[外絮] 在聘請下一任教練前,湖人必須弄清的問題

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原文:https://reurl.cc/NQGb99 More than a decade after he was fired five games into the second year of his Los Angeles Lakers coaching career, Mike Brown admitted he regretted taking the job in the first place. "If I could do it again," Brown said in an interview with Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes on the "All the Smoke" podcast, "I probably wouldn't." 在執教湖人的第二年第五場比賽後被解雇的十多年後,Mike Brown承認他後悔當初接受這 份工作。 "如果可以重新來過,"Brown在"All Smoke"Podcast的一次訪談中對Stephen Jackson和 Matt·Barnes說道,"我可能不會這麼做。" NBA Hall of Famer Phil Jackson was just too tough to follow, Brown explained. No one could live up to the standard he had set in L.A. (five NBA titles) and Chicago (six titles). Brown had known that when he took the job in 2011. He had said as much during his introductory news conference. "I have great respect for Phil Jackson and all of his accomplishments," Brown said. "I'm not sure what size shoe he wears. But I'm not here to fill his shoes. I'm here to help this team and this organization carve our own path to success." But acknowledging how much pressure there is on the head coach of the Lakers and actually living through that pressure are two entirely different things. NBA名人堂成員Phil Jackson實在太難企及了,Brown解釋道。沒有人能達到他在洛杉磯(五 冠)和芝加哥(六冠)的成就。 Mike Brown在2011年接受這份工作時就知道這一點。在他的入職新聞發布會上,他曾這樣說 。"我非常尊重Phil Jackson和他的所有成就,"Mike Brown說道,"我不知道他穿多大的 鞋子,我也不是為了削足適履而來。我是來幫助這支球隊和這個組織開拓我們自己通往成 功的道路的。" 但是知道湖人隊總教練承受的壓力有多大跟實際上經歷這種壓力是完全不 同的事情。 Six coaches have tried to fill Jackson's shoes in the past 13 years. None has lasted more than three seasons. Darvin Ham became the latest to take that fall when he was fired Friday after just two seasons, despite a 90-74 record and a Western Conference finals appearance last season. Of those six, two went on to win NBA Coach of the Year awards in subsequent jobs -- Brown with the Sacramento Kings last season and Mike D'Antoni with the Houston Rockets in 2018 -- suggesting it's not the quality of the coach that determines success or failure on one of the NBA's biggest stages. 過去13年中已有六名教練試圖填補Phil Jackson的空缺。但沒有一個人能堅持超過三個賽季 。Darvin Ham成為最新一位僅兩個賽季就被解雇的教練,儘管他的戰績是90勝74負,去年 還打進了西部冠軍賽。 在這六位教練中,有兩人在之後的工作中獲得了年度最佳教練--上賽季在沙加緬度國王隊 的Mike Brown以及2018年在休斯頓火箭隊的Mike D'Antoni在--這表明教練的水準並不是在 NBA最大舞台上的成功或失敗的決定性因素。 It's how the coach manages everything else that comes along with guiding the NBA's glamour franchise. The star-first culture. The magnified lights. The pressurized history. But his tenure unraveled quickly in his second season. James bristled at the idea of restricting his minutes at the start of the season, sources said -- an idea that was noticeably scrapped after just a few games. Throughout the season, James, Davis and other key rotation players barely bothered to conceal criticisms of Ham's schemes, rotations and in-game adjustments. Ham在他執教的第一個賽季表現出色,巧妙地引導著球隊走過了Russell Westbrook時期的 尷尬,與球隊的超級巨星LeBron James和Anthony Davis建立了穩固的聯繫,並帶領球隊 意外地進入了西部冠軍賽。 但是這樣的好景在第二個賽季迅速瓦解了。 消息人士透露,LeBron對賽季初限制他的上場時間的想法感到不滿--這個想法在幾場比賽 後明顯地被放棄了。 在整個賽季中,LeBron、Davis和其他重要的輪替幾乎沒有隱藏對Ham的戰術、輪替和比賽 中調整的批評。 After Game 2 of the Lakers' first-round series loss to the Denver Nuggets, Davis said bluntly: "We have stretches where we don't know what we're doing on both ends of the floor." Ham told ESPN he spoke to Davis privately before defending himself and his staff publicly. But the damage had been done. Five nights later James underscored the lack of faith in Ham by stomping his feet in frustration when Ham refused to use his coach's challenge on a play where James insisted they would win. They were just two examples in a season long on barely-beneath-the-surface griping. But they were exceptionally visible displays from the team's most visible stars, and ultimately there was no coming back from it. 在首輪對陣金塊的第二場比賽失利後,Davis直言不諱地說:“我們有時候在場上的兩端都 不知道在做什麼。” Ham告訴ESPN,他私下和Anthony Davis交談後公開為自己和他的工作人員辯護。但損害已 經造成。 五天後, Ham拒絕在一場LeBron認為他們會贏的比賽中使用他的挑戰時,LeBron沮喪地跺 著腳表示了對Ham的不信任。 這只是一個賽季中浮上水面的兩個例子。但這是球隊雙星明顯的表示,最終無法回頭。 And so another summer of churn begins. The question the Lakers must ask themselves now is why -- and how to come back from yet another short, failed coaching stint. Years ago, Lakers governor Jeanie Buss told ESPN that it's important to find a coach and stick with him long enough to grow and develop an identity and style of play. That was several coaches and countless roster iterations ago. Each hiring and firing was different, but the pattern has remained the same. 所以又一個夏季的變動開始了。湖人隊現在必須問自己的問題是為什麼--以及如何從又一 次短暫而失敗的教練任期中重新站起來。 多年前,湖人隊董事長Jeanie Buss告訴ESPN,找到一名教練並與他合作足夠長的時間以 培養與發展球隊的打法與風格是很重要的。 但那是幾個教練和無數陣容變化之前的事情。每一次的聘請和解雇都是不同的。 After last season's playoff run, general manager Rob Pelinka emphasized re- signing the team's own free agents -- Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves and D' Angelo Russell -- rather than trading for a third star or pursuing more high- profile free agents. L.A. brought back Ham and his staff and hoped they'd build off of last year's run. Early on, it seemed possible, as the Lakers won the inaugural in-season tournament. Then, once again, the season unraveled. Injuries mounted. Ham tinkered with his lineups to try to recapture the defensive intensity that had driven last year's success. But instead of sparking a resurgence, Ham sparked resentment. Players started venting their frustrations publicly and privately. Eventually it became obvious Ham would be the one to pay the price if L.A. lost early in the playoffs. 在上個賽季的季後賽之後,總經理Robert Pelinka強調重新簽下球隊自己的自由球員—八 村壘、Austin Reaves和D'Angelo Russell--而不是交易第三名球星或追求更多知名的自 由球員。 洛杉磯帶回了Ham和他的教練團,希望他們能重建去年的成功。起初,這似乎是可能的,因 為湖人隊贏得了首屆賽季中的比賽。 然而,不斷的傷病拆散了這個希望。雖然Ham調整了他的陣容以期重新點燃去年成功的防守 強度,但最終Ham引發了敵意,球員們開始公開和私下抱怨。 如果湖人隊在季後賽早早出局,Ham將是付出代價的人。 It was so obvious that Nuggets coach Michael Malone tried to put in a good word for Ham at his news conference after Denver's series-ending win Monday night. "I think Darvin Ham is a hell of a coach," Malone said after Game 5. "That's not an easy job. I think Darvin does it with class. He's a good man, good coach, and I wish him all the best. Hopefully, he'll be around there for a long time because he deserves to be." Four days later, Ham was fired. 事態如此明顯,以至於金塊教練Michael Malone在周一晚上結束系列賽的賽後的新聞會上 試圖為Ham說句好話。 "我認為Ham是一位出色的教練,"Malone在賽後說道。"這不是一件容易的事。我認為Ham用 他的方式做到了。他是一個好人,一個好教練,我祝他一切順利。希望他能在那裡待很長 時間,因為他值得這樣。" 四天後,Ham被解雇了。 Malone had faced a similar crossroads back in 2018, when the Nuggets lost Game 83 to the Minnesota Timberwolves and missed the playoffs. The Nuggets came close to firing him after the season, sources said. But ultimately the team decided to run it back and give him another chance. It still took two more seasons for Malone and Denver to make a conference finals and five more for them to win a championship, however. The Nuggets are now the class of the NBA with soon-to-be three-time MVP Nikola Jokic, the NBA's fourth-longest-tenured coach and a championship core that's mostly under contract for two more seasons. Malone在2018年也曾面臨類似的處境,當時金塊隊在第83場比賽中輸給了灰狼隊,未能進 入季後賽。消息人士透露,金塊隊在賽季結束後差點就要解雇他。但最終,球隊決定留下 他並給他另一次機會。對Malone和丹佛來說,還需要兩個賽季才能進入西冠,並且還需要 五個賽季才能贏得總冠軍。 金塊現在是NBA的佼佼者,有著即將成為三次MVP的Nikola Jokic,NBA現役任期第四長的 教練以及一個大部分合約還有兩年或更久的核心陣容。 Continuity matters. Fourteen of the team's 17 championships were won by three coaches. That kind of patience and stability is a luxury in the NBA. Everyone strives for it, but very few franchises achieve it. The Lakers have tried and failed to find it six times since Jackson retired in 2011. Everyone who has taken the job says they know what they're getting into. From Kobe Bryant to LeBron James, and everyone and everything in between, no one the franchise has hired has been able to withstand it. Before the Lakers hire their next coach, they need to figure out why. 連續性很重要。湖人隊的17個冠軍中有14個是由三位教練贏得的。 這種耐心和穩定對NBA來說是一種奢侈。每個人都在努力實現它,但很少有球隊實現了。 自從2011年Phil Jackson退休以來,湖人隊已經嘗試了六次並且通通失敗了。 曾經接受這份工作的每個人都說他們知道自己在做什麼。從Kobe Bryant到LeBron James ,以及所有其他人和事物,這個球隊所聘用的人沒有一個能夠承受得住。在湖人聘請下一 位教練之前,他們需要弄清楚為什麼。 以上內容使用ChatGPT翻譯再進行潤稿 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.43.29.222 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1714852091.A.EAB.html

05/05 03:51, 1周前 , 1F
malone沒有公開批評球員,拿ham和malone比太侮辱人
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05/05 03:51, 1周前 , 2F
ham都幾次了
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05/05 03:52, 1周前 , 3F
老河流嘴球員還知道用影射的,ham的資歷地位不能和
05/05 03:52, 3F

05/05 03:52, 1周前 , 4F
老河比就已經會指名道姓了
05/05 03:52, 4F

05/05 03:53, 1周前 , 5F
馬龍也會火腿的愛將籃球嘛?
05/05 03:53, 5F

05/05 03:53, 1周前 , 6F
批評是已經知道要離開 所以直接撕破臉了吧
05/05 03:53, 6F

05/05 03:54, 1周前 , 7F
忍到季後賽才罵已經脾氣很好了
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05/05 03:54, 1周前 , 8F
他批評AD時才第二場
05/05 03:54, 8F

05/05 03:55, 1周前 , 9F
那時AD心態已經崩了,他不給雞湯還開嘴
05/05 03:55, 9F

05/05 03:55, 1周前 , 10F
雞湯可以不用 至少不要嘴自己球員
05/05 03:55, 10F
※ 編輯: wishxuso (114.43.29.222 臺灣), 05/05/2024 03:55:52

05/05 03:55, 1周前 , 11F
可以觀察火腿之後啊 會不會離開湖人後起飛
05/05 03:55, 11F

05/05 03:56, 1周前 , 12F
還沒下臺前直接公開批評球員這種教練能用嗎?我即
05/05 03:56, 12F

05/05 03:56, 1周前 , 13F
嘴自己球員其實不是不行 問題是Ham的方式很糟糕
05/05 03:56, 13F

05/05 03:56, 1周前 , 14F
使再不爽也不會做出公開批評前公司的事,因這只會
05/05 03:56, 14F

05/05 03:57, 1周前 , 15F
讓現任老闆討厭擔心
05/05 03:57, 15F

05/05 03:57, 1周前 , 16F
得COY但沒奪冠 對球隊有什麼好處
05/05 03:57, 16F

05/05 03:57, 1周前 , 17F
打到季後賽還讓自己主將不知道在幹嘛也是滿厲害的
05/05 03:57, 17F

05/05 03:57, 1周前 , 18F
他的公關能力可能是所有教練裡面我看到最爛的
05/05 03:57, 18F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 19F
後來執教出成績的教練明明都蹲好幾年
05/05 03:58, 19F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 20F
Ham講幹話的功力還不到家 會惹到別人 如果是波波就
05/05 03:58, 20F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 21F
這文章講的好像離開湖人馬上起飛
05/05 03:58, 21F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 22F
安全下莊了
05/05 03:58, 22F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 23F
這倒是真的 這篇文就只有一句話比較重要
05/05 03:58, 23F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 24F
“Continuity Matters”
05/05 03:58, 24F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 25F
火腿連一個社會人如何在社會生存都做不好怎麼跟那
05/05 03:58, 25F

05/05 03:58, 1周前 , 26F
些球星溝通?
05/05 03:58, 26F

05/05 03:59, 1周前 , 27F
火腿最大的問題是總教練不懂得溝通就算了
05/05 03:59, 27F

05/05 03:59, 1周前 , 28F
你可以閉嘴
05/05 03:59, 28F

05/05 04:00, 1周前 , 29F
他被拍到很多次暫停不知道戰術版要畫什麼戰術其他人
05/05 04:00, 29F

05/05 04:00, 1周前 , 30F
看他等時間過去
05/05 04:00, 30F

05/05 04:00, 1周前 , 31F
你可以講幹活但不要公開批評老闆,更不要公開批評
05/05 04:00, 31F

05/05 04:01, 1周前 , 32F
球員,因為這樣做毫無幫助,只會讓問題更加複雜
05/05 04:01, 32F

05/05 04:01, 1周前 , 33F
這時候他知道閉嘴省得尷尬,怎麼記者會上反過來
05/05 04:01, 33F

05/05 04:01, 1周前 , 34F
如果火腿有養成能力我相信湖人還會給機會 問題是他
05/05 04:01, 34F

05/05 04:01, 1周前 , 35F
只會愛將
05/05 04:01, 35F

05/05 04:02, 1周前 , 36F
沒啦 會批評自家球員的很多 但大部分都是球員很清
05/05 04:02, 36F

05/05 04:02, 1周前 , 37F
楚自己該被批評的時候 Ham比較像火上加油lol
05/05 04:02, 37F

05/05 04:02, 1周前 , 38F
鱸魚整個下半季都在噴自家球員齁
05/05 04:02, 38F
還有 145 則推文
05/05 07:18, 1周前 , 184F
熱~
05/05 07:18, 184F

05/05 07:20, 1周前 , 185F
打金塊真的很像頭撞到只會一套
05/05 07:20, 185F

05/05 07:53, 1周前 , 186F
你用戰績看不算差啊,單純西區太卷
05/05 07:53, 186F

05/05 08:05, 1周前 , 187F
愛將籃球跟批評球員其實不少見,但火腿兩個都很派
05/05 08:05, 187F

05/05 08:05, 1周前 , 188F
而且火腿自己沒有壓得住的實績
05/05 08:05, 188F

05/05 08:23, 1周前 , 189F
隊上大頭症一堆啊
05/05 08:23, 189F

05/05 08:37, 1周前 , 190F
人員調度爛爆 有什好護航的
05/05 08:37, 190F

05/05 08:42, 1周前 , 191F
旅湖的BS、我疼、我哥後來沒比較好啊
05/05 08:42, 191F

05/05 08:43, 1周前 , 192F
拿馬龍跟火腿比是不是搞錯了什麼
05/05 08:43, 192F

05/05 08:43, 1周前 , 193F
Malone至少很挺自家球員
05/05 08:43, 193F

05/05 08:43, 1周前 , 194F
暫停時什麼戰術就沒下達滿糟糕的
05/05 08:43, 194F

05/05 08:44, 1周前 , 195F
應變能力遭的教練 被金塊逆轉三場
05/05 08:44, 195F

05/05 08:45, 1周前 , 196F
Ham是有戰術素養的
05/05 08:45, 196F

05/05 08:45, 1周前 , 197F
不過他爽不爽用戰術又是另外一回事XD
05/05 08:45, 197F

05/05 08:45, 1周前 , 198F
之前不是有一篇大家不是說三年換一個教練還好嗎
05/05 08:45, 198F

05/05 08:46, 1周前 , 199F
像是horn chicago打到金塊痛點
05/05 08:46, 199F

05/05 08:46, 1周前 , 200F
結果在金塊拆招前,Ham就自己把這個戰術雪藏了
05/05 08:46, 200F

05/05 08:47, 1周前 , 201F
因為扯到湖人就有流量啊
05/05 08:47, 201F

05/05 08:51, 1周前 , 202F
NBA總教練學燉雞湯很重要.... 燉不好至少要學好讀
05/05 08:51, 202F

05/05 08:51, 1周前 , 203F
空氣和控制媒體上的公關說話,火腿這點沒學好,反
05/05 08:51, 203F

05/05 08:51, 1周前 , 204F
駁AD的那次發言很令人傻眼
05/05 08:51, 204F

05/05 08:53, 1周前 , 205F
火腿到底惹毛了幾個球員啊
05/05 08:53, 205F

05/05 09:33, 1周前 , 206F
在湖人教練就是免洗的
05/05 09:33, 206F

05/05 09:34, 1周前 , 207F
沒差,錢要夠多就行了
05/05 09:34, 207F

05/05 09:43, 1周前 , 208F
看到第一線球員要挑戰
05/05 09:43, 208F

05/05 09:43, 1周前 , 209F
教練還在那邊不給或是猶豫
05/05 09:43, 209F

05/05 09:43, 1周前 , 210F
就能判斷不會帶心了
05/05 09:43, 210F

05/05 10:21, 1周前 , 211F
說不定是靠大家扛,火腿才有這戰績,未來會驗證
05/05 10:21, 211F

05/05 10:33, 1周前 , 212F
首屆賽季中的比賽
05/05 10:33, 212F

05/05 11:32, 1周前 , 213F
沒事,只要有錢一定有人願意幹個1,2年領3年的錢的
05/05 11:32, 213F

05/05 12:19, 1周前 , 214F
別忘了之前第四節大比分逆轉快艇是因為老詹否決他
05/05 12:19, 214F

05/05 12:19, 1周前 , 215F
才拿下勝利的
05/05 12:19, 215F

05/05 14:17, 1周前 , 216F
亂噴AD真的是最後一根稻草
05/05 14:17, 216F

05/05 14:17, 1周前 , 217F
讓人看出他連雞湯都臭酸掉了
05/05 14:17, 217F

05/05 14:17, 1周前 , 218F
要不是AD每場都打的跟歐肥一樣能每場都領先金塊?
05/05 14:17, 218F

05/05 14:17, 1周前 , 219F
能讓你在那邊大言不慚?
05/05 14:17, 219F

05/05 15:14, 1周前 , 220F
弄清楚有沒有皇子緣
05/05 15:14, 220F

05/05 16:56, 1周前 , 221F
也可以考慮直接不請教練啊,又沒規定一定要教練
05/05 16:56, 221F

05/05 18:53, 1周前 , 222F
要嘴就算了 你嘴一個系列賽最扛的球員超級奇怪
05/05 18:53, 222F

05/05 21:19, 1周前 , 223F
姆斯就...
05/05 21:19, 223F
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