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[外絮] 富保羅搭檔: JB>77 77的雕像會是雙手抱怨

看板NBA (美國籃球)作者 (usmarine2008)時間8小時前 (2026/02/24 16:42), 編輯推噓157(182推 25噓 173→)
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https://x.com/AndrewDBailey/status/2026110719679475904 Bleacher 作者Andrew評論並轉發Rich Paul的Podcast 內容 「LeBron James 的經紀人出現在這個Podcast上感覺超怪的。」 https://open.spotify.com/episode/7G2gB0FdxVXFlh19d1a5zN?&t=1082&pi=WIRb2M9ZT4m8N Podcast部分逐字稿 17:55-22:53 https://i.meee.com.tw/cTmTXiA.png
Max Kellerman RIPS Luka Doncic for always crying to the refs “Luka statue is going to be him complaining to the refs. Every trip down the floor you are complaining to the refs. Every trip down the floor? Even when he hits the shot. No you are not going to get the and 1, it can’t be that the refs blow every call on Luka Max Kellerman 痛批 Luka Doncic 總是對裁判抱怨連連 Luka 的雕像造型應該會是他對著裁判抱怨的樣子。每一次回防、每一波進攻，你都在跟 裁判抱怨？每一次耶？甚至在他球投進的時候也一樣。不，你不可能每次都要到+1的機會 ，裁判不可能在每一球關於 Luka 的判決上都吹錯。 Rich: This is your rant. 這又是你的長篇大論時間了 Max: Yeah, I got a ran later on, but here's the problem. Rich, you and I both saw this last night Jaylen Brown is better than Luka Doncic. Better player. I'd rather have him on the team. If I had to start a team, I'd rather start it with Jaylen Brown than Luka. 對，晚點還有。但問題是這樣的，Rich，我們昨晚都看到了。 Jaylen Brown 比 Luka Doncic 更強。他是更好的球員。如果我要組一支球隊，比起 Luka，我寧願以 Jaylen Brown 為核心來建隊。 Rich: Jaylen Brown is a damn good player. I'll give you that Jaylen Brown 確實是個該死的好球員，這點我認同。 Max: He's better than Luka. And the reason he's better than Luka is partly because he's not as skilled as Luka. That's one of the reasons he's better. Here it is. In the NFL, if you have a mobile quarterback, right? And by the way, this excuse was used to keep black players out of playing quarterback for years, right? We keep talking about the field generals, the history of the black quarterback, the doc that's out, which is excellent, which we're both in. 他比Luka 強。而他之所以比Luka強，部分原因是因為他「沒有Luka那麼多才多藝」。 這就是他更強的原因之一。 聽好了，在 NFL 裡，如果你有一個跑動型四分衛，對吧？順帶一提，這種藉口多年來一 直被用來阻礙黑人球員擔任四分衛。我們一直在聊場上的指揮官、黑人四分衛的歷史，還 有最近那部我們兩個都有參與其中的紀錄片，那部片真的很棒。 Rich: Well, I haven't seen myself in a... but keep going 額，我還沒看到我出現的部分……但你繼續說。 Max: as I always talk about short-term incentives motivate behavior more than long-term incentives usually, if you can scramble, then, and you need a first down, your short-term incentive is always get the first down with your legs if it's available. The problem is, if you do that all the time, you don't develop as much as a pocket passer, which is the most important thing to be, right? That's Luka Doncic. Luka Doncic is a scrambling quarterback who hasn't developed pocket awareness. What's the analogy? Because he's so skillful, he can almost always get himself a high % shot. So that's what he does. But as a result, his teammates are standing around. The ball is not moving. And when you add to that the fact that he complains about every single possession to the refs and he doesn't play defense, he made what he actually tried once or twice on defense last night, he is the player who he is. But because Jaylen Brown is not as talented as Luka, he is forced, if he wants to be a great player, to play the right way. He gets his points in the flow of the game. If you need a bucket, he can go get it for you, not avoid contact, get the and one, shoot the three. He will hustle back on defense. He's a heads-up player. He'll make the right pass. Because he's not as good, he has become better. He was forced. The pressure was to become a great player, forced him to be a better player than Luka. I rest my case. 就像我常說的，「短期誘因」通常比「長期目標」更能驅使人的行為。如果你會亂竄， 而你現在需要一個首攻（first down），只要有空間，你的短期誘因永遠是靠雙腳去衝出 首攻。問題是，如果你一直這樣做，你就無法磨練出口袋傳球（pocketpasser）的能力， 而那才是四分衛最重要的特質，對吧？ 這就是 Luka ，Luka就是那種會亂竄、卻還沒開發出口袋意識的四分衛。 類比過來是什麼意思呢？因為他太有才華了，他幾乎隨時都能幫自己搞到高命中率的出手 所以他就一直這麼做，但結果就是，他的隊友都只能站在旁邊看。 球權不再流動。再加上他每一球都要跟裁判抱怨，而且他不防守，昨晚他大概也就認真防 了1-2次吧，這就是他的球員本質。但因為 Jaylen Brown 天賦沒那麼高， 如果他想成為偉大的球員，他「被迫」要用正確的方式打球。 他在比賽的流動中得分。如果你需要有人取分，他可以幫你辦到，他不畏懼對抗、能進球 加罰、能投三分。他還會拼命回防。他是一個球商很高的球員，會做出正確的傳球。 正因為他「沒那麼好天賦高」，他反而變得更好了。他是被逼出來的。那種想成為偉大球 員的壓力，強迫他變成了比 Luka 更好的球員。我的話說完了。 Rich: So, how do you fix it, Max? What would you do? You have a player at the level that he is. How do you fix it? 那你要怎麼修正這個問題，Max？你會怎麼做？當你擁有這種層級的球員時，要怎麼做? Max: I think here's the tough part, because he's been to a conference finals playing that way. So, he has some track record of success, and at his best, Luka's a lot. He's a lot. He's a really great offensive player. And I think JJ is going to have to get in Luka's face about it. I think he's going to have to force him to play a different brand of basketball. You know, and maybe it's not getting in his face. Maybe it's push his buttons another way. You know, Pat Riley, when he wanted to change the Lakers' offense a little bit, it wasn't always just going to throw it down to Kareem, had to push the right buttons, had to put guys in certain spots, had to bring people along. 我覺得最難的部分在於，他用那種打法打進過分區決賽。所以他有一定的成功經驗，而且 巔峰時期的 Luka 真的很難對付。他是一個非常偉大的進攻球員。 我覺得 JJ必須當面跟他攤牌、強迫他用不同的籃球風格來打球。或者，不一定要當面起衝 突。也許是用另一種方式觸動他。就像 Pat Riley 當年想稍微改變湖人的進攻時，不只是 把球丟給 Kareem 就算了，他必須找對方法、把球員放在特定的位置，引導大家前進。 Rich: Yeah. Look, I think anytime you have any great talent, you know, you have to make sure that the pieces fit for their strengths and you have the holes filled for their weaknesses. And as you can see last night, Jaylen Brown was incredible last night, but he wasn't the impact player of the game. The impact player of the game was Payton Pritchard 沒錯。聽著，我認為每當你擁有頂尖天才時，你必須確保配角能發揮他們的長處，並填補 他們的弱點。就像昨晚看到的，Jaylen Brown 表現得很不可思議，但他並不是那場比賽 最有影響力的球員。最具影響力的球員是 Payton Pritchard。 Max: Yeah, Pritchard's just good. 沒錯，Pritchard 就是這麼厲害 Rich: Yes, yes. And on top of that, the thing I was most impressed with the Celtics was, yeah, we know Jason Tatum is out. We know the type of coach that Joe Mazzulla is. He's gonna have guys prepared. But the thing I was most impressed with was, you had guys like Scheierman, The Big Queta. Yeah, you had Hugo Gonzalez, I think. The ball pressure that he was putting on guys, I think. To me, when you have the other guys that maybe they play, maybe they don't, step up on a night like that and give an effort, they did not make plays that were like gonna show up in the stat sheet in terms of the point column or whatever the case may be. But they made effort plays, they made plays that said in order for you to beat us tonight, you're gonna have to take it. 是的。除此之外，Celtics 最讓我印象深刻的是，我們知道 Jayson Tatum 沒上場， 我們也知道 Joe Mazzulla 是什麼樣的教練。 他會讓球員做好準備。但我最驚艷的是，你有像 Scheierman、The Big Queta，還有 Hugo Gonzalez 這些球員。 他們給對手的持球壓力非常驚人。對我來說，當你看到這些平時可能上不了場、或者上場 時間不多的球員，在這種夜晚站出來展現拼勁，他們的表現也許不會體現在得分數據上 ，但他們展現了拚勁，那些動作在告訴你：「今晚你想贏我們，你得拿命來換。」 備註 77不如Brown嗎 XD 雕像是雙手一攤 https://i.meee.com.tw/cTmTXiA.png
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02/24 16:43, 8小時前 , 1F
被神左虐歪
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02/24 16:43, 8小時前 , 2F
聯盟第一人就是會被人整天黑
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02/24 16:46, 8小時前 , 3F
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02/24 16:46, 8小時前 , 4F
講077霸球 真督假督 越來越誇張了
02/24 16:46, 4F
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02/24 16:47, 8小時前 , 5F
你是暗示母獅的雕像造型嗎
02/24 16:47, 5F
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02/24 16:47, 8小時前 , 6F
人設不對 但沒講錯就是了
02/24 16:47, 6F
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02/24 16:47, 8小時前 , 7F
國王詹身邊的機器動得很厲害
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02/24 16:47, 8小時前 , 8F
LBJ有資格笑別人攤手喔
02/24 16:47, 8F
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02/24 16:47, 8小時前 , 9F
有喔 富堡幫開始了 批鬥77大會正式揭幕
02/24 16:47, 9F
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 10F
現做姆斯的吧 然後頭換掉 輪子拿掉 就是77的
02/24 16:48, 10F
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 11F
攤手雕像笑死
02/24 16:48, 11F
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 12F
詹牧師不能教化一下後進嗎？
02/24 16:48, 12F
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 13F
他在暗示77該去練無球了嗎？
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 14F
77 雕像是攤手抱怨，那對面放一尊 LBJ 驚天一跪好了
02/24 16:48, 14F
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 15F
動起來了
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02/24 16:48, 8小時前 , 16F
，這樣的畫面，感覺就會變世界名畫一樣美。
02/24 16:48, 16F
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02/24 16:49, 8小時前 , 17F
羌媒開始發瘋了嗎？再怎麼鬥湖人也不會押寶羌啊
02/24 16:49, 17F
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02/24 16:49, 8小時前 , 18F
我怎麼感覺在稱讚77
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02/24 16:50, 8小時前 , 19F
開始鬥77了
02/24 16:50, 19F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 20F
JB：羌媒不要把我當槍使
02/24 16:51, 20F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 21F
去年就說Nico這一搞完全弄壞姆斯的如意算盤，77跟
02/24 16:51, 21F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 22F
姆斯的打法實在太接近了，本來姆斯可以用他跟AD的
02/24 16:51, 22F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 23F
同捆包一直吃湖人1+1合約的豆腐到很多年後，現在卻
02/24 16:51, 23F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 24F
變成直接被湖人逼退。如果是阿肥、字母、SGA、AE、
02/24 16:51, 24F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 25F
JT來湖人，姆斯都不會被這麼邊緣化，難怪富保這麼
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 26F
仇視77
02/24 16:51, 26F
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02/24 16:51, 8小時前 , 27F
姆斯機器動得很厲害啊
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02/24 16:52, 8小時前 , 28F
抱怨界的GOAT
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02/24 16:52, 8小時前 , 29F
富寶跟羌媒開始要最後一搏了嗎
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02/24 16:52, 8小時前 , 30F
姆斯完全管不到富堡 我第一次聽到覺得乾怎麼可能
02/24 16:52, 30F
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02/24 16:52, 8小時前 , 31F
富保拿JB來臭77？
02/24 16:52, 31F
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02/24 16:52, 8小時前 , 32F
雨果貝勒Q好色PP什麼順位？湖人連#17的DK都養不出來
02/24 16:52, 32F
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02/24 16:53, 8小時前 , 33F
翻譯：jb比77更適合當山羌的副手
02/24 16:53, 33F
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02/24 16:53, 8小時前 , 34F
最近富堡幫和親詹媒體開始一直批鬥77了 不只一篇了
02/24 16:53, 34F
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02/24 16:53, 8小時前 , 35F
樂邦詹又讓小弟放話搞鬥爭了，怎麼說又
02/24 16:53, 35F
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02/24 16:54, 8小時前 , 36F
懂了 77不如傑寶
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02/24 16:54, 8小時前 , 37F
77!又是你!
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02/24 16:54, 8小時前 , 38F
又來了 想潑77髒水啊
02/24 16:54, 38F
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02/24 16:55, 8小時前 , 39F
這麼說,山羌雕像是偷睜眼還是跪下的?
02/24 16:55, 39F
還有 301 則推文
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02/24 20:58, 4小時前 , 341F
但湖人目前一定是選77優於樂邦
02/24 20:58, 341F
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02/24 20:59, 4小時前 , 342F
窮保羅：
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02/24 21:00, 4小時前 , 343F
但明明像樂邦接班人 卻被姆咪追殺XD
02/24 21:00, 343F
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02/24 21:02, 4小時前 , 344F
姆斯集團到處噁心樹敵 別怪別人看不起
02/24 21:02, 344F
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02/24 21:02, 4小時前 , 345F
批評77的點 套在樂邦都完全適用
02/24 21:02, 345F
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02/24 21:07, 4小時前 , 346F
姆咪常只有立場 沒有是非邏輯 例如自以為貴今的姆
02/24 21:07, 346F
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02/24 21:07, 4小時前 , 347F
咪 批評貴古的點 也都完美套用在樂邦
02/24 21:07, 347F
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02/24 21:07, 4小時前 , 348F
嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔
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02/24 21:08, 4小時前 , 349F
所以不知道姆咪有什麼邏輯去批評77 人家做的都和樂
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02/24 21:08, 4小時前 , 350F
邦8成像
02/24 21:08, 350F
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02/24 21:08, 4小時前 , 351F
77在小牛也沒被臭成這樣，來到湖人各種被怪聲
02/24 21:08, 351F
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02/24 21:13, 4小時前 , 352F
77攤手 富堡邦某個跪在旁邊 美景
02/24 21:13, 352F
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02/24 21:13, 4小時前 , 353F
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02/24 21:14, 4小時前 , 354F
明星賽後還是不肯放過欸……
02/24 21:14, 354F
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02/24 21:16, 4小時前 , 355F
MVP模擬排行前五的球員 被富堡幫嫌到臭頭☹
02/24 21:16, 355F
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02/24 21:25, 4小時前 , 356F
姆斯的是下跪欸
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02/24 21:31, 4小時前 , 357F
阿堡,救我 我不能離開湖人
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02/24 21:32, 4小時前 , 358F
他的確不想離開啊，對他生意有影響
02/24 21:32, 358F
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02/24 21:39, 4小時前 , 359F
77過譽本來就不是一天兩天，不懂為何人氣還可以這
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02/24 21:39, 4小時前 , 360F
麼高，也難怪NBA會被說越來越難看，聯盟捧這咖？
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02/24 21:40, 4小時前 , 361F
目前是1大於0 沒錯吧
02/24 21:40, 361F
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02/24 21:44, 3小時前 , 362F
77怎樣也是聯盟當打天王之一,富保沒事就臭77跟AR到
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02/24 21:44, 3小時前 , 363F
底是怎樣?
02/24 21:44, 363F
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02/24 21:50, 3小時前 , 364F
對 不要每球都攤 攤幾球後 精準抓住機會一跪 更強
02/24 21:50, 364F
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02/24 21:51, 3小時前 , 365F
因為越來越像87%要被蛋雕了啊 當然更加口不擇言
02/24 21:51, 365F
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02/24 21:51, 3小時前 , 366F
我還以為他在模仿姆斯，不如乾脆趴跪在地上
02/24 21:51, 366F
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02/24 21:52, 3小時前 , 367F
一般都說這種叫____ 樓下貼圖
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02/24 22:03, 3小時前 , 368F
等明年Bron閃了再來評論吧
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02/24 22:03, 3小時前 , 369F
現在講都只是嘴砲而已
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02/24 22:04, 3小時前 , 370F
不檢討該被蛋雕的 一直檢討王牌幹嘛
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02/24 22:11, 3小時前 , 371F
杰倫：你們嘴砲可以不要扯到我？
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02/24 22:21, 3小時前 , 372F
LBJ友好意思說
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02/24 22:22, 3小時前 , 373F
77這輩子大概就長這樣了吧 從進NBA到現在看不出有
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02/24 22:22, 3小時前 , 374F
什麼進步 只有攤手這個動作一天比一天多
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02/24 22:25, 3小時前 , 375F
LBJ雕像，會不會是跪裁判@@？
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02/24 22:32, 3小時前 , 376F
富保真的很怕被湖人丟掉
02/24 22:32, 376F
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02/24 22:36, 3小時前 , 377F
只有一個扯字 是怎樣 沒湖人待 姆斯團有那麼怕喔
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02/24 22:36, 3小時前 , 378F
整天讓經紀人攻擊隊友 又裝和他無關的夠噁
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02/24 22:37, 3小時前 , 379F
不知道被偶像冷嘲熱諷是什麼感覺嘻嘻
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02/24 23:16, 2小時前 , 380F
來了來了～垢詹的慣用手法
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