What Hammy to the Angels Means for the M's

看板Mariners作者Guillen時間12年前 (2012/12/15 02:49)推噓13(13推 0噓 25→)

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我覺得是許多篇護航文中，較為持平的一篇。文章又短又簡單，大家參考參考。 http://sodomojo.com/2012/12/13/what-hamilton-to-the-angels-means-for-the-ms/ JJ Keller I am sure all of you heard the news about Josh Hamilton agreeing to a 5 year, $125 million contract with the AL West rival Angels. This is bad news for not only the Hamilton-or-busters, but really for every Mariner fan. Even if you did not find Hamilton enticing, you cannot like seeing him sign with a rival, especially one who was already a very good team. Hamilton轉戰天使是個壞消息，不僅是對抱持著『給我漢米其餘免談』立場的球迷而言，基本上對所有水手球迷都是，天使現在如虎添翼。 I, personally, was somewhere in the middle. I was not all in on Josh as some were, but I did like him for the right price. I might have even given him the deal that LA did, but I have a feeling we would have had to beat that offer by quite a bit. Playing for an 89 win team with the likes of Albert Pujols and Mike Trout is a little more attractive than coming to a young team with a lot of question marks in a pitchers park. 我應該算是『中間選民』，沒那麼愛他但是能夠用好價格得到他也很棒，甚至我願意開給他天使開出的價碼，但天使是高富帥，我們要得到他得多出一點才行。 Now many of you may be thinking the Ms absolutely need to sign Nick Swisher or someone comparable so we can try to match what the Angels did, and I understand where you are coming from. But I strongly disagree. 現在許多球迷開始喊正妹Swisher非簽不可，但我不那麼想。 In my opinion, the Mariners have two options at this point. They can either sit tight and maybe make a few smaller additions such as Jason Kubel or Mike Morse to at least stay relevant, but not go after a big time free agent, or They can go all out and bring in 3-4 big time players like Swisher, Justin Upton, Michael Bourn and a pitcher. 在我看來水手現在有兩個方向可以做： 1) 不追FA，做一些例如 Kubel 或是 Morse 鳳還巢這類的小型補強。 2) 梭哈買下Swisher + Upton + Bourn + 一名投手。 Let me explain what some people may think of as crazy. Option one makes sense because they aren’t going to compete in this division, even if they bring in one big name bat like many hoped for. 3.5 – 4 WAR Nick Swisher does not get us anywhere but 3rd place at best. He probably never would have instantly brought the Ms to contention, but now there is almost no chance. No one or two players are going to be able to catch the Angels, at least for the next few years. That’s why it makes sense to stay put for now, and reassess next year or the year after. Then we can bring in a bat that will still be around when the Angels are old and the Ms have a chance to win. Bringing in Swisher on a 4-5 year deal when they won’t compete until the last two years of the deal, when Swisher is most likely no more than an average player, does not help. Wait it out, then make your big splash in 2014 or 2015. 水手根本就還沒有什麼競爭力，補一個WAR 3.5-4 的正妹，頂多只能把我們拉到第三名，只補一兩個好手，至少在未來幾年都沒辦法拉近我們跟天使的差距。所以繼續觀望的策略就變得有點道理了，晚點再補進一個可以長留到天使老去水兵奮起時的棒子。給正妹4-5 年約，然後等到水手有競爭力時，他已經變成一個普通人了，這對水手毫無幫助。等待，然後在14'或15'好好灑錢。 As for option two, it is the only chance the Ms have at competing in the next year or two. They are way behind the Angels now, and it would take multiple top players to stay with them. I’m talking signing Swisher, Bourn and Edwin Jackson, no matter what it takes. Trading for Upton no matter what it takes. Doing whatever is needed to get the players that will keep you in the hunt. Unfortunately, I think option one is much more likely for this team. 第二方案就是一步登天，不計一切代價拿到好幾個好球員。但不幸的是，第一方案比較有可能發生。 Ownership has not shown a huge desire to win, and I don’t expect that to change. 這句我就不翻了，高層甲賽。 I see Jack trading for a 2nd or 3rd tier guy like Mike Morse or Jason Kubel, and waiting the rest out. As hard as it is to admit, that may be the best option for this current Mariner team. 雖然很不想承認，但補進幾個次級品應該是目前最好的選擇。 ----- 個人意見：高層爛成這樣，什麼都喊假的，2014也不用想砸錢補強。很愛說天使之後會變老人戰隊，但人家就是願意花錢，漢米普神老到不行時還是願意花50M 把這兩隻按在板凳上，然後再花50M簽兩隻巨星，根本就沒有什麼『對水手來說可以一較高下的時機』，人家會一直保持在追不上的狀態。任天堂快把球隊賣一賣吧，沒錢花就只能玩沙。 JZ問題也很大，如果老闆不給錢，那就認真一點走光芒模式啊，每個層級的農場都顧好（現在除了三小強還有富蘭克林，其實根本就很荒蕪），好好找尋5-8M年薪的功能性球員，一開始可以去談LaRoche或是認真交易Morse，要補外野Ross 也不錯啊，結果跑去跟豪門湊熱鬧純粹浪費時間。結果現在我們得到些什麼？Bay，還有Boesch與Ibanez的乳摸，幹這些連次級品都稱不上好嗎？省錢有省錢的玩法，可能一百年都拿不到冠軍，但是還是有機會進季後賽啊，現在能摸個邊拿個外卡二大家就爽死了，總比現在這種沒盼望的鳥樣還要好吧？在我看來，水手今年真正的補強是補進休士頓太空人。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 71.227.175.76

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