Re: [情報] Kobe為LBJ抱不平：2冠少?有1冠就很幸運了已回收

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所以呢?第幾順位被選走?關高中生屁事 <==你編輯內容

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其實真的跟高中生有關係，是時空背景的關係 Kobe是史上第一個樂透區的高中跳級生(外圍球員) 內線球員可以追逤到Mose Malone了高中賽季最後一年平均30.8分12籃板6.5助攻4抄截3.8火鍋還打破張真人的賓州東南區高中累積得分紀錄相較LeBron James高中最後一年數據31.6分9.6籃板4.6助攻3.4抄截1.9火鍋純以數據層面Kobe毫不遜色相信如果Kobe晚出生幾年也有可能成為選秀狀元的更別說還是在黃金96梯可以達到這歷史標竿更難能可貴隔年強如T-Mac，97梯沒有96才華洋溢 T-Mac也只是第九順位而已而對照這兩個超級高中生(外圍球員)生涯前期成長曲線也是很類似的 Kobe FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS .417 .375 .819 1.9 1.3 0.7 0.3 1.6 7.6 .428 .341 .794 3.1 2.5 0.9 0.5 2.0 15.4 .465 .267 .839 5.3 3.8 1.4 1.0 3.1 19.9 .468 .319 .821 6.3 4.9 1.6 0.9 2.8 22.5 .464 .305 .853 5.9 5.0 1.7 0.6 3.2 28.5 T-Mac FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS .450 .341 .712 4.2 1.5 0.8 1.0 1.0 7.0 .436 .229 .726 5.7 2.3 1.1 1.3 1.6 9.3 .451 .277 .707 6.3 3.3 1.1 1.9 2.0 15.4 .457 .355 .733 7.5 4.6 1.5 1.5 2.6 26.8 .451 .364 .748 7.9 5.3 1.6 1.0 2.5 25.6 不難看出各球團在那年代對於高中外圍跳級生都不是足夠信任的都從板凳開始，也沒有充裕的球權，當然也跟陣中都有好球員卡位有關湖人是之後清掉Eddie Jones 而T-Mac則是離開暴龍到魔術才解放這也可以從Kobe回憶當初選秀時的自述可以看出以下引用板友LABOYS在湖版的外電翻譯，若有不滿請來信告知，得罪莫怪 Kobe shunned, bypassed by several teams heading into ’96 draft Kobe憶96年選秀 Posted: 1:17 AM, February 12, 2012 原文網址： http://0rz.tw/XIw5H Friday, when Kobe Bryant led the Lakers into Madison Square Garden, we looked back at the 1996 NBA Draft, and how so many teams could have been so wary/wrong about someone so gifted. 周五，當Kobe Bryant和湖人作客Madison Square Garden之時，我們追逤到1996年的NBA選秀，一個很多球隊在當下察覺了，或是錯判某個球員懷有天賦的時刻。 Today, Kobe discloses other draft dodgers and dissers. 今天，Kobe揭露了一些其他當時選秀的冷落以及秘辛。 John Nash’s needle isn’t the only one stuck on the 1996 draft. John Nash的刺激並不是他在1996年唯一遭遇到的。 That time period remains equally entrenched in Kobe Bryant’s consciousness. He finds some stuff that happened funny, other things exasperating and a couple occurrences outright incomprehensible. 這一些時刻如今依舊盤旋在Kobe Bryant的腦海，他遭遇了一些相當滑稽的遭遇，以及一些他相當震怒或是完全難以置信之事。 I didn’t raise the subject; he did. 並不是我發起這個主題的，而是他本人。 The one rubbing Bryant the rawest implicates Dave Cowens, then the Hornets’ coach. At some point soon after the Hornets selected Bryant with the No. 13 pick, the two had a private phone conversation that went something like this. Bryant在這次訪談最先吐出的名字是Dave Cowens，時任黃蜂的總教練。在黃蜂隊用第十三順位選擇Bryant過後不久，他們兩個私下曾有過電話交流，對話內容如下。 Cowens: “You know what the deal is, right? Cowens: "你知道交易的內容了（湖人用Divac交易Kobe），對吧？" Kobe: “Yes, I do.” Kobe: "是的，我知道了。" Cowens: “Well, that’s good, because we don’t need you anyway.” Cowens: "嗯，那就好，因為我們並不需要你。" Kobe is as stupefied and infuriated now as he was then. Kobe在當時被嚇傻了，並且直到現在還是對當時的事情相當憤怒。 “Can you believe someone would say something like that to a 17-year-old!” he says, his face one-third smile, one-third scowl and one-third sinister. "你能相信某人竟然能對一個17歲的孩子說出這樣的話嗎？" 他說，他臉上帶有三分之一的笑容，三分之一的憤怒以及三分之一的險惡。 “That really threw me. It really hurt. Especially since it came from him. I knew about Dave Cowens. I knew what a great player he was. I followed his career. I looked up to him because he played so hard and showed so much passion. That spit just blew me away!” "這真的讓我非常難受，這件事讓我非常受傷。特別是這些話出自於他的口中，我對Dave Cowens很了解，我知道他曾是個卓越的球員，我見證了他整個球員生涯，我關注他，是因為他非常賣力的打球，並且對於籃球有非常多的熱情。而這段談話無疑讓我青天霹靂。" Then again, by then, Bryant should have been accustomed to being disillusioned by Hall of Fame players. Twice he worked out for Clippers’ GM Elgin Baylor … and coach Bill Fitch. After the second, the two dream weavers invited Bryant to lunch. 而後，再一次的，Bryant必須開始習慣名人堂的成員再一次讓他幻滅了。他在快艇隊參加了兩次的試訓，當時的總管是Elgin Baylor，而總教練是Bill Fitch，在試訓過後，這兩個夢的編織者邀請Bryant共進午餐。 “They told me it was the two best workouts they’d ever seen,” he said. “That’s it, I figured, I was going be a Clipper and play in L.A. I was pumped!” "他們告訴我，這是他們兩個人所看過最棒的試訓內容。" 他說， "當下，我想我可以進入快艇隊，替洛杉磯打球了。這非常令人振奮。" Before Bryant had finished his fantasy, his magic carpet ride crashed. Out of nowhere, Baylor and Fitch flipped the switch. 而在Bryant做完他的白日夢之前，這個夢想馬上就被摧毀了。毫無預警，Baylor和Fitch兩人話鋒一轉。 “Your skill level is off the charts. Your athleticism is exceptional. And your energy and enthusiasm are remarkable,” they gushed. "你的技術等級已經超群，你的運動能力相當優秀。而你的能量和比賽熱情都非常傑出，" 他們如驟雨般說著， “But we can’t draft you.” "但是我們不能選你。" Huh? What! Why not? 嗄？啥！為什麼？ “Because people out here won’t think we’re serious if we draft a high school kid at No. 7.” So, Baylor and Fitch showed they meant business by plucking Memphis center Lorenzen Wright (whose July 2010 murder remains unsolved). "因為若是用第七順位去選一個高中生的話，這裡的人不會認為我們是認真的。" 於是Baylor 和 Fitch傾向於選擇曼菲斯的中鋒Lorenzen Wright。（他在2010年七月被謀殺身亡，本案尚未解決。） Bryant never had any reason to believe he would wind up playing in nearby Philadelphia for the 76ers, holders of the draft’s oceanfront lot. There was little doubt Allen Iverson would be the top pick. Yet GM Brad Greenberg invited Kobe in, anyway, for a test run. Bryant從來沒想到當年擁有狀元籤的費城七六人也會同意讓他參加試訓，但是想必是競爭激烈，他們對於Allen Iverson是否是最好的狀元選擇有點質疑，然後總管Brad Greenberg邀請Kobe試訓，然而，是項跑步測試。 “I guess they saw some of my high school games. That was the only explanation I could think of for not being asked to shoot or dribble or demonstrate any of my skills” Bryant said. “All they wanted me to do was to sprint the court. They timed me on a stop watch.” "我猜測他們已經看過了一些我高中的影片，這是對於不用測試投籃、運球，以及演示諸如此類的籃球技能這點，我唯一能想到的解釋。" Bryant說。 "他們要我做的唯一一件事情，就是在繞場跑步，而他們對我的速度計時。" Greenberg told Bryant him Iverson had run faster. 然後 Greenberg 告訴 Bryant，Iverson 跑得比他快。 “So?!?!” Kobe exclaimed. "然後勒？！？！" Kobe驚喊出聲。 On the day of the draft, or just before it, Philly columnist John Smallwood implored the Sixers to draft Kobe. 在選秀的那一天，或是可能在那之前一點，費城的專欄作家John Smallwood，懇求費城七六人用狀元籤選Kobe。 “He said they’d regret it forever if they didn’t,” Kobe recalled. "他說，他們如果沒有這麼做，將會後悔一輩子。" Kobe回顧著。 “The funny thing is, he was on my ass for one thing or another my whole senior year. The Sixers were so bad I guess that’s why he turned his attention on me. And then in the end, for some reason he changed his opinion about me. He’s looking pretty good.” "有趣的事情是，他在我高年級那年整天跟在我的屁股後面跑。七六人當時的狀況太差了，我猜這是為什麼他把注意力放到了我的身上。而在最終，因為某些原因，他將他的選擇改成了我，他的觀察十分入微。" Greenberg disputes Bryant’s version. In an email he said the workout consisted of more than running. 而Greenberg不同意Bryant所說的版本，在一封電子郵件中，他表示那次試訓有除了跑步之外的課題。 “He did shooting drills and other stuff ... had a great workout,” Greenberg wrote. "他在投籃和其他層面都做得很好...他有一個很好的試訓內容。" Greenberg是這麼寫的。 “I just thought Iverson [was] a better selection at the time. I wasn’t comfortable going with a HS kid for the No. 1 pick vs. Iverson.” "我只是認為Iverson在那個時間點是一個更好的選擇，用狀元籤選一個高中孩子而不選擇Iverson，我覺得並不妥。" Bryant estimates receiving well over 500 scholarship offers. Some were from colleges in places he never knew existed whose courses and schedules are completed online. Each day during a break, he would glide into Lower Marion H.S. coach Gregg Downer’s office and pick up the latest batch of recruitment letters. Bryant在當時，接到了超過500份的獎學金提供，有些甚至是他從他從未聽說過坐落於何處，課程和時間表全在線上完成的學校寄來。每一天的休息時間，他都會溜韃過 Lower Marion高中籃球教練Gregg Downer的辦公室，並且取下每批最新的招募信函。 One jutted out above the rest. It was from Dean Smith, not a form letter from the University of North Carolina, mind you, but a hand-written message from the aristocrat coach. 其中最令他感到特殊者，是從Dean Smith寄來的，並不是從北卡學校官方所寄來，而是來自這位名教頭的親筆信函。 “I couldn’t wait to read it, but I didn’t want to do it with people looking over my shoulder,” recounted a roused Bryant . “So I opened it quietly during English class while the teacher was talking.” "我迫不及待的想要讀信，但是我不想在我這麼做的時候被人越過我的肩偷看。" Bryant闡述了他當時激昂的情緒。 "所以我在英語課的課堂中，當台上的老師在說話時安靜的將其拆開。" Smith said he had heard how well Kobe had played against UNC’s Jerry Stackhouse (third pick of ’95 draft, by the 76ers) and knew it was all but certain he would turn pro when he graduated. Smith在信中說他已經聽聞他在和UNC的Jerry Stackhouse（95年第三順位被七六人所選）對抗時表現的有多出色，以及他已經知道自己決定在高中畢業過後就挑戰職業。 “However, by any chance, if you change your mind, I want you to know I’m holding a scholarship for you.” "但是，不管任何時刻，如果你改變心意，我希望你知道我為你保留了一份獎學金的機會。" Does Bryant still have the letter? Bryant仍然留著這封信嗎？ “Are you kidding, bro! Of course, I still have it! It’s from Dean bleepin' Smith!” "你在開玩笑嗎，老兄！當然留著阿！這可是響噹噹的Dean Smith寫給我的勒！" If Dean Smith couldn’t entice Bryant to play for UNC, what chance did John Calipari and the Nets have of getting him to New Jersey vs. skipping off to Italy, which was the threat by agent Arn Tellem? 如果Dean Smith不能成功誘惑Bryant來UNC打球，那John Calipari和籃網隊沒有因為他的經紀人Arn Tellem威脅要回義大利而跳過他，進而選這小夥子回紐澤西打球的機會有多少呢？ “Naw,” Kobe countered, “had the Nets drafted me, I would’ve played there and wouldn’t have tried to force a trade. I was 17, bro, I just wanted to ball.” "不。" Kobe反駁， "如果籃網選我，我當然會去那裏打球，而不是強迫去搞什麼交易。" "我當時才17歲，老兄，我只是想上場打球。" Oh, great, now he tells them. So, what would have happened had he become a Net? 喔，很好，他現在跟我們這樣說，所以，如果你在當時成為一個籃網球員會如何呢？ “Calipari probably would still be coach,” Bryant said. "那Calipari有可能還繼續在當教練吧。" Bryant說。所以別再說Kobe選秀順位低，生涯開始沒有充裕的上場時間是因為他太廢了這是歷史的因素，當年沒啥人相信高中跳級生沒有身材優勢能成為即戰力就如同幾年後國際球員強如Dirk、Peja也是從板凳出發的，選秀順位也不高一樣 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.133.66.187 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1403072626.A.344.html

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