[花邊] KD回應Green質疑其贏得NBA冠軍的看法

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The former teammates, who played together on the Warriors, recently engaged in a back-and-forth after Draymond Green seemingly dissed Kevin Durant’s take on scoring being more important to win championships. In a recent interview with The Athletic, Green addressed folks who believe that defense does not play a role in winning championships. Draymond: “Those who don’t believe defense is as valuable as it is simply just don’t win. I don’t think anyone’s ever really been hell-bent on caring about the opinion of those that don’t win, because your opinion equals zero.” Reporter: “So I hear you, but Kevin has won.” Draymond: “He won here, (and) the defense here was…” Reporter: “It was incredible.” Draymond: “Absolutely.” Durant saw this exchange on social media and coldly pointed to facts that showed offense was the bigger focal point when the Warriors had their back-to-back championships. “And the offense was????” wrote a puzzled Durant on X. The Warriors’ offense was first in the league while their defense wasn’t even top-10 in the league during the 2017 and 2018 championship runs. In fact, neither the Cavaliers nor the Warriors were a top-10 defensive team in the league in those years. In essence, there seems to have been a misunderstanding of words somewhere. Durant never said offense was the only important thing in winning championships. However, Green seems to have understood that he felt defense has no role in winning a championship. 這兩位曾在金州勇士隊並肩作戰的前隊友,近期再度展開言論攻防。起因是Green似乎在 暗諷Durant「進攻對於奪冠更重要」的觀點,而再次隔空交火。 在近期接受《The Athletic》採訪時,Green針對「認為防守對奪冠毫無作用」的說法表 達了看法。 Green:「那些不認同防守價值的人,根本無法贏得比賽。我想從來沒有人會去在乎那些 從來沒贏過的人的意見,因為你的意見等於零。」 記者:「我明白你的意思,但Durant確實拿過冠軍。」 Green:「他的冠軍是在這裡(勇士隊)贏的,而這裡的防守可是……」 記者:「相當出色。」 Green:「毫無疑問。」 Durant透過社群媒體X看到這段對話後,冷靜列舉事實反駁,指出勇士隊完成兩連冠時, 球隊的重心其實更傾向進攻。 Durant在X上困惑地寫道:「那當時的進攻表現又怎麼說?」 事實上,在2017年與2018年勇士隊奪冠的賽季中,球隊的進攻效率高居聯盟第一,防守效 率卻連聯盟前十都未進。更值得一提的是,那兩年無論是勇士隊還是其總決賽對手騎士隊 ,都未進入聯盟防守前十。 實質上,這場爭議似乎源於雙方對話中的語義誤解。Durant從未主張「進攻是奪冠的唯一 」,但Green卻將其理解為「Durant認為防守對奪冠毫無作用」。 “They understand what I’m saying, but people purposely take my words outta context, you know mfers just wanna dunk on me lol,” wrote Durant on X while acknowledging that this is a misunderstanding, clearly. “They take offense to everything I say. How ironic,” he further added. “I can feel the jealousy and insecurity through your burner account,” said the Rockets’ superstar when a fan criticized him for saying offense is more important than defense. If you assign weightage to both things, Durant may have said offense is 70% important, implying defense is still 30% needed to get the win, or even a 60-40 split. But Green seems to believe that Durant thinks defense has no contribution in winning championships (i.e 0% value), which is far from the truth. Eddie Gonzalez, a close friend of Durant’s, believes that Draymond Green only reacted due to his second nature of needing to respond when being baited by reporters, calling out his desire to replace Charles Barkley in the media. Durant has, on multiple occasions, acknowledged that defense is important as well, giving flowers to Draymond Green for his contributions, but offense is just more important in his opinion. Durant在X上明確點出這場誤會,他寫:「他們其實懂我想表達的意思,但總有人故意斷 章取義。要知道這些人就是想找機會噴我罷了,哈哈。」 他補充:「我說的每句話都會被他們挑毛病,太諷刺了。」 若要為兩者的重要性賦予權重,Durant的觀點是「進攻占70%」這意味著防守仍占30%的奪 冠要素,甚至可能是「60%進攻、40%防守」。但Green似乎誤以為Durant認為「防守對奪 冠毫無貢獻」,而這與Durant的真實想法相去甚遠。 Durant的好友Eddie Gonzalez認為,Green之所以有這樣的反應,源於他的「本能」當被 記者引導時,他總是習慣回應。Eddie Gonzalez還指出,Green渴望在媒體領域取代 Charles Barkley的地位。事實上,Durant曾多次認可防守的重要性,也大力讚賞過Green 在防守端的貢獻,他僅是認為「進攻在奪冠中占據更重要的地位」。 來源:https://reurl.cc/8bnE6R -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.114.89 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1762336901.A.7B1.html

11/05 18:06, 2小時前 , 1F
KD你就包容一下他不會進攻只會幹些髒活斷人職涯,你
11/05 18:06, 1F

11/05 18:06, 2小時前 , 2F
都是名人堂等級的球星了別跟這般雜魚一番見識
11/05 18:06, 2F

11/05 18:07, 2小時前 , 3F
green的本能是什麼
11/05 18:07, 3F

11/05 18:07, 2小時前 , 4F
之前就有人說過了教育很重要 看懂別人在講什麼很
11/05 18:07, 4F

11/05 18:07, 2小時前 , 5F
重要
11/05 18:07, 5F

11/05 18:08, 2小時前 , 6F
贏在裁判吧 移動迷宮怎麼防守
11/05 18:08, 6F

11/05 18:09, 2小時前 , 7F
籃球要贏最終還是要把球投進籃框裡
11/05 18:09, 7F

11/05 18:14, 2小時前 , 8F
KD強取豪橫奪走他主子連續兩座FMVP
11/05 18:14, 8F

11/05 18:14, 2小時前 , 9F
取消hand check之後是不是都是優秀進攻加
11/05 18:14, 9F

11/05 18:14, 2小時前 , 10F
中上防守的奪冠模式阿
11/05 18:14, 10F

11/05 18:15, 2小時前 , 11F
勇士那兩年是贏在對手是過譽仔
11/05 18:15, 11F

11/05 18:17, 2小時前 , 12F
16亞攻1防5 17冠攻1防2 18冠攻3防11 19亞攻1防13
11/05 18:17, 12F

11/05 18:19, 2小時前 , 13F
22冠攻17防1 很難說到底攻防占比各是多少%
11/05 18:19, 13F

11/05 18:19, 2小時前 , 14F
NBA真的超智障的 拿冠軍的隊友還可以因為怎麼拿冠
11/05 18:19, 14F

11/05 18:19, 2小時前 , 15F
軍吵起來 這個聯盟球員一大堆心智障礙的 垃圾聯盟
11/05 18:19, 15F

11/05 18:19, 2小時前 , 16F
和球員
11/05 18:19, 16F

11/05 18:20, 2小時前 , 17F
總之贏冠軍的秘訣很簡單 得分比對手多
11/05 18:20, 17F

11/05 18:20, 2小時前 , 18F
失分比對手少
11/05 18:20, 18F

11/05 18:21, 2小時前 , 19F
15冠攻2防1 補一下嘴綠冠軍循環
11/05 18:21, 19F

11/05 18:21, 2小時前 , 20F
因為嘴綠只會防守不會進攻啊,你說進攻比較重要他
11/05 18:21, 20F

11/05 18:21, 2小時前 , 21F
當然不爽
11/05 18:21, 21F

11/05 18:23, 2小時前 , 22F
真der green幾罐 你KD幾罐 你KD奪罐還不是靠curry
11/05 18:23, 22F

11/05 18:26, 2小時前 , 23F
取代老巴地位不太可能吧 老巴能接受自己被尻洗 嘴綠
11/05 18:26, 23F

11/05 18:26, 2小時前 , 24F
不像有那種想法的人
11/05 18:26, 24F

11/05 18:26, 2小時前 , 25F
宇宙勇猛的是火力吧
11/05 18:26, 25F

11/05 18:27, 1小時前 , 26F
真的要說 嘴綠更可能走歐尼爾那種胖虎風格
11/05 18:27, 26F

11/05 18:28, 1小時前 , 27F
嘴綠這種狐假虎威的球員最沒資格講別人奪冠的事
11/05 18:28, 27F

11/05 18:28, 1小時前 , 28F
反正一言不合就掏戒指開嗆
11/05 18:28, 28F

11/05 18:28, 1小時前 , 29F
沒Curry 吸怪,他就是個dirty player
11/05 18:28, 29F

11/05 18:29, 1小時前 , 30F
而且有一季Curry 缺席很多,就證明了嘴綠是個shx
11/05 18:29, 30F

11/05 18:30, 1小時前 , 31F
有些球員是打球方式讓人討厭,有些是言行,他則全包
11/05 18:30, 31F

11/05 18:30, 1小時前 , 32F
勇士還是太依賴LBJ了
11/05 18:30, 32F

11/05 18:31, 1小時前 , 33F
NBA是沒其它冠軍球隊能提了嗎
11/05 18:31, 33F

11/05 18:33, 1小時前 , 34F
這就記者故意想引起爭議罷了 蠻無聊的
11/05 18:33, 34F

11/05 18:33, 1小時前 , 35F
綠師傅是誰的嘴替和宣傳喇叭要修改記憶很明顯了吧
11/05 18:33, 35F

11/05 18:35, 1小時前 , 36F
拼斷腿為勇士拼到最後一刻 只因為2FMVP功高震主
11/05 18:35, 36F

11/05 18:35, 1小時前 , 37F
球員跟網民一樣國小生吵架真的蠻好笑的==
11/05 18:35, 37F

11/05 18:36, 1小時前 , 38F
嘴綠只能講防守、但是如果不能往死裡打嘴綠的功能
11/05 18:36, 38F

11/05 18:36, 1小時前 , 39F
至少減半吧
11/05 18:36, 39F

11/05 18:39, 1小時前 , 40F
80仔還有人會幫他說話 呵呵
11/05 18:39, 40F

11/05 18:40, 1小時前 , 41F
髒綠不會進攻啊 當然貶低進攻
11/05 18:40, 41F

11/05 18:42, 1小時前 , 42F
問題是今年嘴綠要奪冠了嗎
11/05 18:42, 42F

11/05 18:45, 1小時前 , 43F
Green離開勇士變垃圾
11/05 18:45, 43F

11/05 18:47, 1小時前 , 44F
NBA的追逐冠軍文化造就出一群腦子有洞的球員,整天
11/05 18:47, 44F

11/05 18:47, 1小時前 , 45F
在那我幾冠你又幾冠,跟個智障一樣
11/05 18:47, 45F

11/05 18:48, 1小時前 , 46F
然後球迷也跟著在哪他幾冠你又幾冠,真的系出同門
11/05 18:48, 46F

11/05 18:50, 1小時前 , 47F
跟對人很重要 嘴綠跟到Curry就能狐假虎威一輩子
11/05 18:50, 47F

11/05 18:51, 1小時前 , 48F
嘴綠的進攻ok吧? 只是他是進攻對方球員..
11/05 18:51, 48F

11/05 18:53, 1小時前 , 49F
嘴綠就是個垃圾, end
11/05 18:53, 49F

11/05 18:53, 1小時前 , 50F
嘴綠的價值體現在對方球員被防到上不了場
11/05 18:53, 50F

11/05 18:54, 1小時前 , 51F
嘴綠是很討人厭,但說他不會進攻?他應該是勇士最
11/05 18:54, 51F

11/05 18:54, 1小時前 , 52F
懂的,進攻不是只有投球啊。
11/05 18:54, 52F

11/05 18:59, 1小時前 , 53F
對啊 進攻對方球員的身體也是進攻啊
11/05 18:59, 53F

11/05 18:59, 1小時前 , 54F
沒嘴綠可能沒冠軍 沒CURRY KD有嘴綠連季後賽都沒
11/05 18:59, 54F

11/05 19:00, 1小時前 , 55F
他總是喜歡過度放大自己的定位 CURRY不在他啥都不是
11/05 19:00, 55F

11/05 19:03, 1小時前 , 56F
大家都受傷那年就原形畢露了還在嘴綠會進攻
11/05 19:03, 56F

11/05 19:03, 1小時前 , 57F
嘴綠就斷章取義的慣犯了 只要有版面他就是亂嘴
11/05 19:03, 57F

11/05 19:04, 1小時前 , 58F
還是又要怪隊友了
11/05 19:04, 58F

11/05 19:04, 1小時前 , 59F
就不能承認攻防本來就相輔相成嗎
11/05 19:04, 59F

11/05 19:05, 1小時前 , 60F
4>2有什麼好爭辯的
11/05 19:05, 60F

11/05 19:06, 1小時前 , 61F
髒綠真的時不時就要發作一下 這種人真的噁
11/05 19:06, 61F

11/05 19:07, 1小時前 , 62F
進攻贏得總冠軍nash怎麼還是無冠仔
11/05 19:07, 62F

11/05 19:07, 1小時前 , 63F
表面上先跟你什麼事都沒有 哪天接錯線再就跳出來吠
11/05 19:07, 63F

11/05 19:07, 1小時前 , 64F
一下
11/05 19:07, 64F

11/05 19:07, 1小時前 , 65F
這就是典型的印象派被數據派打臉的實證
11/05 19:07, 65F

11/05 19:11, 1小時前 , 66F
他問冠軍你用一般賽季的數據來說話?好歹用季後賽
11/05 19:11, 66F

11/05 19:11, 1小時前 , 67F
數據吧
11/05 19:11, 67F

11/05 19:20, 1小時前 , 68F
打到他內心的自卑感了
11/05 19:20, 68F

11/05 19:22, 1小時前 , 69F
KD的進攻是把球投進籃框,嘴綠進攻是以人為目標,
11/05 19:22, 69F

11/05 19:22, 1小時前 , 70F
當然解讀不一樣
11/05 19:22, 70F

11/05 19:37, 49分鐘前 , 71F
跟清道夫一樣,有餌就咬 垃圾也吃 可憐
11/05 19:37, 71F

11/05 19:43, 43分鐘前 , 72F
KD 果然不論對手是誰都能直接嘴回去
11/05 19:43, 72F

11/05 19:50, 36分鐘前 , 73F
KD來的第一年防守效率是第二欸
11/05 19:50, 73F

11/05 19:58, 28分鐘前 , 74F
真的只能二選一 就挑進攻大於
11/05 19:58, 74F

11/05 20:05, 21分鐘前 , 75F
進攻要比的是對面的防守
11/05 20:05, 75F
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