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[花邊] 火箭仍然對Jalen Green有信心

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https://reurl.cc/EVD2b0 講火箭暑假的內容，只摘要Green跟交易的部分 這段是講火箭的交易可能時順便提Green的所以我直接往下就帶到那段 Despite the recent heartache, the mission for the Rockets extends well beyond one team in the playoffs. They not only want to build a championship team, but also one with a lengthy window to contend. And while there was significant disappointment with the loss to the Warriors, the belief remains that this group, with enough player development, could grow into a title contender. 儘管最近的失利令人心碎，但火箭隊的目標遠不僅僅是季後賽中的某一支球隊。他們不僅想 打造一支具備爭冠實力的隊伍，更希望能擁有一個長期的爭冠窗口。輸給勇士隊令人失望 ，但球隊仍相信，只要球員發展得當，這批年輕人有潛力成長為真正的冠軍爭奪者。 That’s where it gets complicated. Depending on how these next few months play out, star NBA players like the Milwaukee Bucks’ Giannis Antetokounmpo, Phoenix Suns’ Kevin Durant and New Orleans Pelicans’ Zion Williamson might be on the market. And that list could grow. While Durant is widely seen as the most attainable of that group, and he is known to be very interested in playing in Houston, team sources said the Rockets still have significant reservations about that possible partnership, in large part, because Durant’s age (36) would be so out of sync with their younger timeline. It’s worth noting that previous talks between the teams about Durant, team sources said, were initiated by the Suns. The Rockets have previously held serious interest in the Suns’ Devin Booker, but team sources said that is no longer the case. Not only do team officials still have faith in Jalen Green, who is five years younger than Booker and $66 million cheaper over the next three seasons, but also Booker’s struggles last season shifted the thinking on this front. As for Williamson, who has spent the majority of his first six seasons falling short of expectations while experiencing health issues along the way, team sources said the Rockets see him as too risky. 但事情變得複雜了。接下來幾個月的發展將決定許多事，例如密爾瓦基公鹿的Giannis Antetokounmpo、鳳凰城太陽的Kevin Durant，以及紐奧良鵜鶘的Zion Williamson等NBA 明星球員可能會進入交易市場，而且這份名單可能還會繼續擴大。 有機會網羅這些等級的球星，對火箭來說是一個關鍵的十字路口。火箭擁有豐富的選秀籌 碼與年輕球員，是升級陣容、補進真正球星的絕佳位置。但他們會選擇冒險一搏、即使代 價可能是犧牲一位或多位年輕新星?還是堅持耐心發展、不讓奪冠時程被加速的誘惑動搖 ? 儘管Durant被視為這幾位球星中最有可能被交易的，而且據了解他本人對於為火箭效力非 常感興趣，但球隊內部訊息透露，火箭對這段合作仍有明顯保留，主要原因在於Durant已 經36歲，與球隊年輕化的陣容時程不符。值得一提的是，根據消息來源指出，過去雙方 關於Durant的交易對話，是由太陽隊方面主動提出的。 火箭過去曾對太陽的Devin Booker抱有強烈興趣，但消息人士表示，如今情況已不同。火 箭高層仍對Jalen Green保持信心——他不但比Booker年輕五歲，未來三季薪資也便宜 66M，而且Booker上季的掙扎表現也讓球隊改變了想法。至於Zion Williamson， 火箭認為他在前六個球季中大多未能達成預期，且健康狀況持續成疑，因此認為風險過高 。 That brings us to Antetokounmpo. Of all the possibilities this summer might bring, the idea of the “Greek Freak” donning a Rockets jersey is seen as the most intriguing within the organization. The cost most certainly would be exorbitant, with a collection of draft picks, veterans to make the money work and a young talent or two likely to be part of the package. And because of how Antetokounmpo best operates, as a primary playmaker and a hub of the offense, the prospect of him playing alongside Alperen engün in the frontcourt — if he wasn’t dealt — would come with its challenges. But not only is Antetokounmpo widely considered one of the league’s top three players, but also he’s still young enough at 30 that the runway for a Rockets future would be long. 這也讓我們接著談到Antetokounmpo。 在今年夏天可能出現的各種選項中，隊內普遍認為「希臘怪物」穿上火箭球衣的畫面最令 人興奮。要交易來他，代價肯定非常高昂，可能會包括多枚選秀籤、為了薪資配平而加 入的老將，以及一兩位年輕潛力球員。而由於Antetokounmpo的最佳打法是擔任進攻核心 與主要持球者，若與Alperen Sengun共處前場——假設Sengun沒有被納入交易——會面臨 一些戰術挑戰。不過，Antetokounmpo被廣泛視為聯盟前三的球星之一，而且他目前只 有30歲，還足夠年輕，未來仍有很長的爭冠視野。 But as Rockets general manager Rafael Stone made clear during exit interviews, there is confidence in this roster even if they don’t go star-chasing. Thompson, in particular, is seen as a foundational piece and special two-way talent who is just scratching the surface of how good he can be. engün took a major step forward this season in making his first All-Star Game, and he is expected to get even better. The Rockets remain high on others, too, from Smith to Tari Eason and their little-used No. 3 pick in last year’s draft, Reed Sheppard. 不過，正如火箭總管Rafael Stone在球季結束後的訪談中所強調的，就算不去追逐大牌 球星，球隊對於現有陣容也依然充滿信心。特別是Thompson，被視為未來的基石與潛力極 高的雙能型球員，才剛剛開始展現自己的能力。而Sengun本季入選明星賽，表現大幅進 步，球隊相信他仍有進一步提升的空間。球隊對其他人也抱持高度評價，從Jabari Smith 到Tari Eason，甚至包括去年選秀中幾乎未上場的榜眼新秀Reed Sheppard。 As it relates to Green, whose struggles against the Warriors were widely seen as a red flag when it came to his Rockets future, the internal view is quite different. As the Rockets see it, the Warriors’ choice to eliminate Green on the offensive end with double-teams and blitzes should have been punished to a far greater degree by his teammates. In that sense, there was a shared fault there that they’ll all grow from going forward. 至於Jalen Green，儘管他在對勇士的系列賽表現不佳，外界對他的未來產生疑慮，但火 箭內部的看法並不相同。在他們看來，勇士選擇以雙人包夾和快攻壓迫Green進攻端，其 實其他隊友應該要能更有效的懲罰勇士，因此這不完全是Green一人的責任，而是一 整個團隊的共同學習機會。 In the short term, the Rockets will need to address the status of two players whose impact in the playoffs was pivotal: VanVleet, who agreed to push back a decision on a $44.9 million team option to June 29, and veteran big man Steven Adams, who will be a free agent. “We’re in the business of people,” Stone said. “They’re unpredictable. If we trade for a player, assuming that player will be the same player in our environment that they were in the last one, that’s not always the case. You have to make the best choices you can. But Plan A has always been to develop our current group and hope that we can be good enough within it. “On that front, we improved, and I’m very happy with that level of improvement.” 短期來看，火箭需要釐清兩位在季後賽中扮演關鍵角色的球員的未來：VanVleet——他已 同意將是否執行價值44.9M的球隊選項延後至6月29日決定，以及即將成為自由球員 的老將中鋒Steven Adams。 Stone表示：「我們做的是跟人有關的工作，人是不可預測的。如果我們交易來一位球員 ，並假設他在我們這裡會跟在前一支球隊一樣表現，那通常並不準確。我們只能盡可能做 出最好的決定。但我們的A計畫一直以來都是培養現有的球員群，並希望能靠他們成長至 具競爭力的水準。」 「在這一點上，我們確實有進步，我對這樣的成長感到非常滿意。」 重點就是 1.火箭對現有年輕人有信心 2.想要打造長期衝冠的球隊，即使會考慮直上明星球員，但也會重視時間軸配不配合 例如KD看起來是天菜，但還在考慮，雙方的交易商討中太陽是主動帶貨推銷的那方 3.短期內是先解決FVV跟Admas的續約問題 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 133.106.136.168 (日本) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1747057265.A.509.html
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05/12 21:43, 3小時前 , 1F
問題是如果要KD，JG跟阿門至少要出掉一個吧
05/12 21:43, 1F
Amen是非賣品 不管什麼交易都凹不到的那種 神棍跟其他人反而沒那麼確定 但Amen是確認被當基石的
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05/12 21:43, 3小時前 , 2F
季後賽過後交易價值下降
05/12 21:43, 2F
※ 編輯: dragon803 (133.106.136.168 日本), 05/12/2025 21:44:36
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05/12 21:45, 3小時前 , 3F
我也覺得談到阿門就掛電話了 神棍可以交易亞尼斯
05/12 21:45, 3F
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05/12 21:46, 3小時前 , 4F
正常，畢竟第一年季後賽，但有好的包裹也不是不能動
05/12 21:46, 4F
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05/12 21:48, 3小時前 , 5F
KD和字母都是很酷的東西，確定不拿去換換看嗎？
05/12 21:48, 5F
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05/12 21:49, 3小時前 , 6F
阿門真的是非賣品嗎? 如果練不出投射 現在可能是價
05/12 21:49, 6F
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05/12 21:49, 3小時前 , 7F
值最高的時候 當然KD肯定不值啦 書人都要考慮了
05/12 21:49, 7F
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05/12 21:50, 3小時前 , 8F
看到今年的77，我已經不相信什麼非賣品了QQ
05/12 21:50, 8F
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05/12 21:50, 3小時前 , 9F
如果是字母哥，火箭應該沒有非賣品
05/12 21:50, 9F
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05/12 21:51, 3小時前 , 10F
VV跟鴨蛋才是你火這次能贏勇士的關鍵
05/12 21:51, 10F
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05/12 21:51, 3小時前 , 11F
如果亞尼斯是27歲就可以 但他31歲了
05/12 21:51, 11F
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05/12 21:51, 3小時前 , 12F
Antetokounmpo is 30 and going into his 13th
05/12 21:51, 12F
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05/12 21:52, 2小時前 , 13F
1994年12月6日
05/12 21:52, 13F
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05/12 21:52, 2小時前 , 14F
裡面陣容那麼年輕 突然加速換老將拼溫鬧 算了吧
05/12 21:52, 14F
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05/12 21:52, 2小時前 , 15F
對字母哥非賣品的，大概是77，AD，SGA，斑馬這種
05/12 21:52, 15F
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05/12 21:52, 2小時前 , 16F
阿門沒投射價值還是不會低，那個防守能力太優秀了
05/12 21:52, 16F
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05/12 21:52, 2小時前 , 17F
小心最後跟太陽一樣
05/12 21:52, 17F
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05/12 21:53, 2小時前 , 18F
看幾歲的亞尼斯
05/12 21:53, 18F
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05/12 21:56, 2小時前 , 19F
阿門太有潛力了啊 而且進攻也不是完全沒機會長起來
05/12 21:56, 19F
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05/12 21:56, 2小時前 , 20F
有信心大概是有信心可以交易出去
05/12 21:56, 20F
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05/12 21:57, 2小時前 , 21F
阿門成長的很快
05/12 21:57, 21F
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05/12 21:57, 2小時前 , 22F
火箭還有一個Eason，不覺得Amen一定是非賣品
05/12 21:57, 22F
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05/12 21:58, 2小時前 , 23F
有很好的交易目標 如字母哥 要出阿門我覺得還是得出
05/12 21:58, 23F
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05/12 21:58, 2小時前 , 24F
換KD 火箭還有籤
05/12 21:58, 24F
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05/12 21:58, 2小時前 , 25F
不然能想像阿門跟字母哥一起先發登場嗎
05/12 21:58, 25F
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05/12 22:02, 2小時前 , 26F
蠻可怕的阿，一內一外防守超強
05/12 22:02, 26F
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05/12 22:03, 2小時前 , 27F
不要看他說什麼要看他做什麼
05/12 22:03, 27F
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05/12 22:05, 2小時前 , 28F
阿門才第二年 打季後賽就比其他學長還出色了 別忘
05/12 22:05, 28F
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05/12 22:05, 2小時前 , 29F
記他今年賽季有一大半還在替補欸 是jsj受傷讓他遞
05/12 22:05, 29F
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05/12 22:05, 2小時前 , 30F
補 才有時間打出身價的 阿門跟伊森真的是火箭真正
05/12 22:05, 30F
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05/12 22:05, 2小時前 , 31F
的未來
05/12 22:05, 31F
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05/12 22:06, 2小時前 , 32F
畢竟上喬下柯嘛
05/12 22:06, 32F
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05/12 22:11, 2小時前 , 33F
當然是出蓚ngün避免爆發希土戰爭。
05/12 22:11, 33F
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05/12 22:11, 2小時前 , 34F
對火箭來說阿門快要跟斑馬同等級了...
05/12 22:11, 34F
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05/12 22:12, 2小時前 , 35F
Eason天賦跟阿門還是差滿多的...更別提出勤率了
05/12 22:12, 35F
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05/12 22:13, 2小時前 , 36F
就算對象是字母火箭也不會出阿門的...
05/12 22:13, 36F
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05/12 22:16, 2小時前 , 37F
JG今年的確就繳學費啦 好歹骰成功一場出乎意料了
05/12 22:16, 37F
還有 43 則推文
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05/12 22:42, 2小時前 , 81F
05/12 22:42, 81F
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05/12 22:42, 2小時前 , 82F
那騎士吧...
05/12 22:42, 82F
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05/12 22:42, 2小時前 , 83F
傳說傳到騎士
05/12 22:42, 83F
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05/12 22:43, 2小時前 , 84F
傳錯
05/12 22:43, 84F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 85F
火箭不要凹單啊 想爭冠還是趁早認賠脫手吧 先發四
05/12 22:55, 85F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 86F
年最多球權開火權都沒啥進步了 難道接下來35M繼續
05/12 22:55, 86F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 87F
把他當主力養就會突然不一樣!? 好歹考慮一下他那不
05/12 22:55, 87F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 88F
高的球商 不佳的傳球視野品質 還有對抗性不怎好的
05/12 22:55, 88F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 89F
身板 骰子般的手感 閃亮亮的指甲油 把它拿去換適合
05/12 22:55, 89F
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05/12 22:55, 1小時前 , 90F
的資產回來比較實在
05/12 22:55, 90F
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05/12 22:57, 1小時前 , 91F
我覺得他要把無球的技能練好，看他打球要他變成像哈
05/12 22:57, 91F
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05/12 22:57, 1小時前 , 92F
登那樣變雙能衛不太可能。但要是他持球和無球都能練
05/12 22:57, 92F
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05/12 22:57, 1小時前 , 93F
得不錯，再配一個會組織的人，就能最大化他的得分能
05/12 22:57, 93F
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05/12 22:57, 1小時前 , 94F
力
05/12 22:57, 94F
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05/12 22:58, 1小時前 , 95F
那你們就自己留著吧
05/12 22:58, 95F
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05/12 22:59, 1小時前 , 96F
火箭的時間線可以等Sheppard練起來嗎？
05/12 22:59, 96F
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05/12 23:00, 1小時前 , 97F
Sheppard現在要怎麼練，在板凳運球嗎
05/12 23:00, 97F
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05/12 23:00, 1小時前 , 98F
抬價出貨
05/12 23:00, 98F
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05/12 23:00, 1小時前 , 99F
時間寧可給白魔跟sheppard好過給JG
05/12 23:00, 99F
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05/12 23:02, 1小時前 , 100F
蝦趴得換隊慢慢養
05/12 23:02, 100F
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05/12 23:03, 1小時前 , 101F
都打到西2了哪有時間等Sheppard練，今年又一個樂透
05/12 23:03, 101F
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05/12 23:05, 1小時前 , 102F
如果sheppard都沒時間練了 那更不用期望JG了
05/12 23:05, 102F
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05/12 23:07, 1小時前 , 103F
JG例行賽還行吧...他是季後賽打差了，Sheppard例賽
05/12 23:07, 103F
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05/12 23:07, 1小時前 , 104F
都打不明白
05/12 23:07, 104F
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05/12 23:24, 1小時前 , 105F
上喬下科
05/12 23:24, 105F
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05/12 23:28, 1小時前 , 106F
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05/12 23:28, 106F
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05/12 23:29, 1小時前 , 107F
可是Sheppard某次對上雷霆不是打得不錯？
05/12 23:29, 107F
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05/12 23:29, 1小時前 , 108F
要是真的沒空間養他，就快交易他吧
05/12 23:29, 108F
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05/12 23:30, 1小時前 , 109F
指甲油還是趕快出掉吧 不是核心的料 神棍季後賽也打
05/12 23:30, 109F
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05/12 23:31, 1小時前 , 110F
得不算好 但影響力還是指甲油好幾倍
05/12 23:31, 110F
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05/12 23:50, 1小時前 , 111F
前幾季Green也是非賣品 現在是沒人要XD
05/12 23:50, 111F
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05/13 00:00, 51分鐘前 , 112F
阿門絕對是非賣品好嗎
05/13 00:00, 112F
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05/13 00:02, 49分鐘前 , 113F
SP跟水行俠 換正版苦命
05/13 00:02, 113F
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05/13 00:08, 43分鐘前 , 114F
要換也是拿指甲油換 才不會出水行俠
05/13 00:08, 114F
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05/13 00:14, 37分鐘前 , 115F
水行俠一定要留，太好用了
05/13 00:14, 115F
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05/13 00:16, 35分鐘前 , 116F
若不是太貴，綠乾脆練無球和外線轉3D好了
05/13 00:16, 116F
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05/13 00:24, 27分鐘前 , 117F
是已經不好賣了吧 看能不能打回身價
05/13 00:24, 117F
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05/13 00:38, 13分鐘前 , 118F
欸不是水行俠是FA你要怎麼換.....-_-
05/13 00:38, 118F
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05/13 00:40, 11分鐘前 , 119F
不管怎麼說字母明年是32歲領57.6M...我幹嘛拿還有兩
05/13 00:40, 119F
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05/13 00:40, 11分鐘前 , 120F
年童工合約的阿門跟你換...時間軸又對不上
05/13 00:40, 120F
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