Fw: [外電] 水手總管Dipoto到底是做的好還是不好?

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板 #1PgHXmNH ] 作者: pneumo (超☆冒險蓋) 看板: MLB 標題: [外電] 水手總管Dipoto到底是做的好還是不好? 時間: Fri Sep 1 16:20:58 2017 來源: The Seattle Times 網址: http://tinyurl.com/y9goyz65 Mariners’ roster has changed under Jerry Dipoto, but is it better? 水手總管Dipoto到底是做的好還是不好? He trades incessantly, relentlessly — perhaps even obsessively. 他不停地交易，冷血的地交易--甚至是執念般地交易。 In the past 23 months, he has made more deals than anyone in Major League Baseball. 在過去23個月裡，他交易的數量比大聯盟裡面的任何一個總管都要來的多。 Nearly two years after becoming the Mariners’ general manager, Jerry Dipoto remains the game’s most entertaining executive. 在成為西雅圖水手總管近兩年，Jerry Dipoto成為聯盟最有娛樂性的執行者。 One question, though: Has he actually made this team better? 但是，有個問題: 他有把水手隊變得比較好嗎? It’s a fair query given how the M’s just lost their fifth consecutive game and sit at 66-68 for the season. And it’s especially fair given how that defeat came on the same day as another Dipoto trade. 在水手隊連輸五場，戰績變成66-68後，大家有這個問題一點都不過分，更何況那是在 Dipoto又完成一場交易的同一天發生，有這樣的問題一點都不過份。 Hours before the Orioles’ 8-7 win over the M’s on Wednesday, Seattle acquired right-handed starting pitcher Mike Leake, $17 million and international bonus-pool money from St. Louis for minor-league infielder Rayder Ascanio. Lots of moving parts on that deal — but the needle wasn’t one of them. 在西雅圖星期三7-8輸給金鶯後，西雅圖水手從紅雀隊拿到右投先發Mike Leake，拿到了 1700萬鎂的補償，以及國際簽約金，水手把小聯盟內野手Rayder Ascanio交易到紅雀。很多的球員跟細節在這場交易發生，但是卻沒有拿到需要的。 In Leake — who will be under club control through 2021 — Seattle gets a starter that epitomizes average. The 29-year-old has a 4.02 career ERA and was at 4.21 this season before the Cardinals shipped him and his $55 million contract out. 在Leake的交易: 水手球團擁有他的合約到2021年，有個平均水準的先發，Leake現在29歲，生涯ERA4.02，在紅雀的這年ERA是4.21，與紅雀的原合約總額有5500萬。 So will it pay off for the M’s? Well, based on the trades Dipoto has made since he got here, the answer is as simple as heads or tails. 這交易對水手來說划算嗎? 呃，從Dipoto來到西雅圖所做的交易結果來看，答案大概會是跟猜硬幣正反面的機率差不多。 Take a move such as dealing pitcher Nate Karns for Jarrod Dyson, and it’s hard to think Seattle didn’t win. Injuries have limited Karns to just eight starts this season, and Dyson has dominated the outfield and base paths for Seattle, racking up a 2.2 WAR in the process. 就拿把Nate Karns換Jarrod Dyson這筆交易來說好了，很難不說這筆交易西雅圖有賺到。 Karns有傷，本季只投了8場先發；Dyson在外野表現傑出，WAR有2.2。 But then you look at how the Mariners got Karns in the first place — trading Logan Morrison, Brad Miller and Danny Farquahar for him, C.J. Riefenhauser and Boog Powell last year — and it doesn’t look so productive. 但是若去看去年水手怎麼拿到Karns的--他們把Logan Morrison，Brad Miller，跟Danny Farquahar換走，拿回Karns, CJ Riefenhauser跟Boog Powell--這筆交易看起來就不怎樣了。 Morrison has 32 home runs for the Rays this year. Miller had 30 for them last year (although his numbers are way down this season). Riefenhauser, Powell and Karns haven’t done much of anything. Morrison今年在Rays扛了32支HR，Miller去年也扛了30隻(今年數據下滑)；換來的 Riefenhauser，Powell跟Karns就沒啥表現可言。 We can play this game for a while. 這個猜硬幣的遊戲還可以繼續玩下去。 Ben Gamel? Great pick-up by Dipoto. He was leading the AL in batting average at one point this year and was acquired for a pair of low-end pitching prospects. Ben Gamel? 這個Dipoto換的不錯，今年一度是美聯聯盟打擊率第一，是用兩個低階潛力投手換來的。 Chris Taylor? Terrible give-away by Dipoto. The infielder has a 4.4 WAR for the Dodgers this year — second-best on the team — and was traded for pitcher Zach Lee, whom the Mariners waived in December. Chris Taylor? Dipoto把他換走真的是太糟糕了。他今年在道奇內野，WAR是4.4，在道奇球隊排第二；西雅圖那時換來Zach Lee，水手12月的時候就把他釋出了。 Acquiring first baseman Yonder Alonso for Powell was a buy-low move that has paid dividends for the Mariners. Trading away pitcher Mike Montgomery for Daniel Vogelbach — who has a minus-0.4 WAR in his seven games this season — has not. 把Powell換走，換到Yonder Alonso算是一個逢低買進的出手，結果也算是收穫頗豐；但是把投手Mike Montgomery換走，換到Daniel Vogelback--本季七場比賽，WAR-0.4--就是賠個一屁股的買賣。 As far as Dipoto’s most significant trade to date? The one that moved Taijuan Walker and Ketel Marte to the Diamondbacks for Jean Segura and Mitch Haniger? Even that one is up for debate. 所以，到目前為止，Dipoto最重要的交易是哪樁? 把Taijuan Walker跟Ketel Marte換到 Diamondback，拿到Jean Segura跟Mitch Haniger這筆? 即使這筆都還有待商榷。 Segura, who gave Seattle a shortstop and leadoff man in one fell swoop, is hitting .299 this season — good for 10th in the American League. But Walker has logged more than 126 innings and has a 3.55 ERA. Segura，水手的游擊跟開路先鋒，本季打擊率.299，美聯排名第十；換出去的Walker則是投了126局，ERA3.55。 Haniger exploded out of the gate but has struggled since returning from injury. Marte has played well since returning from the disabled list. Haniger一開始有爆發，但是在受傷回來後就陷入掙扎；換出去的Marte則是在從DL移出後表現不錯。 The combined WAR for Segura and Haniger this season is 3.3. The combined WAR for Walker and Marte is 3.6. Segura跟Haniger的合併WAR本季是3.3，Walker跟Marte則是3.6。 Of course, evaluating trades based on one season isn’t fair. Dipoto has made a concerted effort to acquire players he can control for years to come. But are those players going to produce? 當然，用一季的交易來評估是不公平的。Dipoto用了各式各樣的努力去找到球員，可以確保幾年內的輪值無虞。但是，到底這些球員的表現會不會好呢? Plenty of Dipoto’s decisions are worthy of praise. He never traded the ageless Nelson Cruz. He has gotten solid production from Guillermo Heredia. And his team (barely) remains in the wild-card picture despite a slew of injuries. 很多Dipoto的決定還是值得稱許的，像是他從未交易不老的Nelson Cruz，Guillermo Heredia的表現穩定，水手隊在有些傷兵的狀況下，仍然(機率很低)在外卡的競爭行列內。 But he also has made a series of deals (Seth Smith for Yovanni Gallardo, Tyler O’Neill for Marco Gonzales) that seemed to serve quantity more than quality. 但是他做的某些決定(像是Seth Smith<->Yovanni Gallardo, Tyler O'Neill<->Marco Gonzales)，看起來就像是重量不重質。 Just before the trade deadline, former Fox Sports baseball writer Ken Rosenthal quoted an anonymous executive, who said of Dipoto: “I’ve never gotten it. It feels like he has made 348 trades to turn a .500 team into a .500 team.” 在交易大限之前，前福斯運動棒球記者Ken Rosenthal引述一個不具名的球團高層，說到 Dipoto，「我實在搞不懂，看起來Dipoto像是做了348樁交易，然後把一個五成勝率的球隊變成還是只有五成勝率的球隊。」 Given that the Mariners finished 10 games better in 2016 than they did in 2015, this seemed unfair at the time. Now? I don’t know. 水手在2016比2015多贏了10場，這樣說Dipoto就不公平。那現在呢? 那就不知道了。 Given its injury-prone rotation, Seattle’s starting pitching doesn’t necessarily stand to get much better next year. 看著這麼容易受傷的先發輪值，能保證水手的先發投手群明年一定會投的比今年好嗎? And with Cruz and Robinson Cano getting a little more banged up each season, the offense might take a dip as well. 而打擊方面，Cruz跟Cano每年都逐步耗損，明年的打擊能力可能也會下降。 An endless list of transactions can tell us exactly what Dipoto has done. But do we know what he has accomplished? 一長串的交易名單只會告訴我們Dipoto做了哪些事情，但是球隊會不會變得比較好就是天曉得了。 -- 那個不知名人士講的話真的是中肯: 「我實在搞不懂，看起來Dipoto像是做了348樁交易，然後把一個五成勝率的球隊變成還是只有五成勝率的球隊。」幫我水兵QQ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 223.137.180.194 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1504254064.A.5D1.html

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