Re: [心得] Andy Gray的文章

看板ManUtd作者uranusjr (←這人是超級笨蛋)時間21年前 (2003/09/23 01:13)推噓8(8推 0噓 0→)

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It would be nice to sit here and defend Arsenal and say they were within their rights, the way they behaved against Manchester United - but I can't… 若能作個沒事人，而說阿森納對曼聯的行為沒有不當，會是很好的─但我辦不到。 It's very difficult to have any sympathy for their behaviour at certain moments during the game and certainly on the final whistle as they celebrated a point. It was un-called for and you simply can't defend the indefensible. 他們在比賽中某些時候以及哨聲響起後的行為很難讓人諒解。再怎麼會說，黑馬也變不成白馬。 And it was not just the rounding on Ruud van Nistelrooy at the end. I am also talking about what happened after Patrick Vieira was sent off and straight after the Dutchman's penalty miss. I do have some sympathy for Vieira because his first booking was for his only three fouls in the game and none of them were serious, but once he kicked out at Van Nistelrooy, Steve Bennett had no option but to send him off. 我並不只是針對他們在賽後對范尼斯特魯伊的行為，而還包括當維耶拉被判罰離場後，以及在范尼漏失了點球後發生的事情。我是有點同情維耶拉，因為他第一次的被判牌僅是為了他在賽場上三個不甚嚴重的犯規；然而當他踢向范尼斯特魯伊時，主裁判班奈特別無選擇，只能將他罰下場。 Even if he didn't make contact, there is the word 'intent' in the rules, which makes the decision a right one. 雖然他並沒有碰觸到對方，然而規則裡有的「意圖」二字解釋了裁判的決定是正確的。 And I don't think for a moment that van Nistlerooy has done anything to be ashamed of. He didn't go to ground as if he had been caught, all he did was step back and look around in amazement at Patrick's reaction. I think he was genuinely surprised by it and I thought he came out of the whole episode after the game with a great deal of credit for refusing to react. 我也不認為當時范尼有任何不對的行為。他在當時並沒有倒地不起，而僅是向後退，對於派崔克(維耶拉)的行為驚訝不已。我認為他應該是真的被嚇到了，而他退場時的動作也說明他不願意回應的想法。 You expect the odd remark when you miss a penalty in such a big game as van Nistelrooy got, but what happened at the final whistle was absolutely un-called for Players with the experience of Martin Keown, Ray Parlour and Lauren should know better - especially Keown. I played in the same team as Martin when he was a kid at Aston Villa and he is aggressive and he does get involved. He is everything Arsene Wenger wants him to be and to an extent, needed him to be given their form going into the Old Trafford game, but this time he over-stepped the mark. 當范尼在大比賽中漏失了一個這樣重要點球後，你可以想像的到會有什麼事情發生在他身上，但在比賽哨音響起後發生的事件對於基翁、帕羅爾以及勞倫都是不該有的─尤其是基翁，他們應該不是這樣狀況外的人才是。當基翁年輕還待在亞斯頓維拉時，我與他同踢過球，他很積極，也很出色。他在任何方面都是亞森‧溫格想要的球員，並且進一步說，當在老特拉福球場出賽時需要他的存在，但是這一次他辜負了這個期盼。 The big question is what action will be taken. I know a lot of people are calling for a points deduction, but I don't think it merited that. The FA have three options, as I see it: they can do nothing; charge Arsenal as team, or charge individuals with various offences, which will act in the same manner as red cards. I think the latter is the the course they will take and for the good of the game, I hope they do it sooner rather than later, because it is sad that it happened and it is sad that when the two best teams in the country meet, all we are talking about is indiscipline. 重要的是必須對這個事件有所處置。據我所知很多人要求要罰阿森納對的積分，但我並不認為事情有如此嚴重。就我所見 FA 有三種選擇：他們可以處之不理，或者可以處罰阿森納隊，或懲罰每個隊員在當時的不同行為，如同比賽中紅牌的處分。我認為他們會採取最後者，而為了維持球賽的進行，我希望他們能盡快做出處置，因這種事情的發生是很令人遺憾的，而若當這兩支最佳球隊在國內再度交手時，大家談論的總是不守紀律，那將會更令人遺憾。 People involved with Arsenal, including ex-players and supporters, have found it impossible to defend what we saw. They clearly have a disciplinary problem and I just can't see how Arsene Wenger can claim the whole world is against his side after their actions after the whistle at Old Trafford. 與阿森納有關的人們，不論名宿或支持者，都發現他們無法解釋為他們所見的事件。很明顯有紀律上的問題，我也不知道亞森‧溫格這一次要怎麼說明為何對於這次事件，全世界都反對他的立場。 I love Andy Grey (the voice of him...oh what a gentleman) -- "版太乾了給我滾下站去啊!!" / | ○ | ＞─○ >__<" ╭批╯*kick* | \\ /¯ | <---ptt 在線分格線 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.csie.ntu.edu.tw) ◆ From: 218.167.162.23