[外絮] 禪師比較Chamberlain和O'Neal已回收

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Phil Jackson coached Shaquille O'Neal with the Lakers. In his playing days, Jackson was occasionally charged with guarding Wilt Chamberlain. Jackson compared the two legendary centers Wednesday night in Glendale at the Alex Theatre at his "Live Talks Los Angeles" event. 禪師Phil Jackson在湖人執教過O'Neal,在球員時代和張伯倫交過手。近日,他在一 個活動上對這兩位傳奇中鋒進行了一番比較。 "Shaquille didn't have quite the same athleticism that Wilt had," said Jackson. "He had the bounce and he had the speed, but he didn't have the endurance." 「Shaq沒有張伯倫那樣的運動能力,」禪師說道,「他有彈跳和速度,但他沒有耐力。」 As detailed in his memoir, "Eleven Rings: The Soul of Success," Jackson told O'Neal that Chamberlain's greatest accomplishment came in the 1961-62 season when he averaged 48.5 minutes a game. 禪師在他的新書裡寫到過,他曾告訴O'Neal,張伯倫在1961-62賽季場均上場48.5分鐘。 Jackson challenged O'Neal in their first season together (1999-2000) to get in better physical condition to improve his endurance. 禪師在執教O'Neal的第一個賽季(1999-2000)就嚴格要求他,為的就是讓他保持最佳的身 體狀態,提升他的耐力。 While defending Chamberlain, Jackson found some techniques that worked. 對於防守張伯倫,禪師發現了一些技巧。 "One of the things we were taught, just get in Wilt's path. He doesn't like the offensive foul," said Jackson on Wednesday. "If you take his shoulder and you fake an offensive foul, take the charge so to speak, he really would stop being aggressive. That was the one thing that was kind of a limitation in Wilt's game." 禪師說:「其中有一個就是,站在他的前進方向上,他不喜歡吃到進攻犯規。 如果你能 夠造他幾次進攻犯規,那麼他的侵略性就會減弱。這是限制張伯倫比賽的一種方法。」 In other words — flop. 換言之就是假摔。 O'Neal was faster from one end of the court to the other, at least to the offensive end. 禪師認為,O'Neal在球場兩端的奔跑速度要快一些,尤其是在進攻端。 "Shaq was a post sprinter," said Jackson. "He'd go and get in the lane." 禪師說:「Shaq是個內線短跑選手,他會很快落位到三秒區。」 Chamberlain took a much slower path. "Wilt was never much of a post sprinter. He used to take his time," said Jackson. "When he rebounded, a lot of times he'd make the guards come back to him to get the ball — so he'd be down there when the ball got to the other end of the court." 張伯倫的速度要慢些,禪師說:「張伯倫不是內線短跑選手,他通常會慢慢來。當他搶 到後場籃板時,大多數時候他都會讓他的控衛回來接球。當球運到前場時,他就恰好落 到低位。」 O'Neal also had a move that Chamberlain didn't use — and vice-versa. "[O'Neal] had a jump hook whereas Wilt didn't have a jump hook, he had an array of shots, he had a hook, a finger roll and a turnaround jump shot," said Jackson. "[Chamberlain] led the league in assists one year." O'Neal和張伯倫各有絕招。 禪師說:「O'Neal有一手勾手跳投,張伯倫沒有。張伯倫有一個賽季是助攻王。」 They both had the same flaw in their games. "Free-throw shooting? [Issues] on both sides," said Jackson. "Even then, at that time, you fouled Wilt if he was underneath the lane." 他們有同樣的缺點。 禪師說:「罰球,這是他們都存在的問題。即使是在那個年代,一旦張伯倫在籃下持球 ,你就會對他犯規。」 Chamberlain won two titles, his first in 1967 with the Philadelphia 76ers and in 1972 with the Lakers. 張伯倫贏過兩次總冠軍,第一次是1967年在76人時,第二次是1972年在湖人。 O'Neal helped lead the Lakers to three titles from 2000-2002. He also won a fourth with the Miami Heat in 2006. O'Neal則在2000-2002年連三年幫助湖人拿下總冠軍,還有2006年在熱火拿下第四座總冠 軍。 原文來源:http://tinyurl.com/k43pcfh 翻譯參考:http://voice.hupu.com/nba/1440246.html -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.40.234.235

06/17 13:59, , 1F
英文 我 看得懂 不用翻啦
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06/17 14:00, , 2F
他們罰球準的話 比賽還需要打嗎??
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06/17 14:01, , 3F
翻譯推!!
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06/17 14:03, , 4F
何只不愛吃進攻犯規..張大帥好像生涯從未6犯離場
06/17 14:03, 4F

06/17 14:07, , 5F
張大帥平均每場上45.8分鐘 但平均每場犯規只有2次
06/17 14:07, 5F

06/17 14:07, , 6F
一樓是中肛J??
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06/17 14:07, , 7F
Phil對Shaq關於耐力這點的見解 真的是一針見血阿...
06/17 14:07, 7F

06/17 14:09, , 8F
Shaq那個體型 還有耐力就太超過了..
06/17 14:09, 8F

06/17 14:10, , 9F
張大帥數據秋成這樣結果也才2個總冠軍?
06/17 14:10, 9F

06/17 14:10, , 10F
Shaq最大的缺點就季賽喜歡養傷+養生吧
06/17 14:10, 10F

06/17 14:10, , 11F
張大帥數據誇張有一部分是因為規則的關係..
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06/17 14:11, , 12F
整個季賽可能最認真的時候是明星賽出場表演時
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06/17 14:11, , 13F
推樓上XD
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06/17 14:11, , 14F
用PER這個與當代球員比較的數據來看 張大帥相對於
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06/17 14:11, , 15F
48.5???
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06/17 14:11, , 16F
同時代球員的統治力 就和MJ Shaq LBJ相當
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06/17 14:12, , 17F
Wilt的耐力的確很可怕,上場時間太扯
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06/17 14:13, , 18F
張大帥那時有個波士頓的勁敵 偏偏勁敵的隊友也很強
06/17 14:13, 18F

06/17 14:13, , 19F
>>iamwaitin:48.5??? 因為有延長賽
06/17 14:13, 19F

06/17 14:15, , 20F
主因是那個時候的球員都很矮 普遍6-9就打中鋒
06/17 14:15, 20F

06/17 14:15, , 21F
48.5是因為有幾場OT,那一季張伯倫只有1場吃2T下場而
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06/17 14:16, , 22F
好強的耐力!
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06/17 14:16, , 23F
沒打滿,其他場都打滿全場
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06/17 14:19, , 24F
應該是球隊助攻王吧 不過中鋒8.6次助攻是什麼概念
06/17 14:19, 24F

06/17 14:21, , 25F
是聯盟助攻王,該季助攻總數第1,場均第2
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06/17 14:21, , 26F
不愧是萬人斬 耐力超強
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06/17 14:24, , 27F
如果有火鍋抄截 張真人應該完美詮釋 i take five
06/17 14:24, 27F

06/17 14:27, , 28F
他火鍋應該不少 但那年代火鍋沒有被記錄
06/17 14:27, 28F

06/17 14:33, , 29F
張大帥好像對冠軍有解釋過 他說隊友太弱了...
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06/17 14:33, , 30F
他說給他到波士頓他能拿十冠
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06/17 14:37, , 31F
XDDD
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06/17 14:43, , 32F
這麼說也是有道理啦,畢竟張真人再強也沒辦法一打五
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06/17 14:50, , 33F
另一位神獸Bill Russell呢?
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06/17 14:54, , 34F
張大帥自己當然這麼說啊...聽聽就好
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06/17 14:54, , 35F
Bill Russell是防守型的,和這兩位比怪怪的
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06/17 14:56, , 36F
要說的話,MJ只擋了其他人六年冠軍,當年的波士頓卻
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06/17 14:57, , 37F
擋了十年,不得不佩服他們
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06/17 15:00, , 38F
張伯倫打熱火一定變廢物 滿地都是熱火球員
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06/17 15:10, , 39F
樓上我笑了XDDDDD
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06/17 15:24, , 40F
熱火:我們都用寢技來對付敵人
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06/17 15:45, , 41F
Chamberlain>Shaq
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06/17 15:52, , 42F
但是當年球隊比較少 選秀交易規則也不同
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06/17 15:53, , 43F
要比較很也難比較 不能單看冠軍多寡
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06/17 16:23, , 44F
大帥耐力真的很可怕,其他C再強也就上個35分鐘,至少
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06/17 16:24, , 45F
有10分鐘替補會被虐,說不定打一波就追不回來了
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06/17 17:57, , 46F
yensk2006也太好笑了吧!
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06/17 18:53, , 47F
yensk2006你害我在實驗室狂笑XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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06/17 20:12, , 48F
yensk2006 XDDDDD
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06/18 03:41, , 49F
yensk2006 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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