[花邊] Draymond Green回應LBJ戒指文化的看法
看板NBA (美國籃球)作者kakala99 (Fernando Torres #9)時間3小時前 (2025/06/21 15:04)推噓91(100推 9噓 136→)留言245則, 101人參與討論串1/2 (看更多)
Green and his podcast co-host Baron Davis discussed James' comments on the
latest episode of "The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis," where Davis
initially said he "definitely" agrees with James.
And while Green does as well, he shared a more thought-out response with a
big-picture perspective.
在最新一集《The Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis》播客中,Green與共同主持
人Baron Davis討論了James的這番話,Davis先表示,他「絕對」認同James的看法。
Green雖然也表示贊同,但他補充了一段更深層視角的觀點:
"I think ring culture took a big turn and came into play in large part due to
the success of the Golden State Warriors. What Bron was saying is that you
get guys like Stephen A. [Smith], and to me it felt like Stephen A. is
someone who talks a lot about rings, and you don't know what it takes to win
a ring because you've never won a ring. You don't understand because you've
never gone through it. And because you don't know how hard it is because
you've never gone through it, then you start using it to lessen the greatness
of some of the greats.
「我認為所謂的『戒指文化』之所以出現並成為主流,在很大程度上與金州勇士的成功有
關。LeBron想表達的是,你會看到像Stephen A. Smith這樣的媒體人整天把總冠軍戒指掛
在嘴邊,他們常以戒指來衡量球員價值,但他們根本不知道贏得一枚冠軍戒有多難,因為
他們從來沒有親身經歷過,正因為你不清楚這有多艱難,你就會開始用戒指來貶低某些偉
大球員的成就。」
"Is having a ring important? Of course. Does it add to legacies? Does it
stamp legacies? Absolutely. I'm not going to sit here and act like having a
ring or rings doesn't matter. It does matter. But it doesn't make [Charles]
Barkley less great than he was. It doesn't make Allen Iverson less great. I
think when people use it, they use it to dim the greatness, dim the light on
guys. And that's what I felt like Bron was getting at." To Green's point,
both Barkley and Iverson are Naismith Basketball Hall of Famers, 11-time NBA
All-Stars and one-time league MVPs.
「冠軍戒重要嗎?當然重要。它能為傳奇生涯加分嗎?能鞏固歷史地位嗎?毫無疑問絕對
能,我不會坐在這裡裝作戒指不重要的樣子,但這不代表Barkley就不夠偉大,也不代表
Allen Iverson的偉大會因此減少。我覺得有些人用戒指去貶低那些未曾奪冠球星的成就
,而這正是我覺得LeBron想表達的重點。」
In more recent times, players such as James Harden, Russell Westbrook and --
probably more than anyone --Chris Paul, have been scrutinized for never
getting over that hump of winning a championship.
"CP and James Harden, if they don't run into us [the Warriors], they probably
do win a championship," Green said. "Sometimes, that's just how the cookie
crumbles. But that don't mean those guys aren't great. That don't mean Chris
Paul isn't a winner. Chris Paul is a winner. There's so many things that have
to go right for you to win a championship.
"So to just lessen someone's greatness because of it, I think that's wrong.
Again, I'm not saying that having the rings don't matter. When I walk in a
room, I feel great about the four rings I have. But that does not lessen
someone else's greatness."
而近年來,包括James Harden、Russell Westbrook,甚至最常被提及的Chris Paul等球
員,也因未能奪冠而飽受質疑。
Green表示:「如果CP和Harden當年沒遇上我們,他們或許真的能贏下總冠軍。有時候成敗
就是差在這一點運氣。但這不代表這些人不偉大,更不代表Chris Paul不是贏家,他絕對
是個贏家。要贏得總冠軍,需要太多因素完美配合。」
「所以僅僅因為某人沒有奪冠就貶低他們的偉大,我認為是錯誤的。再次強調,我不是說
戒指不重要,當我走進房間時,我對自己的四枚冠軍戒非常自豪,但這並不會讓其他人的
偉大因此被抹煞。」
"There are more great players than great players that won rings," Davis said,
as Green agreed. "There are more great players who haven't won rings than
great players that have won rings. That's the way we got to look at it."
Davis接著說:「沒拿過冠軍的偉大球員,遠比拿過冠軍的偉大球員還要多。」
Green也表示認同:「歷史上偉大卻未曾奪冠的球員比那些擁有冠軍戒的偉大球員還要多
。我們該以這樣的角度來看待這件事。」
來源:https://reurl.cc/0K72Lb
嘴綠的觀點很中肯
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.109.40 (臺灣)
※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1750489480.A.EEC.html
推
06/21 15:09,
3小時前
, 1F
06/21 15:09, 1F
推
06/21 15:10,
3小時前
, 2F
06/21 15:10, 2F
推
06/21 15:11,
3小時前
, 3F
06/21 15:11, 3F
→
06/21 15:12,
3小時前
, 4F
06/21 15:12, 4F
推
06/21 15:15,
3小時前
, 5F
06/21 15:15, 5F
推
06/21 15:17,
3小時前
, 6F
06/21 15:17, 6F
推
06/21 15:17,
3小時前
, 7F
06/21 15:17, 7F
→
06/21 15:17,
3小時前
, 8F
06/21 15:17, 8F
→
06/21 15:17,
3小時前
, 9F
06/21 15:17, 9F
→
06/21 15:18,
3小時前
, 10F
06/21 15:18, 10F
→
06/21 15:18,
3小時前
, 11F
06/21 15:18, 11F
→
06/21 15:18,
3小時前
, 12F
06/21 15:18, 12F
推
06/21 15:19,
3小時前
, 13F
06/21 15:19, 13F
→
06/21 15:20,
3小時前
, 14F
06/21 15:20, 14F
→
06/21 15:20,
3小時前
, 15F
06/21 15:20, 15F
→
06/21 15:21,
3小時前
, 16F
06/21 15:21, 16F
推
06/21 15:21,
3小時前
, 17F
06/21 15:21, 17F
噓
06/21 15:22,
3小時前
, 18F
06/21 15:22, 18F
推
06/21 15:22,
3小時前
, 19F
06/21 15:22, 19F
→
06/21 15:23,
3小時前
, 20F
06/21 15:23, 20F
→
06/21 15:24,
3小時前
, 21F
06/21 15:24, 21F
→
06/21 15:25,
3小時前
, 22F
06/21 15:25, 22F
推
06/21 15:26,
3小時前
, 23F
06/21 15:26, 23F
推
06/21 15:28,
3小時前
, 24F
06/21 15:28, 24F
推
06/21 15:29,
3小時前
, 25F
06/21 15:29, 25F
推
06/21 15:29,
3小時前
, 26F
06/21 15:29, 26F
→
06/21 15:29,
3小時前
, 27F
06/21 15:29, 27F
推
06/21 15:29,
3小時前
, 28F
06/21 15:29, 28F
推
06/21 15:30,
3小時前
, 29F
06/21 15:30, 29F
→
06/21 15:30,
3小時前
, 30F
06/21 15:30, 30F
噓
06/21 15:30,
3小時前
, 31F
06/21 15:30, 31F
推
06/21 15:31,
3小時前
, 32F
06/21 15:31, 32F
推
06/21 15:31,
3小時前
, 33F
06/21 15:31, 33F
→
06/21 15:31,
3小時前
, 34F
06/21 15:31, 34F
→
06/21 15:31,
3小時前
, 35F
06/21 15:31, 35F
推
06/21 15:32,
3小時前
, 36F
06/21 15:32, 36F
推
06/21 15:32,
3小時前
, 37F
06/21 15:32, 37F
推
06/21 15:32,
3小時前
, 38F
06/21 15:32, 38F
→
06/21 15:32,
3小時前
, 39F
06/21 15:32, 39F
還有 166 則推文
→
06/21 17:35,
1小時前
, 206F
06/21 17:35, 206F
→
06/21 17:36,
1小時前
, 207F
06/21 17:36, 207F
→
06/21 17:36,
1小時前
, 208F
06/21 17:36, 208F
→
06/21 17:36,
1小時前
, 209F
06/21 17:36, 209F
推
06/21 17:39,
1小時前
, 210F
06/21 17:39, 210F
推
06/21 17:41,
1小時前
, 211F
06/21 17:41, 211F
推
06/21 17:54,
52分鐘前
, 212F
06/21 17:54, 212F
推
06/21 18:03,
43分鐘前
, 213F
06/21 18:03, 213F
→
06/21 18:04,
42分鐘前
, 214F
06/21 18:04, 214F
→
06/21 18:04,
42分鐘前
, 215F
06/21 18:04, 215F
→
06/21 18:05,
41分鐘前
, 216F
06/21 18:05, 216F
推
06/21 18:08,
38分鐘前
, 217F
06/21 18:08, 217F
→
06/21 18:08,
38分鐘前
, 218F
06/21 18:08, 218F
→
06/21 18:08,
38分鐘前
, 219F
06/21 18:08, 219F
→
06/21 18:08,
38分鐘前
, 220F
06/21 18:08, 220F
→
06/21 18:08,
38分鐘前
, 221F
06/21 18:08, 221F
推
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 222F
06/21 18:22, 222F
推
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 223F
06/21 18:22, 223F
→
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 224F
06/21 18:22, 224F
推
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 225F
06/21 18:22, 225F
→
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 226F
06/21 18:22, 226F
→
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 227F
06/21 18:22, 227F
→
06/21 18:22,
24分鐘前
, 228F
06/21 18:22, 228F
推
06/21 18:25,
21分鐘前
, 229F
06/21 18:25, 229F
推
06/21 18:25,
21分鐘前
, 230F
06/21 18:25, 230F
→
06/21 18:25,
21分鐘前
, 231F
06/21 18:25, 231F
推
06/21 18:25,
21分鐘前
, 232F
06/21 18:25, 232F
→
06/21 18:26,
20分鐘前
, 233F
06/21 18:26, 233F
→
06/21 18:26,
20分鐘前
, 234F
06/21 18:26, 234F
→
06/21 18:26,
20分鐘前
, 235F
06/21 18:26, 235F
→
06/21 18:26,
20分鐘前
, 236F
06/21 18:26, 236F
→
06/21 18:26,
20分鐘前
, 237F
06/21 18:26, 237F
→
06/21 18:27,
19分鐘前
, 238F
06/21 18:27, 238F
→
06/21 18:27,
19分鐘前
, 239F
06/21 18:27, 239F
→
06/21 18:27,
19分鐘前
, 240F
06/21 18:27, 240F
→
06/21 18:28,
18分鐘前
, 241F
06/21 18:28, 241F
→
06/21 18:28,
18分鐘前
, 242F
06/21 18:28, 242F
→
06/21 18:28,
18分鐘前
, 243F
06/21 18:28, 243F
推
06/21 18:32,
14分鐘前
, 244F
06/21 18:32, 244F
推
06/21 18:32,
14分鐘前
, 245F
06/21 18:32, 245F
討論串 (同標題文章)
完整討論串 (本文為第 1 之 2 篇):
NBA 近期熱門文章
PTT體育區 即時熱門文章
16
17
19
33