Re: [外絮] 三分球過於氾濫經紀人希望聯盟應該

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※ 引述《mingonly (字母鋼)》之銘言： : 三分球過於氾濫經紀人希望聯盟應該做出改變 : http://i.imgur.com/ZbR7iyi.jpg

: A COUPLE OF WEEKS back, the Milwaukee Bucks and Minnesota Timberwolves squar : ed off in a game that only a few years ago would have been historic but in 2 : 021 is just another Tuesday night. In a sparsely filled Fiserv Forum, the tw : o teams attempted 96 3-point shots -- one every 30 seconds. : 幾週前，公鹿隊在對決灰狼在一場比賽中兩隊共出手96次三分球，每30秒出手一次，如 : 果在幾年前，這場比賽可能會是歷史性的，但方在2021年這樣的三分對飆只是再平常不 : 過的事。 : Of the 22 players who took the floor, 19 of them took at least one 3. : 在22名上場的球員中，有19人至少投了1次三分球。 : Wolves rookie Anthony Edwards is a marvel leaping off two feet, as witnessed : by his recent dunk of the year spectacular?-- though you wouldn't know it f : rom this performance.The 31.4% 3-point shooter jacked up two attempts in the : third quarter off the dribble from 26 feet, with 16 and 14 seconds remainin : g on the shot clock, : 灰狼狀元Vincent Edwards以強硬的突破和勁爆的灌籃著稱，儘管當晚你從他的表現中無 : 法看出這一點。在第三節，Edwards有兩次在26英尺的位置直接出手，而進攻時間顯示 : 還有16秒和14秒。 : Likewise, two-time reigning MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo, the league's most dev : astating finisher and still trying to cultivate an outside game, twice breez : ed across half court and launched an early triple. : 同樣的，兩次獲得MVP的字母哥，作為聯盟籃下終結能力最強的怪物之一，仍然在努力培 : 養外線能力，兩次輕鬆穿過半場不久就出手遠投。 : For a growing number of NBA executives and coaches, the problem isn't that N : BA offenses are wrong for firing up an average of 35 attempts per game from : long distance. The problem is that they're right. It would be tactical malpr : actice for any team to swear off the 3-pointer : 對於越來越多的球隊高層和教練們看來，自己的隊伍每場出手35次三分球並不是問題， : 不投才是問題。對於任何球隊來說，不投三分都是戰術失誤。 : There are a handful of players whose midrange 2-point attempt represents a h : igh-percentage shot, but for the vast majority of players, the best shot is : one from behind the 3-point line or at the rim. : 聯盟裡有很少部分球員有著較高的中距離命中率，但對於大多數的球員來說，最好的出 : 手點是在三分線外或籃下。 : Recent conversations with multiple league insiders about the state of the ga : me reveal a consistent theme: As the rate of 3-pointers has exploded, the NB : A might finally be reaching a critical mass. Some raise concerns because the : y believe the 3-ball has created a monotonous rhythm to each game, while oth : ers believe it has distorted the scoring system that determines wins and los : ses. : 最近多位聯盟內部人士對於比賽狀態已經產生了這樣一種聲音：隨著三分球率的激增， : 按照眼下的態勢發展下去，NBA的三分球問題早晚會達到臨界點。越來越多人對此感到擔 : 憂，有些人覺得三分球已經讓比賽變得過於單調，還有人認為這種武器已經扭曲了決定 : 輸贏的得分方式。 : "You can go overboard -- those nights you get 45 and 50 [attempts]," said De : troit Pistons coach Dwane Casey, whose team ranks 11th in percentage of fiel : d goals attempted that are 3-pointers. "Your quality of shots is going down, : and there's going to be quick possessions. It kind of dilutes the spirit of : the game and the soul of the game. It's about moving the ball from side to : side, not just coming down and jacking up quick 3s. : 活塞主教練Dwane Casey稱：你可以走的非常極端，有時候你一場三分球能出手45-50次 : 。他的隊伍三分出手數排在聯盟第11。你的投籃品質在下降，有時候會有很多倉促的回 : 合。從某些角度來看，這沖淡了比賽的精神和靈魂。這應該是一項關於轉移球尋找機會 : 的運動，而不是提速來完成三分出手。 : Measures that have been implemented over the past 20 years to help jump-star : t scoring are approaching an age of overcorrection. In an effort to lift the : game out of the '90s mud : 為了把NBA從90年代的泥濘對抗中解放出來，聯盟過去20年中採取了一系列措施，但他們 : 的調整似乎有些過度了。 : THERE'S LITTLE DESIRE across the league to return to Patrick Ewing vs. Alonz : o Mourning, but there's also a sense that the game is losing diversity of id : entity, at least offensively. This school of thought maintains that a stylis : tic conformity has overtaken the game. One of the more appealing characteris : tics of basketball is the number of ways a player can score, but a 3-pointer : every 30 to 45 seconds introduces a repetition that isn't so appealing. : 聯盟並不希望比賽又重回Patrick Ewing和Alonzo Mourning肉搏的時代，但眼下的比賽 : 也確實在失去多樣性，至少在進攻端是如此。風格上的一致性正在掩蓋比賽的魅力，籃 : 球比賽最吸引人的地方之一就是豐富的戰術和得分方式，但隨著所有球隊都在每隔30-4 : 0秒就出手一次三分，讓比賽變得枯燥。 : As offenses now field four or even five shooters on the floor, and dynamos s : uch as Stephen Curry and Damian Lillard must be accounted for at 30 feet or : beyond, defenses simply have too much ground to cover to properly challenge : the barrage of long-range shots. : 現在不少的隊伍都會在場上擺4個甚至5個射手，再加上像Curry、Damian Lillard這種能 : 把30英尺出手變成常規操作的變態射手，防守的球員幾乎不可能覆蓋到這麼大的防守範 : 圍。 : "It often looks like no defense is being played," Casey said. "But when ther : e are four shooters on the floor and a big man at the dunker [spot], spacing : is inflated and a defense is stretched to its limit. Guys are working, but : it's impossible to cover that much ground against NBA speed, quickness and p : ower. : Casey教練說：現在的比賽經常會看上去根本沒有防守。但是當你在場上擺了4個射手， : 內線還有一個攻框中鋒的時候，進攻空間太大了，防守的範圍是有限的。大家已經在努 : 力了，但考慮到NBA球員的速度、爆發力和敏捷性，想要防住這樣的進攻是不可能的。 : Including the playoffs, 61 games in NBA history have featured at least 90 3- : point attempts -- and 45 of the 61 have occurred since the start of last sea : son, according to ESPN Sports & Information. The 3-pointer now represents 39 : .4% of all field goal attempts -- that's up 61% from the 2011-12 season. For : those who welcome or accept the ascendance of the 3, this is a feature not : a bug. : 據數據統計，包含季後賽在內，NBA歷史上有61場比賽至少有90次三分出手，其中45次發 : 生在上個賽季開始之後。如今各隊平均三分出手佔比達到39.4%，比2011-12賽季增加了 : 61%但對於那些不認為三分是壞事的教練來說，這僅僅是一個改變，而不是問題。 : "I don't think we can call it a bad thing when players are highly skilled, w : hich is what the game should be about," Carlisle said. "The 3-point shot has : revolutionized our game. Taking a dribble-up 3 six or seven years ago was a : cardinal sin. And now we're all doing drills where guys shoot dribble-up 3s : -- and we include our 7-3 center in those drills. The value of this sort of : 3-point shot is big. : Carlisle：我不覺得這是壞事，球員們變得技術更好了，籃球比賽本來就是這樣，三分 : 球正在改寫這項運動，持球投三分在6、7年前還被視為愚蠢，但現在所有人都在這麼幹 : ，甚至連我們身高超過2.2米的中鋒都進行了三分練習。三分就是如此重要。 : WHERE AND WHEN the trajectory levels out and 3-pointers are no longer a grow : th commodity in the NBA is unknown. The league could soon see a day when mor : e than 50% of attempted shots are fired from beyond the arc, or it could see : the advent of creative defenses led by a generation of players who can stem : the tide. Just as likely, those who govern the NBA may believe that reining : in the 3-pointer is a solution in search of a problem. : NBA的三分浪潮何時才能放緩這點目前還不得而知，也許聯盟會在不遠的將來看到各隊三 : 分出手佔比突破50%，也許有人能發明出更有效的防守策略。但更有可能的情況是，通過 : 控制三分是一個尋找問題的解決方案。 : Given the 50% premium for a shot that's rarely 50% more difficult, getting p : layers to wean themselves off 3-pointers wouldn't come without some signific : ant changes to the incentive structure. : 和兩分球相比，三分球多出了50%的產量，但難度卻沒有高出50%，如果沒有一些重大的 : 改變，要讓球員們戒掉三分球是不可能的。 : A more radical proposal from a longtime league power broker who wishes to re : main anonymous (unless the idea gains traction) would curb inflation by limi : ting supply: Cap the amount of 3-pointers a team can take over the course of : a game. : 一位具有權勢的匿名經紀人提出了更激進的建議，他覺得聯盟可以限制每支球隊在比賽 : 中的三分球出手次數。 : Over the first 42 minutes of the game, each team would have the chance to at : tempt 20 shots from beyond the arc that would count for three points. Once a : n offense runs out of those 20 attempts, it can keep shooting from behind th : e line, but each subsequent make would count for only two points -- until th : e 6:00 mark of the fourth quarter, when attempts would once again worth thre : e points until the game is over. : 在比賽的前42分鐘內，每支球隊的前20次三分出手將計入三分。一但進攻方的20次出手 : 用完，後續的三分出手只能算2分。而到了第四節最後6分鐘，再恢復成正常的三分計分 : ，直到比賽結束。 : Under these rules, an offense would need to be strategic and selective with : its 3s. : 如果在這種規則下比賽，各隊對於三分出手的使用會更加謹慎。 : A successful league remains in a constant state of vigilance about the chara : cter of its product and the path of its trends. Scoring, and the 3-pointer i : n particular, revitalized NBA basketball at some of its most precarious mome : nts when it threatened to fall behind the NHL, then again two decades later : when it lost its aesthetic appeal. : 一個成功的商業體育聯盟，應當始終關注自己的產品特性和變化。在NBA面臨落後於NHL : 的危機時刻，三分球的出現曾經拯救了NBA，讓它在很長一段時間裡蓬勃發展。然而在2 : 0年後，當它失去審美吸引力時，聯盟就應該有所行動。 : https://reurl.cc/qmGzWn : -- : ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.136.215.22 (臺灣) : ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1615382705.A.5CC.html : 推 akanishiking: SBL領先全美 03/10 21: 26 : 推 SEVEnMonth : 開放4分球嗎 03/10 21: 26 : ※ 編輯: mingonly (101.136.215.22 臺灣), 03/10/2021 21:27:00 : → takechance : 笑死季後賽就是中距離穩拿比不穩定三分好用 03/10 21: 27 : → l2l : 自從允許後撤步三分就逐漸變成現在這個樣子了 03/10 21: 28 : 噓 black205 : 火箭也沒奪冠啊 03/10 21: 28 : 推 jumpballfan : 哈哈美國也走進SBL泥淖之後收視會開始往下掉 03/10 21: 28 : 推 crystal666 : 不然把三分改2.5分阿 03/10 21: 29 我覺得應該把3分改成2.5分其實多了這種0.5的計算方式不會影響比賽的進行只要習慣一切都不是問題這樣投3分的cp值就會降低不會那麼多球員投3分比賽增加多元豐富性現在就是投3分cp值太高了不投就輸一半 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 101.9.238.230 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1615383336.A.F6D.html ※ 編輯: www90173 (101.9.238.230 臺灣), 03/10/2021 21:36:22

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