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[外絮] Michael Beasley談為何LBJ是GOAT

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來源： https://reurl.cc/YY5kYX 作者： Gautam Varier 內容： Michael Beasley On Why LeBron James Is The GOAT: "With Jordan, They Don't Talk About The Negativity" Michael Beasley 談為何 LeBron James 是史上最偉大球員：「關於 Jordan，人們從不 提他的負面事蹟」 Michael Beasley has chimed in on the LeBron James-Michael Jordan debate. Michael Beasley 也加入了 LeBron James 與 Michael Jordan 誰是 GOAT 的辯論。 https://i.imgur.com/GatlXj3.jpeg
Michael Beasley played alongside LeBron James on the Miami Heat and Los Angele s Lakers, and he believes his former teammate is the greatest of all time. Dur ing an appearance on the Common Denominator podcast Beasley was asked to pick between James and Michael Jordan and went with the former without hesitation. Michael Beasley 曾與 LeBron James 在邁阿密熱火和洛杉磯湖人隊當過隊友，他認為這 位前隊友是史上最偉大的球員。在接受《Common Denominator》播客節目訪問時，Beasle y 被問到要在 James 和 Michael Jordan 之間做出選擇時，他毫不猶豫地選擇了前者。 "I start with the one everybody know, the points, the longevity, all that," Be asley said. "With Jordan, they don't talk about the negativity, they don't tal k about the playoff losses, they don't talk about the fact that he actively so ught out Dennis Rodman, who was already a two-time champion. 「我從大家最熟的講起，得分、職涯長度這些數據，」Beasley 說。「至於 Jordan，人 們從不談他的負面事蹟、不談他的季後賽失利，也不談他主動找來已經拿過兩次冠軍的 D ennis Rodman 這件事。」 "No shot to Jordan because he's Jordan, but they don't tell the story of him h aving to learn the championship pedigree, Beasley stated. "LeBron James gave u s, or has given us, the opportunity to be witnesses. We watched his good, his bad, we watched his ups, his downs so long, and he's been so great that we don 't have anything to say. 「這不是在抨擊 Jordan，因為他畢竟是 Jordan，但人們不會講他學習培養冠軍氣質的過 程，」Beasley 表示。「LeBron James 給了我們一個機會，或者說他至今仍讓我們成為 見證者。我們見證了他的好、他的壞、他的起伏長達這麼多年，而他始終那麼偉大，以至 於我們已經說不出什麼了。」 "So we now talk about his son," Beasley continued. That's my personal argument . My stat argument is LeBron James ... [put] every player's stats on the board and take everybody name off and now we play a Easter egg hunt. We got to find five eggs. 「所以現在我們才會開始談論他的兒子，」Beasley 接著說。「那是我個人的觀點。若講 數據面，我的論點是這樣，把所有球員的數據貼在牆上，不標名字，然後玩復活節找彩蛋 的遊戲，我們要找出五顆蛋。」 "If we look for the best point guard, LeBron James will be somewhere top five, his stats will be somewhere in the top five," Beasley added. "Look for the be st two, three, four, five, LeBron James, you'll never see his stats no lower t han sixth, seventh on all five of those. Sixth man, all of that." 「如果我們在找最強控球後衛，LeBron James 的數據會排進前五，」Beasley 補充說。 「如果你要找最好的二號、三號、四號、五號位，LeBron James 的數據也從沒掉出過第 六、第七名以外。第六人、其他角色也一樣。」 Beasley added that Jordan also had the fortune of not having to deal with soci al media. He believes that James has had to deal with so much more negativity and is amazed that he is still delivering the way he has. Beasley 還說，Jordan 很幸運沒經歷過社群媒體的時代。他認為 James 承受了更多的負 面聲音，卻仍能維持巔峰表現，令人驚嘆。 The intangible aspects aside, James has built up a solid case to be regarded a s the best ever. The 40-year-old has won four titles, four Finals MVPs, four M VPs, a scoring title, and an assists title in his career. 撇開那些無法量化的因素，James 已經建立了強而有力的案例，可以被視為史上最佳。這 位40歲的球員已經贏得了四次總冠軍、四次總決賽MVP、四次年度MVP、一次得分王和一次 助攻王。 James is also the NBA's all-time leading scorer (42,184 points) and ranks four th in assists (11,584). He has the most All-Star and All-NBA selections as wel l, with 21 each. It's a phenomenal resume, but is it better than Jordan's? James 目前是NBA歷史得分王（42,184分），助攻數則排名第四（11,584次）。他也是全 明星與年度最佳陣容入選次數最多的球員，各有21次。他的履歷堪稱華麗，但是否比 Jor dan 更出色？ Jordan won six titles, six Finals MVPs, five MVPs, a DPOY, and 10 scoring titl es in his career. He made 14 All-Star and 11 All-NBA teams along the way. Jord an also made the All-Defensive First Team nine times, tied for the most in his tory. Jordan 生涯共拿下六次冠軍、六次總決賽MVP、五次年度MVP、一座年度最佳防守球員以 及十次得分王。他總共入選14次全明星與11次年度最佳陣容，還曾九度入選年度最佳防守 第一隊，這個紀錄是歷史上最多的紀錄之一。 Considering Jordan only played 15 seasons compared to 22 for James, he is goin g to be far behind in terms of stats and certain accolades. The Chicago Bulls icon has still won more titles, though, and that's all that matters in some ci rcles. 考慮到 Jordan 僅打了15個球季，而 James 打了22個球季，兩人在數據與某些獎項上的 差距會很大。不過，這位芝加哥公牛的傳奇仍然贏得了更多冠軍，而對某些人來說，冠軍 就是一切。 While more and more from today's generation, like Beasley, are siding with Jam es on the debate, a lot of the old heads aren't budging. Kenny Smith stated th at James will not touch the Jordan fiber. He claimed that defense is the separ ating point when it comes to them. 雖然越來越多像 Beasley 這樣的新世代球員站在 James 這邊，但很多老一輩的球迷仍舊 不為所動。Kenny Smith 就表示，James 觸及不了 Jordan 的層次。他認為兩人之間的最 大差異就是防守。 We did a full comparison of Jordan and James' careers, and the former came out on top. It wasn't particularly close either. 我們也對 Jordan 和 James 的職業生涯做了完整比較，結果是 Jordan 勝出，且差距不 算小。 心得： 富保集團喜歡你的言論. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 212.102.42.194 (香港) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1748411331.A.222.html
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05/28 13:49, 1天前 , 1F
還沒完喔 好膩
05/28 13:49, 1F
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05/28 13:50, 1天前 , 2F
詹國策要幾篇洗記憶
05/28 13:50, 2F
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05/28 13:50, 1天前 , 3F
無聊 +1
05/28 13:50, 3F
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05/28 13:50, 1天前 , 4F
確實 提到喬丹只會一昧神化
05/28 13:50, 4F
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05/28 13:50, 1天前 , 5F
無聊
05/28 13:50, 5F
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05/28 13:50, 1天前 , 6F
ID是真愛
05/28 13:50, 6F
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05/28 13:51, 1天前 , 7F
沒球打的咖都愛吹山羌但巨星都吹喬丹 這就是差距
05/28 13:51, 7F
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05/28 13:51, 1天前 , 8F
詹國策+1
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05/28 13:51, 1天前 , 9F
這人比酸懂球嗎
05/28 13:51, 9F
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05/28 13:51, 1天前 , 10F
要幾篇
05/28 13:51, 10F
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05/28 13:51, 1天前 , 11F
484固定ID洗文啊
05/28 13:51, 11F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 12F
老喬自己都要開節目走下神壇了
05/28 13:52, 12F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 13F
不是 談談東西決好嗎
05/28 13:52, 13F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 14F
還來呀，沒空
05/28 13:52, 14F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 15F
www
05/28 13:52, 15F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 16F
而且是招黑式
05/28 13:52, 16F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 17F
喬在社群媒體時代只會更容易被激起鬥志吧
05/28 13:52, 17F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 18F
..
05/28 13:52, 18F
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05/28 13:52, 1天前 , 19F
被打臉的不夠欸
05/28 13:52, 19F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 20F
比場下 比兒子 再來比祖宗十八代XD
05/28 13:53, 20F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 21F
因為你只是Beasley 不是Jordan
05/28 13:53, 21F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 22F
MB近幾年在哪打球阿 CBA不是超愛他的嗎
05/28 13:53, 22F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 23F
詹迷:要幾篇? 結果無視富寶集團各種洗風向
05/28 13:53, 23F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 24F
可悲
05/28 13:53, 24F
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05/28 13:53, 1天前 , 25F
他在BIG 3圈錢
05/28 13:53, 25F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 26F
兩個論點都不堪一擊 Jordan沒奪冠之前被酸爆好嗎
05/28 13:54, 26F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 27F
喬丹是扛著輿論壓力走上神壇的
05/28 13:54, 27F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 28F
唉 逼斯利沒來上ptt 他說的東西這裡都討論完了
05/28 13:54, 28F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 29F
然後社群媒體更好笑 MJ當年被電視黑到爆 完全無法反
05/28 13:54, 29F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 30F
駁自辯
05/28 13:54, 30F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 31F
LBJ則是掌握輿論 權力大到可以叫人下架影片
05/28 13:54, 31F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 32F
這是榜眼那個Beasley嗎？
05/28 13:54, 32F
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05/28 13:54, 1天前 , 33F
詹國策 XD
05/28 13:54, 33F
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05/28 13:55, 1天前 , 34F
小蟲不是被波波隨便甩手丟掉的嗎 ==
05/28 13:55, 34F
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05/28 13:55, 1天前 , 35F
講的好像當時小蟲人人搶著要一樣 ==
05/28 13:55, 35F
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05/28 13:57, 1天前 , 36F
真的，拿找馬刺小蟲來說嘴就是洗記憶了
05/28 13:57, 36F
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05/28 13:57, 1天前 , 37F
喬丹就是幸運活在網路未普及的年代 不然他場外好賭
05/28 13:57, 37F
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05/28 13:57, 1天前 , 38F
球場暴君這一面絕對被噴爛
05/28 13:57, 38F
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05/28 13:58, 1天前 , 39F
這人知道自己在說甚麼嗎?真奇怪的邏輯
05/28 13:58, 39F
還有 442 則推文
還有 1 段內文
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05/28 21:10, 1天前 , 482F
擊敗? 輸了卻只想抱腿，被人形容LBJ=靠投機拿好成績
05/28 21:10, 482F
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05/28 21:12, 1天前 , 483F
你有談過LBJ的負面事跡?
05/28 21:12, 483F
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05/28 21:18, 1天前 , 484F
這波站Beasley MB至少是球員 眼光肯定是比板上瞎挺
05/28 21:18, 484F
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05/28 21:18, 1天前 , 485F
MJ的鄉民好
05/28 21:18, 485F
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05/28 21:23, 1天前 , 486F
看到這幾天臉被打爛的羌寶只敢把這篇當唯一的浮木
05/28 21:23, 486F
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05/28 21:23, 1天前 , 487F
拼命透氣的模樣，真的是有夠舒服
05/28 21:23, 487F
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05/28 21:24, 1天前 , 488F
笑死 還在裝模作樣 也有球員挺MJ 你站過他們那邊嗎
05/28 21:24, 488F
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05/28 21:34, 23小時前 , 489F
還來啊
05/28 21:34, 489F
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05/28 22:11, 23小時前 , 490F
雜魚談雜魚
05/28 22:11, 490F
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05/28 22:13, 23小時前 , 491F
YH胡扯甚麼?挺MJ的球員更多，還都是名人堂且更大咖
05/28 22:13, 491F
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05/28 22:34, 22小時前 , 492F
詹黑來囉
05/28 22:34, 492F
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05/28 22:43, 22小時前 , 493F
物以類聚
05/28 22:43, 493F
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05/28 22:45, 22小時前 , 494F
笑死，MJ無時無刻不想著獲勝，沾黃則是都在想著刷
05/28 22:45, 494F
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05/28 22:45, 22小時前 , 495F
數據
05/28 22:45, 495F
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05/28 22:47, 22小時前 , 496F
MJ迷從來不覺得喇叭詹有沾到邊耶, 自high姆咪 XD
05/28 22:47, 496F
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05/28 22:48, 22小時前 , 497F
退休後誰還記得抱腿王
05/28 22:48, 497F
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05/28 22:50, 22小時前 , 498F
集負面暱稱於一身的山羌，讓NBA變難看的始祖
05/28 22:50, 498F
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05/28 23:02, 22小時前 , 499F
不重要的言論….mj 全球化無可取代
05/28 23:02, 499F
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05/28 23:05, 22小時前 , 500F
需要到處換隊組團才能拿4冠 這叫什麼goat?
05/28 23:05, 500F
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05/28 23:05, 22小時前 , 501F
在東區四處當人小弟跪舔才拿三冠，西區沒AD0輪，當A
05/28 23:05, 501F
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05/28 23:05, 22小時前 , 502F
D小弟奪一冠，這能當GOAT？
05/28 23:05, 502F
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05/28 23:06, 22小時前 , 503F
姆斯的第一冠還是一直打不贏受不了才轉隊組大團才
05/28 23:06, 503F
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05/28 23:06, 22小時前 , 504F
拿到的 這叫goat?
05/28 23:06, 504F
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05/28 23:51, 21小時前 , 505F
嗯嗯
05/28 23:51, 505F
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05/29 00:43, 20小時前 , 506F
胡扯
05/29 00:43, 506F
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05/29 01:23, 20小時前 , 507F
喬迷就只能講冠軍.得分王 結果其他都輸姆斯
05/29 01:23, 507F
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05/29 01:27, 20小時前 , 508F
喬丹快閃台灣的速度比姆斯快多了 完全看不上眼那種
05/29 01:27, 508F
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05/29 01:29, 20小時前 , 509F
笑死，不要打臉自己好嗎，說MJ找來羅德曼，那麼請
05/29 01:29, 509F
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05/29 01:29, 20小時前 , 510F
問老詹抱了幾條大腿了？
05/29 01:29, 510F
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05/29 01:30, 20小時前 , 511F
姆迷就只能講累積數據，結果其他都輸MJ
05/29 01:30, 511F
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05/29 02:38, 18小時前 , 512F
羌粉還真是盡得真傳，又雲又愛離題亂扯
05/29 02:38, 512F
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05/29 05:05, 16小時前 , 513F
姆斯現在連負面部分都要被洗成加分項了喔 XD
05/29 05:05, 513F
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05/29 06:53, 14小時前 , 514F
就一個邊緣球員在找詹幫忙罷了
05/29 06:53, 514F
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05/29 08:35, 12小時前 , 515F
邊緣球員的觀點 能死挺的也就姆咪
05/29 08:35, 515F
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05/29 08:56, 12小時前 , 516F
白癡一個
05/29 08:56, 516F
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05/29 11:11, 10小時前 , 517F
GOAT~~
05/29 11:11, 517F
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05/29 12:18, 9小時前 , 518F
我只看喬神的highlight
05/29 12:18, 518F
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05/29 12:44, 8小時前 , 519F
詹國策XD
05/29 12:44, 519F
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05/29 14:28, 7小時前 , 520F
中肯，只是很多人聽不進去
05/29 14:28, 520F
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05/29 14:47, 6小時前 , 521F
笑倒...被老喬打假的..然後用拿懶不辣JAMES來頂..
05/29 14:47, 521F
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