -3.53 +1.82 +1.34 -1.20
(CLE/SEA) 2010 428 0.288 +0.38 +0.36 +2.78 +1.59 -1.35
(Mariners) 2009 505 0.300 +1.23 +0.12 -1.77 +5.34 -3.98
脫離苦海死屍復活組:
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Casey Kotchman (TB) 2011 290 0.365 +0.41 +2.04 +4.68 +5.06 -0.90
(Mariners) 2010 457 0.229 -1.66 -0.58 -2.52 -1.74 +0.64
(ATL/BOS) 2009 431 0.283 +1.15 -2.29 -1.47 -0.24 -1.44
PA BAPIP wFB/C wSL/C wCT/C wCB/C wCH/C
Josh Wilson (ARI/MIL)2011 53 0.351 +0.76 -3.81 +23.05 +11.84 -4.20
(Mariners) 2010 388 0.280 -1.14 -3.82 -0.38 -0.54 -0.18
(ARI/SD/SEA) 2009 211 0.269 -1.91 +0.62 -1.41 -0.22 -1.10
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看來水手隊的打擊教練似乎時常請假....
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