Re: [花邊] 快艇隊祝賀同城道奇隊奪得世界大賽冠軍
: : THE 蹭失敗
: 其實我不懂為何洛城球迷那麼討厭快艇耶
: why??
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Why do Lakers’ fans outnumber Clippers’ fans even if the Clippers are the
designated home team?
為什麼即使是快艇主場,湖人的球迷還是多過快艇的球迷?
Mike Lew, Fans of all sports since 1985
Answered May 18, 2019 · Author has 286 answers and 2.6M answer views
The honest answer?
你要聽最誠實的答案?
The Clippers are not an exciting team. That’s the truth and never got
dispelled.
快艇隊不是一支會讓人興奮的球隊。這是一個永遠不會被消除的事實。
Both teams are teams that got relocated to LA, Lakers from Minneapolis (from
the city of Thousand Lakes, hence why they’re called the Lakers) and
Clippers from San Diego (because of the boats marine in the San Diego area).
So it’s not like they were original teams and most people don’t associated
the team from the past origins.
這兩支球隊都是遷過來洛杉磯的,分別是 Minneapolis 的湖人(千湖之城,也因此得名)
快艇是從 San Diego(因為 San Diego地區的 boats marine 得名)
所以這並不像是典型的在地傳統隊伍之爭,大部分的人也沒有將他們將起源處連結起來。
However, when the Clippers moved in to Los Angeles in the 1980s, they made
several botched attempts in trying to lure the crowds to their game. First,
they settled in to LA Sports arena, which was pretty run down. The Lakers
played in a much nicer and exciting place called “The Fabulous Forum”. It
also helped that parking was easier to find in the Forum versus the nightmare
going to downtown LA for that meaningless Clippers game.
然而,當快艇在 1980年代遷徙到洛杉磯時,他們為了招攬群眾去觀看他們的比賽,
進行過幾次拙劣的嘗試,首先:
他們立足在 LA Sports arena,那是一間非常破舊的場館。
而湖人隊在一個更讚,更令人興奮的新場館 "The Fabulous Forum"比賽,
而且比起要去觀看快艇隊那毫無意義的比賽要面臨的惡夢市中心車潮,
湖人的 Forum 場館更容易找到停車位。
Second, the Lakers were playing exciting full court fast break game whenever
they can while the Clippers with aging veterans who would slowly bring the
ball up the court and set up their ever-so-slow-lame iso game in the low post.
第二,湖人當時不論何時,打的都是令人血脈噴張的全場快攻轉換比賽,
而快艇隊則有諸多老將,他們會慢慢帶球到前場,
並且一球一球布置他們慢得要死的低位 iso 打法。
Speaking of the players, the Lakers at the 80s got the allure of Magic
Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and were drawing hip celebrities
to their game with fan fare. In the turn of the century, they were getting
corporate sponsorships and a ton of exposure from their Shaq/Kobe days.
當提到球員,80年代湖人有魔術強生,黑旋風渥錫,天勾賈霸的魅力,
並且將諸多名人演員吸引成為座上賓。
在世紀的轉折點,他們在 Shaq/Kobe 的歲月裡得到了大量的企業贊助和曝光度。
The Clippers? They were penny pinching. Not kidding about it. They were
always looking to cut corners and having stop gap efforts while treating
their games like a Laissez-faire. While there was excitement and the
attractions seemed to be in Lakers games, it’s just drury and real lack of
tensions in the Clippers game. Heck, a high basketball game between Crenshaw
and Mater Dei High schools were more intense than any of the Clippers games.
而快艇呢? 他們有客家精神。不開玩笑。
他們總是想省這省那,並且一直在尋找縮短差距的捷徑,卻又自由放任對待他們的比賽
儘管充滿刺激,更吸引人的總是湖人隊的比賽,快艇隊的比賽總是乏味又缺少緊張感。
天啊,甚至 Crenshaw 和 Mater Dei 兩支高中的球隊打起來都比快艇比賽有張力。
In the 80s and even recent years, they would rather trade their established
players they marketed growing up with the team before they hit free agency
(starting with Michael Cage, Danny Manning, Ron Harper, to recently Blake
Griffin and Tobias Harris). While the Lakers are on CBS in the 80s, NBC in
the 90s to the turn of the century, to TNT/ESPN/ABC, the Clippers in the old
days to now are hardly ever featured.
在八十年代,甚至是最近幾年,
他們總是進入自由球員市場試水溫前,寧願先交易自己培養出來的球隊老牌球員,
(從 Michael Cage, Danny Manning, Ron Harper,,
到最近的 Blake Griffin、Tobias Harris)
湖人經歷了八十年代在 CBS,九十年代在 NBC,過了一個世紀現在的 TNT/ESPN/ABC,
都過了這麼久,過去的快船隊可以說幾乎沒有任何特色。
Growing up in LA, it’s a big disparity on the amount of coverage between the
team. The Lakers would be in playoffs and the only excitement for the
Clippers after the season is their draft lottery. They get featured on major
network finally!
在洛杉磯長大,確實兩支球隊的支持度差距很大。
湖人總是要打季後賽,而快艇在賽季後唯一興奮點就是他們的樂透籤第幾順位。
他們終於有機會在主流媒體下露個臉了!
The Clippers did have a few moments that were more exciting than the Lakers
when they have their down years, but even then the Lakers in their down years
still grab all the headlines. Shoot, the Clippers made the playoff last year,
but more people in Quora and elsewhere are more interested in what’s wrong
with the Lakers and Lebron.
快艇隊確實有一些時刻,比起湖人隊的低迷期還要令人興奮。
但是即便是如此,湖人在低迷時期依然佔據了所有的頭條新聞。
快艇去年打入了季後賽,但是在 Quora 和其他地方,
大家更有興趣的事情,反而是湖人隊和 LeBron 到底出了什麼問題。
Now you can see why it’s hard to root for the Clippers. I spend more time
talking about the marketing aspect, but didn’t mentioned one word about
Donald Sterling and that itself was a major turnoff for people who lived in
one of his buildings he owned. There’s no chance is it that the stories told
about him might turned people off about the Clippers?
現在你應該可以了解,為什麼快艇隊很難在洛杉磯紮根。
我花了很多時間談論市場營銷面,但甚至都還沒開始提及到 Donald Sterling 這個名字。
對於居住他所擁有的其中一棟建築裡的人來說,他本身就是一道支持快艇的主要阻礙。
講述關於他的故事或許是沒有機會讓人們對快艇感到不屑一顧?
It won’t changed. Lakers are again getting tons of coverage, attracting
major players when they can, and getting love and fan support in Los Angeles.
The Clippers are back to square one in developing young guys and getting rid
of guys who will asked for money in the free agency.
這件事情不會改變。
湖人再度獲得更多的媒體關注,並當可能延攬的時候吸引巨星加盟,
並且在洛杉磯得到關愛和球迷的支持。
快艇會回去繼續培養他們的年輕球員,然後擺脫每一個進入自由市場想拿大約的人。
See… the routine never changed. It’s 2019 as I am writing this, but yet it
still feels like it’s the 80s when both teams just started sharing the LA
market.
你看…這個規律從未改變。
我寫下這篇回答的現在已經是2019年,但我覺得就宛如八十年代,
兩支球隊剛開始共享洛杉磯市場的那時候一樣。
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不過快艇還是有斬獲的,在去年大刀闊斧的操作之下,
他們成功的
成功的
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Clippers, not the Celtics, have become Lakers’ most-hated rival
成功了取代了塞爾提克,成為了現在湖人社群最討厭的球隊。
去年塞爾提克 vs 快艇的比賽,
隨隊記者推特上的投票甚至希望快艇輸的更多。 XDDDD
這在以前是不可能發生的事情。
成功把自己從 「洛杉磯的另一隊」 變成「洛杉磯的討厭鬼」,厲害了
寄養的要怎樣,大家平常沒意見,但是動手搶親生兒子衣服穿,那就是太白目
https://i.imgur.com/DLbRU8N.jpg
his city.....呵
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