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[外絮] Ivey在腿斷之後曾想過自殺

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https://bely.cc/0bTEOJ A day after being waived by the Chicago Bulls for what the franchise called “co nduct detrimental to the team,” guard Jaden Ivey said his thoughts turned dark as he struggled with devastating injuries last year, in a livestreamed conversat ion in which he also discussed his recent family issues and the Bulls’ medical evaluation. 在因球隊所稱的”有損球隊利益的行為”而被芝加哥公牛裁掉一天後，後衛Jaden Ivey在一 場直播對談中表示，自己在去年遭遇嚴重傷勢時，曾一度陷入負面甚至黑暗的想法。他同時 也談到了近期的家庭問題，以及公牛對他進行的醫療評估。 “I’ve almost committed suicide multiple times,” Ivey said Tuesday evening dur ing an interview with the “PinPoint Podcast,” hosted by Kerrigan Skelly, a sel f-described evangelist with nearly 100,000 YouTube subscribers. “And I’m not a shamed to say it. I’m not ashamed because God was merciful to keep me here. “I had (oxycodone) pills in my hand. And my wife was telling me, ‘Don’t do th is. Don’t go down this road.’” “我曾經多次差點自殺，”Ivey 週二晚間在由自稱福音傳道者、擁有近 10 萬YouTube訂閱 的Kerrigan Skelly主持的PinPoint Podcast訪談中表示。”我不為此感到羞愧，因為是上 帝的憐憫讓我還能活在這裡。” “我當時手裡拿著oxycodone藥丸，我的妻子一直對我說：’不要這樣做，不要走上這條路 。’” Earlier Tuesday during another livestream on Instagram, Ivey said his wife and f amily have recently stopped communicating with him. “That’s why my wife in here, and she not even texting me,” Ivey said on Insta gram. He also said, “Those who are around me, those who are my family members b etraying (me) because of what I spoke. The truth. Betraying me. Saying that I’m losing my mind. Saying that I’m crazy. … Those are my own household. All beca use of the Gospel. All because I said the truth.” He said those suicidal thoughts came after breaking his fibula Jan. 1, 2025, whe n he was with the Detroit Pistons. The 24-year-old said it was the first major i njury of his basketball career. 週二稍早在另一場Instagram直播中，Ivey表示他的妻子與家人近期已經停止與他聯絡。 “這就是為什麼我老婆就在這裡，但她甚至不傳訊息給我，”Ivey 在 Instagram 上說。他 還表示：”那些在我身邊的人，那些是我家人的人，因為我所說的話而背叛我。真相。他們 背叛我，說我精神有問題，說我瘋了……這些都是我自己的家人。全都是因為福音，全都是 因為我說出了真相。” 他也提到，這些自殺的念頭是在2025年1月1日、他效力於底特律活塞時腓骨骨折之後出現的 。這位24歲的球員表示，那是他籃球生涯中的第一次重大傷勢。 “I get surgery, I’m rehabbing, right?” Ivey said. “And I’m under this false doctrine of once saved, always saved. That you’re righteous, but it doesn’t m atter if you sin, it can’t touch your soul. “And so I still, I still had no peace, and I went back and … during that time, I had my two children, and I was back in the world, back in the world again, tr ying to figure out what, what, what is the truth?” “我接受了手術，也在復健，對吧？”Ivey 說。”但我當時陷在一種錯誤的教義裡，認為 人一旦得救，永遠得救’，覺得人是義的，就算犯罪也不會影響靈魂。 “但我仍然沒有平靜，於是我又回到……在那段時間，我已經有了兩個孩子，我又回到世俗 之中，再次陷入其中，試圖去搞清楚，到底什麼才是真理？” Ivey, whose season was shut down Thursday while he manages left knee pain, has g one live on Instagram several times since the Bulls announced the news last week , delivering inflammatory comments about a variety of topics, including calling Catholicism “a false religion.” In his livestream Monday morning, he called th e NBA’s advocacy for the LGBTQ+ community “unrighteous.” He was waived later that day. Ivey因為左膝疼痛管理問題，上週四被宣布本季報銷。在此之後，他多次於Instagram開直 播，發表各種具爭議性的言論，包括稱天主教為”虛假的宗教”。 在週一早上的直播中，他還將 NBA 對LGBTQ+社群的支持形容為”不正義”。而他也在當 天稍晚被球隊裁掉。 Since being waived, he’s publicly criticized the personal and spiritual lives o f NBA stars such as Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry, Los Angeles Laker s forward LeBron James and Minnesota Timberwolves guard Anthony Edwards. On Tuesday, he referenced an incident with Edwards from 2022, in which the Wolve s guard posted a video to social media with homophobic comments. Edwards was lat er fined $40,000 by the NBA. 自從被裁掉之後，Ivey公開批評了多位 NBA 球星的個人與精神生活，包括Stephen Curry、 LeBron James，以及Anthony Edwards。 在週二的發言中，他還提到了Edwards在2022年的一起事件—當時這位灰狼後衛曾在社群媒 體上發布帶有恐同言論的影片，之後被 NBA 罰款40,000美元。 “He said those things, right, and they fined him for it,” Ivey said. “And so how is it that he said something detrimental and basically hypocritical judgment . … He got fined. He didn’t get kicked out the league. He didn’t get waived, right? But it’s because he’s the best player on their team, right? They need h im, right? He makes them money, right? “It’s all money involved into that. That’s why he’s still playing.” “他確實說了那些話，對吧？結果聯盟只是對他開罰，”Ivey 說。”那為什麼他講了那些? 害、甚至帶有虛偽評斷的言論……最後只是被罰款？他沒有被逐出聯盟，也沒有被裁掉，對 吧？但那是因為他是球隊最好的球員，對吧？球隊需要他，他能替他們賺錢，對吧？ “這一切都跟金錢有關。這也是為什麼他現在還能繼續打球。” As Tuesday’s livestream interview continued, Ivey was asked about the possibili ty of continuing his basketball career, which appears to be at an impasse. Earli er in the day, it was announced that Ivey will receive his full $10.1 million sa lary for the 2025-26 season. “If that opportunity came, it doesn’t matter if it’s in the NBA,” Ivey said. “It doesn’t matter if it’s — I know they don’t have it — but if it’s the CBA, if it’s overseas. It doesn’t matter. It could be the African league.” 隨著週二的直播訪談持續進行，Ivey 被問到是否還有機會繼續籃球生涯——目前看起來他 的職業生涯正陷入停滯。當天稍早也宣布，他將獲得2025-26賽季完整的1,010萬美元薪資 。 “如果有機會，我不在乎是不是在 NBA，”Ivey 說。”不管是在—我知道他們沒有—但 如果是在 CBA，或是在海外打球，都沒關係。甚至去非洲聯盟也可以。” Despite the Bulls saying Ivey was released for conduct detrimental to the team, Ivey rebutted the notion. “I was a good teammate to those around me,” Ivey said. “I made the right play s. I did exactly what the coach asked me to do on a daily basis. Whatever was ne eded, whatever was required of me to do, I was willing. “And so my conduct was not detrimental to the team. It’s strictly because I sp oke the truth of the word of God and was preaching the Gospel.” 儘管公牛隊表示 Ivey 是因”有損球隊利益的行為”而被釋出，Ivey 對此提出反駁。 “我對身邊的人來說一直都是個好隊友，”Ivey 說。”我做出正確的判斷，並且每天都按 照教練的要求去做。無論球隊需要什麼、要求我做什麼，我都願意配合。 “所以我的行為並沒有對球隊造成損害。我被釋出的原因，純粹是因為我說出了上帝的話語 ，並且在傳揚福音。” After being traded from Detroit, Ivey played only four games with the Bulls, who sat him to allow him to rehab his surgically repaired left knee to build streng th. Ivey said the Bulls thought he was playing hurt, but he said it was how he h ad been playing all season with the Pistons. 在從底特律被交易過來之後，Ivey只為公牛出賽了四場比賽。球隊之後讓他休戰，以便他針 對手術修復後的左膝進行復健並恢復力量。Ivey 表示，公牛認為他是在帶傷上陣，但他則 說，這其實就是他整個賽季在活塞時的比賽狀態。 Ivey said he rehabbed his knee for two weeks, but the Bulls pushed back his time table. Then, in one practice with the team, he banged knees with forward Leonard Miller, and his left knee later swelled up before the swelling subsided. “I said, ‘I’m ready. Jesus healed my knee,'” Ivey said. Ivey said he offered to fly himself to Philadelphia for the team’s March 25 gam e. Instead, he got an MRI, and the team shut him down for the season March 26. Four days later, the Bulls waived him after his series of online diatribes. Ivey 表示，他為膝蓋復健了兩週，但公牛將他的復出時程往後延。在一次球隊訓練中，他 與前鋒Leonard Miller發生膝蓋碰撞，之後左膝出現腫脹，隨後才消退。 “我當時說，’我已經準備好了，耶穌已經治好了我的膝蓋，’”Ivey 說。 (千萬不要學他這樣對醫生說話lol) 他還表示，自己曾提出要自費飛往費城參加球隊 3月25日的比賽。但最終他接受了MRI檢查 。球隊並在 3 月 26 日宣布他本季報銷。 四天後，在他一連串的網路發言之後，公牛將他裁掉。 心得: 算是他近期言論的小整理+平衡報導吧 說實在的 蠻可憐的 基本上狀態很異常 家人也都不想理他了 但他現在的狀態應該也沒太多人會想幫他/可憐他了 現在跑去接近他的也都是Riley Gaines種把他當作基督教政治宣傳工具的那群人 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 14.10.142.97 (日本) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1775050366.A.510.html
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04/01 21:33, 2小時前 , 1F
他是真的要去看心理醫生 這故事真的並不好笑
04/01 21:33, 1F
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04/01 21:34, 2小時前 , 2F
遇到困境時 有時要舒緩自己的心理
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04/01 21:34, 2小時前 , 3F
對不起
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04/01 21:35, 2小時前 , 4F
不見得能靠自己就走出來 嚴重的還是要靠外界的幫助
04/01 21:35, 4F
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04/01 21:35, 2小時前 , 5F
宗教比毒品還可怕 可以合法害人
04/01 21:35, 5F
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04/01 21:35, 2小時前 , 6F
上一個有心理疾病的 痾….不能說
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04/01 21:36, 2小時前 , 7F
三樓扣安芬尼
04/01 21:36, 7F
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04/01 21:36, 2小時前 , 8F
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04/01 21:36, 2小時前 , 9F
所以要去找正牌宗教啊，如果遇上怪怪的宗教，你就
04/01 21:36, 9F
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04/01 21:37, 2小時前 , 10F
完蛋了
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04/01 21:37, 2小時前 , 11F
感覺有點像躁鬱症之類的
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04/01 21:38, 2小時前 , 12F
QQ
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04/01 21:39, 2小時前 , 13F
先放過自己 去看醫生
04/01 21:39, 13F
※ 編輯: EZ78 (14.10.142.97 日本), 04/01/2026 21:40:14
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04/01 21:40, 2小時前 , 14F
唉 怎會變怎樣 該去就醫
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04/01 21:42, 2小時前 , 15F
QQ，真的壓力很大
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04/01 21:42, 2小時前 , 16F
加油 希望聯盟別放生他 幫他一下
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04/01 21:43, 2小時前 , 17F
被CA毀了一生 好可憐
04/01 21:43, 17F
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04/01 21:44, 2小時前 , 18F
他在受傷前也是意氣風發的潛力新秀 會崩潰很正常
04/01 21:44, 18F
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04/01 21:44, 2小時前 , 19F
他自己也說了他本季就是帶小傷在打 但是公牛原本預
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04/01 21:44, 2小時前 , 20F
cole Anthony 毀了他
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 21F
被母隊放棄了 嗚嗚嗚
04/01 21:45, 21F
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 22F
我有認識類似症狀的人，照理說應該去看精神科
04/01 21:45, 22F
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 23F
期他至少是中期過程 讓他直接關機休養
04/01 21:45, 23F
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 24F
當然這之中也有訓練時的小傷影響到
04/01 21:45, 24F
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 25F
但是這樣的人很抗拒看醫生，只聽神的旨意
04/01 21:45, 25F
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 26F
不過現在啥都沒了 哀 本來很看好他在及第身旁至少保
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04/01 21:45, 2小時前 , 27F
底當個爆發力差一點的Okogie
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04/01 21:46, 2小時前 , 28F
受傷自我了斷 vs 走出來但宗教狂熱
04/01 21:46, 28F
噓
04/01 21:47, 2小時前 , 29F
get some help
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04/01 21:47, 2小時前 , 30F
該送醫了..
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04/01 21:48, 2小時前 , 31F
Jesus healed my knee，我的老天...我想到很荒唐的
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04/01 21:48, 2小時前 , 32F
是Ivey因為勁爆的球風被說是下一個Ja，結果一個持
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04/01 21:48, 2小時前 , 33F
槍一個祈禱，這是命運的對照組嗎?
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04/01 21:48, 2小時前 , 34F
Ivey比較幸運/不幸的是他還有點錢，要小心被騙錢
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04/01 21:48, 2小時前 , 35F
去扁害你腿斷的可能比較實際
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04/01 21:49, 2小時前 , 36F
來台灣吧
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04/01 21:49, 2小時前 , 37F
他真的需要心理醫師
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04/01 21:50, 2小時前 , 38F
當初害他斷腿的不會內疚嗎
04/01 21:50, 38F
還有 44 則推文
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04/01 22:39, 1小時前 , 83F
幹你媽的CA
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04/01 22:39, 1小時前 , 84F
有的宗教反對看身心科反對吃藥欸……
04/01 22:39, 84F
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 85F
怎麼知道他信仰的是不是這種宗教
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 86F
現在比較怕他的錢被騙光 妥妥的肥羊
04/01 22:40, 86F
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 87F
Ivey受傷前投射其實快練起來了
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 88F
CC幾個月前上KD的節目時，說Ivey是全聯盟最合適搭配
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 89F
他的後衛，但沒想到現在變這樣QQ
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04/01 22:40, 1小時前 , 90F
還是那句X你CA
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04/01 22:41, 1小時前 , 91F
他這精神狀況真的很危險QQ
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04/01 22:42, 1小時前 , 92F
精神科最難的是患者不一定會願意去看醫生啊
04/01 22:42, 92F
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04/01 22:42, 1小時前 , 93F
Cole真的毀人一生
04/01 22:42, 93F
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04/01 22:43, 1小時前 , 94F
只能說當家人都有點在迴避他了，你還能期望外界能幫
04/01 22:43, 94F
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04/01 22:43, 1小時前 , 95F
忙他什麼呢...
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04/01 22:43, 1小時前 , 96F
又瘋了一個
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04/01 22:45, 1小時前 , 97F
ivey傷前的得分穩定度比CC還好 還打出過4分打絕殺國
04/01 22:45, 97F
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04/01 22:45, 1小時前 , 98F
王 那時候有不少球迷說乾脆扶正ivey當老大算了
04/01 22:45, 98F
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04/01 22:45, 1小時前 , 99F
但是他錢滿多的應該不需要擔心
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04/01 22:46, 1小時前 , 100F
受大傷的又何止你一個 搞的這麼偏激就個人問題
04/01 22:46, 100F
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04/01 22:46, 1小時前 , 101F
以訓犬的邏輯，就是散步不夠多，讓他打滿48分鐘，
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04/01 22:46, 1小時前 , 102F
防守all switch ，搞不好很多問題都沒了
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04/01 22:47, 1小時前 , 103F
超慘 他還有3還4個小孩
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04/01 22:47, 1小時前 , 104F
看文字感覺是躁症
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04/01 22:48, 1小時前 , 105F
會瘋根本不意外阿 本來至少30M的續約價格 運鈔車直
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04/01 22:49, 1小時前 , 106F
唯一的辦法是他認份知道自己籃球夢沒了，拿著錢輕
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04/01 22:49, 1小時前 , 107F
鬆的生活，想要的話評論員教練工作都是唾手可得
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04/01 22:49, 1小時前 , 108F
接被撞走 還因為宗教的關係說不怪CA這都是神的安排
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04/01 22:51, 59分鐘前 , 109F
沒病識感真的有點無解…
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04/01 22:51, 59分鐘前 , 110F
只希望他身邊有人能帶他走出來了
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04/01 22:53, 57分鐘前 , 111F
整個人生被搞壞掉了…
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04/01 22:54, 56分鐘前 , 112F
球隊那樣 你也只能期待看看球員工會能幫多少…雖然
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04/01 22:54, 56分鐘前 , 113F
大概很難
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04/01 22:54, 56分鐘前 , 114F
不知足
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04/01 22:57, 53分鐘前 , 115F
其實他這種精神狀態，錢太多不是好事，會成為肥羊
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04/01 22:57, 53分鐘前 , 116F
我覺得找豪哥聊聊，應該會有幫助
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04/01 22:59, 51分鐘前 , 117F
現在可能某些有心人士已經盯上他
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04/01 23:00, 50分鐘前 , 118F
先假意迎合他，一起稱讚耶穌，再說要投入傳教基金
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04/01 23:00, 50分鐘前 , 119F
早就有人在利用他了lol
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04/01 23:09, 41分鐘前 , 120F
看起來需要找專業的心理治療 不是去找宗教
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04/01 23:10, 40分鐘前 , 121F
碰宗教只會陷入更多而已
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04/01 23:19, 31分鐘前 , 122F
看起來已經瘋一半了
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