Re: Hector Noesi May Be Better Than We Realize

看板Mariners作者 (碧潭的逃生者)時間13年前 (2012/01/19 23:51), 編輯推噓11(11020)
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找了一些國外Blog對於他的評價,大家就看看吧。 我到現在還是不喜歡這筆交易,但是既然已經成真,我們能作的也只 有多瞭解我們到底拿到了什麼貨。 Jesus Mortero應該不用多介紹, 要看的只是他打不打得出來而已;Hector Noesi到底是個什麼樣的角 色,或許多看一些介紹會更加的清楚。 http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/2011/12/watch-out-for-hector-noesi-36780 (摘錄於以上網址)這篇是去年12月的文章,還滿新的。 However, reports of his performance this offseason in the Liga de Beisbol Dominicano should perhaps make Phil Hughes and AJ Burnett start to watch their backs. According to tweets from David of Yankee Source, recent reports had Noesi sitting consistently 93-95 with his fastball as a starter in the DR, and even topping out at 96-97 on occasion. This velocity would be faster than what he was averaging out of the bullpen this year, so if this jump is sustainable then we could all be in for a pleasant surprise. To my knowledge, Noesi has never shown that type of velocity at any point in his career, especially as a starter, so seeing an uptick like that is certainly encouraging. He’s certainly young enough that a mechanical tweak or better conditioning could contribute to better velocity. It may also be worthy of some skepticism, (in this day in age, it’s hard to avoid fears of illegal Dominican milkshakes or stem cells from Bartolo Colon‘s corpulent caboose, especially because Noesi already had a 50-game PED suspension in the minors). Additionally, it’s easy to be skeptical of velocity readings if you’re not sure about the reliability of the radar gun involved, and you wonder if Noesi was sacrificing command for heat. The numbers don’t really support the idea that Noesi is selling out control for velocity, as so far in the DR he is 3-1 with a 2.22 ERA, 45 strikeouts in 56 1/3 innings, and 45 strikeouts against 22 walks. The level of competition in the DR is not major league caliber (though there are plenty of quality minor leaguers and some major leaguers too), but Noesi has certainly done well against the competition he is facing. http://0rz.tw/XZ89m 上面這一篇是去年七月的文章,寫得不長。直接貼在下面。 Hector Noesi, a 24 year old right handed relief pitcher with a plus fastball, has the potential to have a successful major league career. His overall mechanics are good and throws with most of his body instead of just using his arm. Even though he has good hip rotation, he could help himself with a better follow through. By bringing his right elbow past his left knee, Hector would be be more consistent with his control and hitting his target. This is commonly called throwing "shoulder to shoulder"... which really can provide pinpoint accuracy IF the pitcher knows how to focus on his target. As an extra benefit, this type of follow through, also known as "bending their back", helps pitchers have greater leverage on their breaking pitches. Right now, he's finishing a little high (upright) in his follow through and this in turn elevates his pitches or causes them to be up in the zone...not a good place to pitch. Last note concerns his time to the plate with runners on. He's been a little slow, up to 1.5, because he's still got a bit of a desire to get his knee up to a power position during his delivery in the stretch position. Hopefully, he can learn a slide step and bring his time to 1.32 or better with runners on. He's young enough to learn and should only get better with experience. http://0rz.tw/uFOyz 去年六月的文章,很長,可以點進去看。 基本上都盡量找去年年中以後的文章為主,大家就看看當參考吧! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.62.232

01/20 00:13, , 1F
如同碧潭大的觀點 至今還是覺得這筆做得覺得有點急了..
01/20 00:13, 1F

01/20 00:14, , 2F
因為今年條子跟天使的大動作,大家心知肚明我們的目標是三年
01/20 00:14, 2F

01/20 00:16, , 3F
不是嗎XD 還是Z老大怕別人覺得他沒有在做事 所以狗急跳牆?
01/20 00:16, 3F

01/20 00:16, , 4F
*三年後
01/20 00:16, 4F

01/20 08:27, , 5F
現在最怕三年之後又三年 三年之後又三年 都十年了老大= =
01/20 08:27, 5F

01/20 12:04, , 6F
只是說01年季初應該也是不期不待就是了(茶)
01/20 12:04, 6F

01/20 18:16, , 7F
左三年 右三年 前前後後又三年 XD
01/20 18:16, 7F

01/20 22:07, , 8F
不認同要看3年後,哪有人家一直補強我們就只能又躲起來3年
01/20 22:07, 8F

01/20 22:08, , 9F
的道理,要條子跟猴子一路強盛下去,那不就要一輩子陪公子
01/20 22:08, 9F

01/20 22:08, , 10F
哥打球了
01/20 22:08, 10F

01/21 13:39, , 11F
我意思是,與其這三年灑錢補洞跟條子天使硬拼、不如穩紮穩打
01/21 13:39, 11F

01/21 13:40, , 12F
提昇自己的深度,所以才說覺得這筆交易有點急了...
01/21 13:40, 12F

01/21 13:41, , 13F
怎麼看都覺得Jesus的風險比Pineda高@@
01/21 13:41, 13F

01/21 14:05, , 14F
會這樣覺得是因為小P已經證明給我們看過他絕對有2號
01/21 14:05, 14F

01/21 14:07, , 15F
的能力.而魔鐵駱則是證明了他"可能"有機會靠棒子站穩
01/21 14:07, 15F

01/21 14:08, , 16F
但是就使用度上來說投手的風險總是比野手大....
01/21 14:08, 16F

01/21 14:09, , 17F
另外要是等到魔鐵駱也和小P一樣打了半季也證明他"真的"
01/21 14:09, 17F

01/21 14:09, , 18F
可以靠棒子站穩,那我想到時候才要拿小P去交易他,對Z來
01/21 14:09, 18F

01/21 14:10, , 19F
說,更不好談了吧. 不過我也同意其他大大說的~
01/21 14:10, 19F

01/21 14:11, , 20F
不見得一定要去和洋基談.也不見得要這麼快交易小P
01/21 14:11, 20F

01/21 14:12, , 21F
我是認為,既然都交易了,那就好好期待魔鐵駱吧~
01/21 14:12, 21F

01/21 14:13, , 22F
我只希望他不要和正義小煙來我們家一樣跌跌撞撞的就好
01/21 14:13, 22F

01/21 14:26, , 23F
我講"風險"好像有點辭不達意 我只是很單純覺得 一個證明過
01/21 14:26, 23F

01/21 14:26, , 24F
一個沒有,那這種交易就不是我認為的"穩紮穩打"、而是一種賭
01/21 14:26, 24F

01/21 14:27, , 25F
博,在這個時間點,我只能說Z老大很敢賭...
01/21 14:27, 25F

01/21 14:35, , 26F
然後從投手養成風險較大這點反向思考 小P的完成度大家有目共
01/21 14:35, 26F

01/21 14:39, , 27F
睹,感覺有點像乳豬已經快烤好了,卻送到別人家換了一隻還沒
01/21 14:39, 27F

01/21 14:40, , 28F
宰的雞過來..
01/21 14:40, 28F

01/21 14:41, , 29F
(假定烤乳豬失敗機率>烤雞失敗的機率) 想不到比較適切的比喻
01/21 14:41, 29F

01/21 16:05, , 30F
說到烤乳豬我就懂了.....(你害我突然好餓啊=_=)
01/21 16:05, 30F

01/26 07:53, , 31F
Montero就算還沒烤好,也不至於還沒宰吧....
01/26 07:53, 31F
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