Re: [外絮] 拓荒者老闆:不帶雙向是因我不夠了解NBA

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這老闆看下來其實就是標準的商人思維 把冰球大的那套直接搬來NBA 結果發現沒戲 連退房時間 發毛巾跟發T恤這種小事都要親自下去管 畫面想起來實在滿搞笑的= = 但至少願意承認自己不懂籃球圈的文化 也有試著去學習跟調整 雖然還是很小氣啦 這點就贏過某些...自以為很會的GM(無惡意 等下賽季看他怎麼治理球隊 就知道是摳門還是真不懂了 如果連教練團跟後勤的錢都要硬省 那阿拓球迷只能說 多保重了 不過有一說一 當GM好像很有趣餒 要是可以有個NBA經理人遊戲就好了笑死 我肯定灑錢養球隊 走一個豪門路線 ※ 引述《zxc906383 (無無)》之銘言: : 他真的當冰球隊在經營欸 : https://reurl.cc/dpAxOV : On the notion he’s cheap: : 關於有人認為他很摳門這件事 : “My hockey team has been over the cap many times. They were the lowest in the l : eague. They were at the floor when I bought them. You can go over the cap in hoc : key. If you have a hurt player, you can replace them. So I’ve been over the cap : multiple times because there was a rule that allowed you to go over the cap. An : d at the same time, when I walk out of a room, I turn off the lights. And so tha : t my friends make fun of me all the time. They’re telling me how bad I am at be : ing rich. : 「我的冰球隊很多次都超過薪資上限,他們原本是聯盟裡花費最低的球隊,我買下球隊時, : 他們甚至只在薪資下限附近,NHL允許你在球員受傷時超過薪資上限補人,所以我很多次都 : 超過上限,因為規則允許這麼做」 : 「但同時我離開房間時也會順手關燈,所以朋友總是笑我,他們都說我根本不會當有錢人」 : “I just don’t want to waste money. I want to invest it. I’ll have many masseu : ses. I’ll have the best food. We’re going to take care of the players, because : it helps you win. It’s part of the deal. Some of the stuff about how we’re go : ing to run the business; Portland spends 100 million more dollars a year on thei : r business than the Hurricanes do, not including players : 「我只是不想浪費錢我,想把錢拿去投資,球隊會有很多按摩師,也會提供最好的食物,我 : 們會好好照顧球員,因為這有助於贏球,這本來就是球隊運作的一部分」 : 「但有些關於球隊經營方式的事情——拓荒者每年在球隊營運上的支出,比卡羅萊納颶風隊 : 多出1億美元,而且這還不包含球員薪資」 : “The Hurricanes, since I bought the team, have the first or second-best record : in the league. So, I’m just not going to waste 100 million dollars, just becaus : e somebody wants to write an article calling me cheap. I’m just not going to do : it. And so, it’s hard because I don’t think about a budget when it comes to t : he playing team and how to make sure we win. Some of the stuff that was blamed o : n money is actually not 100% true.” : 「自從我買下颶風隊後,他們一直都是聯盟戰績前一、二名的球隊,所以我不會只是因為有 : 人想寫篇文章罵我摳門,就白白浪費1億美元,我不會這樣做」 : 「而且老實說,在球隊競爭力和如何贏球這件事上,我其實不太去想預算,有些被歸咎於『 : 省錢』的事情,其實並不完全是真的」 : On the decision not to travel with two-way players in the playoffs: : 關於季後賽不讓雙向合約球員隨隊客場的決定 : “I just made a mistake. I just don’t understand the league. In hockey, we don : ’t travel extra people, because we’re not on vacation. We’re here to win, so : we don’t want a distraction. The NBA seems to live with those distractions. It : ’s not how I think about it. So, you’ve got to learn what’s the differences b : etween the two leagues.” : 「我只是犯了錯,我其實還不夠了解這個聯盟」 : 「在冰球界,我們不會帶額外的人隨隊,因為我們不是去度假,我們是去贏球的,所以不想 : 要有任何干擾」 : 「但NBA似乎能接受這些事情,這不是我的思維方式,所以你必須去學習這兩個聯盟之間的 : 差異」 : On making traveling party (except players and coaches) check-out early from the : Phoenix hotel before the play-in game vs. the Suns: : 關於在對太陽附加賽前,要求隨隊人員(球員與教練除外)提前從鳳凰城飯店退房 : “The hotel story with the staff is an interesting story, I think, because, norm : ally, when you travel, you get late checkout, right? In this case, in sports, it : ’s usually like 5% and never comes up. Because it was last-minute — going to P : hoenix, there was no hotels — I guess Phoenix in March is a pretty popular plac : e. So, I had trouble getting hotels. And the hotel really wanted us to be out ea : rly because they needed the rooms. And so, they wanted us to pay for a second ni : ght. And so, we did that for the coaches and the players. But we got (them) to l : et us leave at 1 o’clock. And I had a room at the hotel. I was there. So, I’m : like, lunch starts at 1:45. We have a huge ballroom with this really nice lunch : for everybody. So, I said, ‘Look, we’ll do the players and the coaches. We’ll : stay. We’ll pay the extra night. For the staff, we’ve got this big ballroom w : ith food. We’ll go down there and work.’ And everyone was down there. I was do : wn there. I actually learned a lot during that hour, because I got to talk to so : me of the training staff, etc. : 「我覺得飯店那件事其實很有意思,通常出差旅行時,你都會要求延後退房,對吧?在體育 : 界這種情況其實只佔大概5%,幾乎不太會發生」 : 「但因為那次是臨時去鳳凰城,而當時根本沒什麼飯店空房——我猜鳳凰城三月是很熱門的 : 地方——所以我訂房遇到很多困難」 : 「飯店真的很希望我們早點退房,因為他們需要房間,所以他們要求我們多付一晚住宿費, : 於是我們替教練和球員支付了那筆費用」 : 「但我們協調到可以延到下午1點離開,我自己當時也住在那家飯店,午餐是1點45開始,我 : 們有一個很大的宴會廳,也準備了很棒的午餐給大家」 : 所以我就說:『球員和教練可以留在房間,我們付多一晚,但工作人員就到樓下宴會廳,有 : 食物也可以在那裡工作。』 : 「結果大家都在那裡,我自己也在,我其實在那一小時裡學到很多,因為我有機會和一些訓 : 練團隊的人聊天等等」 : On the decision to give fans free towels instead of free T-shirts during home pl : ayoff games: : 關於季後賽主場發送免費毛巾而不是免費T恤的決定 : “I wasn’t trying to save money. I just kind of thought t-shirts were kind of s : illy. They called me and said … ‘Do you want to do t-shirts?’ I’m like, ‘No : , let’s do towels.’ It was that long of a conversation. Because in Carolina, w : e do towels and it’s awesome. Like (fans at) the arenas, they’re all waving th : em. Well, I got to the Portland game, no one waved any towels. So we tried to ge : t t-shirts for the next game. I didn’t know t-shirts were such a thing, because : I hadn’t thought about the fact that in hockey, we’ve got jerseys, everybody : wants to wear their jersey. And so they don’t want t-shirts because they’ve go : t their jerseys. But in basketball, (that’s) not the case. They want to wear th : e t-shirt. : 「我不是想省錢,我只是覺得T恤有點蠢」 : 他們打電話問我:『你想發T恤嗎?』我就回:『不要,發毛巾吧』整段對話差不多就這麼 : 短 : 「因為在卡羅萊納,我們都是發毛巾,而且效果超棒,球場裡每個人都在揮毛巾」 : 「但我到了波特蘭的比賽後,發現根本沒人在揮毛巾,所以我們下一場就趕快改發T恤」 : 「我之前根本不知道T恤文化這麼重要,因為我沒想到冰球和籃球的差別,冰球迷通常都有 : 球衣,大家都想穿自己的球衣,所以不太需要T恤」 : 「但在籃球不是這樣,球迷真的會想穿那些T」 : https://x.com/MikeVorkunov/status/2055790972043145592 : Tom Dundon on not sending 2-way players on the road to the playoffs, on the Game : Over podcast: : "I'm just not gonna waste $100 million just because someone wants to write an ar : ticle calling me cheap. I'm not going to do it. It's hard because I don't think : of a budget when it comes to the playing team and how to make sure we win. Some : of the stuff that was blamed on money is actually not 100 percent true. That I t : hought about the money. Like on traveling players, I just made a mistake. I just : don't understand the league. In hockey we don't travel extra people because we' : re not on vacation, we're here to win. I don't want the distraction. The NBA see : ms to live with those distractions. It's not how I think about it. So you gotta : sort of have to learn." : https://i.imgur.com/eiass17.jpeg
: 拓荒者老闆Tom Dundon針對季後賽期間不讓雙向合約球員隨隊出征客場一事表示: : 「我就是不會只因為有人想寫篇文章罵我小氣,就去浪費一億美元,我絕對不幹這種事,這 : 很難,因為當涉及到上場比賽的隊伍以及如何確保我們贏球時,我其實根本不會去考慮預算 : ,某些被歸咎於錢的原因,實際上並非百分之百是事實——也就是說並非因為我計較那些錢 : 」 : 「例如在球員隨隊出征這件事上,我只是犯了個錯誤,單純是因為我不夠了解這個聯盟,在 : 冰球界我們不會讓多餘的人隨隊旅行,因為我們不是去度假的,我們是去贏球的,我不想帶 : 來分心的因素,但NBA似乎很習慣與這些分心事物共存,這不是我的思維方式,所以你多少 : 還是得去適應和學習」 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 82.140.187.23 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1779094100.A.DD5.html

05/18 16:49, 1小時前 , 1F
看2K會不會出一個My GM模式?
05/18 16:49, 1F

05/18 16:50, 1小時前 , 2F
我看下季 會怎麼做
05/18 16:50, 2F

05/18 16:55, 1小時前 , 3F
可是他總教練錢也要省啊,現在傳都是找助教等級的來
05/18 16:55, 3F

05/18 16:55, 1小時前 , 4F
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05/18 17:01, 1小時前 , 5F
三個臭皮匠勝過一個諸葛亮 一個等級不夠 多請幾個(x
05/18 17:01, 5F

05/18 17:06, 1小時前 , 6F
2K不是本來就有My GM模式嗎
05/18 17:06, 6F

05/18 17:07, 1小時前 , 7F
前老闆灑一堆也沒見有什麼成效
05/18 17:07, 7F

05/18 17:07, 1小時前 , 8F
灑錢跟會不會有成績兩回事
05/18 17:07, 8F

05/18 17:07, 1小時前 , 9F
2K很久沒玩了 原來有出My GM模式喔
05/18 17:07, 9F

05/18 17:08, 1小時前 , 10F
NBA 2K系列不是一直都有 只是NBA沒辦法玩豪門 有上
05/18 17:08, 10F

05/18 17:08, 1小時前 , 11F
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05/18 17:09, 1小時前 , 12F
NBA總教練薪資高低跟能力也沒什麼相關,跟經歷有關
05/18 17:09, 12F

05/18 17:09, 1小時前 , 13F
,薪資排行前列,一堆在這裡天天被噴,像那個Kerr、
05/18 17:09, 13F

05/18 17:09, 1小時前 , 14F
Monty、MB
05/18 17:09, 14F

05/18 17:13, 1小時前 , 15F
不是,管一支球隊不用商人思維是要用共產黨思維嗎XD
05/18 17:13, 15F

05/18 17:42, 41分鐘前 , 16F
我比較想知道管理一隻球隊不然要用甚麼思維
05/18 17:42, 16F

05/18 17:44, 39分鐘前 , 17F
比較想知道NHL其他老闆也小氣巴拉摳到不行這樣?
05/18 17:44, 17F

05/18 17:47, 36分鐘前 , 18F
我也想知道管理球隊不用商人思維要用甚麼思維?
05/18 17:47, 18F

05/18 17:59, 24分鐘前 , 19F
管球隊還是要懂球啦,不然就完全授權給總管
05/18 17:59, 19F

05/18 18:00, 23分鐘前 , 20F
商人思維就Sarver那樣啊,通常會導致最糟糕結果
05/18 18:00, 20F

05/18 18:12, 11分鐘前 , 21F
2k My GM應該超過十年了吧xD
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05/18 18:17, 6分鐘前 , 22F
他也沒小氣吧 只是還不夠懂NBA 你看他原本被詬病的
05/18 18:17, 22F

05/18 18:17, 6分鐘前 , 23F
那些都是冰球邏輯而言
05/18 18:17, 23F
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