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[外絮] 五項數據顯示Curry和一般球員不同

看板NBA (美國籃球)作者 (abstention)時間9年前 (2015/11/17 11:49), 9年前編輯推噓34(62推 28噓 71→)
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SB Nation的文章，標題是： 5 charts that show how much better Stephen Curry is than everyone else 這篇從PER,上場時間以及遠距離出手命中率數據來看Curry特別的地方， 以下簡短翻譯： 1. Steph is on track to have the best individual season ever. The top 10 single-season Player Efficiency Ratings (PER) of all-time. For Curry, the data is through 11 games. 整季PR值，Curry用目前十一場的平均： 1.Curry (2016)--35.4 2.Wilt (1963)--31.8 3.MJ (1988)--31.7 3.LBJ (2009)--31.7 3.Wilt (1962)--31.7 6.MJ (1991)--31.6 6.LBJ (2013)--31.6 6.Wilt (1964)--31.6 9.MJ (1992)--31.2 10.LBJ (2010)--31 2.He's making more threes than some teams. It's not enough that Curry is on track to shatter (his own) NBA records for threes made and attempted. In the process, he's going to go ahead and make more than some entire teams this season. That's how thoroughly he's changing the NBA: Some sophisticated teams can't even get as many looks from deep as he can. Curry至今投進的三分球數甚至比其他球隊加總同進的次數還多。 1. 熱火 (59) 2. 灰熊 (57) 3. 馬刺 (57) 4. Curry (57) 5. 灰狼 (52) 6. 籃網 (43) 3.Among the highest-usage stars in the NBA, Steph stands apart. This scatterplot shows the top 50 players in the league in usage rate (20 minutes per game minimum). Curry isn't No. 1 in usage rate -- he has talented co-workers, to be sure -- but among the most prolific stars in the league, Steph is by far the most efficient. 神奇的是，Curry並不是利用大量的上場時間完成這些數據的。 4. Steph doesn't even play much late. The curse of an incredible team: the Warriors usually have such big leads that Curry sits much, if not all of the fourth quarter. He's played 63 fourth-quarter minutes in 11 games, just under six per game. And he's still leading the league in scoring by no small margin. Here's his quarter-by-quarter scoring breakdown. Nearly 2/3rds of Steph's points come in the first and third quarters. One major reason: Curry plays fewer than six minutes per game in the fourth because it's usually garbage time. Curry並非靠垃圾時間刷分，他的得分有三分之二是來自於第一節和第三節， 過去十一場比賽，他在第四節平均上場時間少於六分鐘。 5. His range knows no bounds. Steph actually shoots better the further out he goes. He leads the league in attempts from beyond 25 feet by a wide margin with -- get this -- 8.1 shots per game. And he's hitting more than half of them. Here's how efficiently (in raw shooting percentage) the top 10 takers of beyond-25-footers shoot them. This chart shows the top 10 in attempts from 25-29 feet. Chef Curry shoots much more frequently (7.3 per game) and efficiently than anyone else in the league. If you move the line back, he'd still be killing it. Curry的射程範圍：在超過25呎之外的出手，Curry領先全聯盟， 在這些出手嘗試中他往往能夠命中一半以上。 25-29呎距離出手，命中率排名： 1.Curry (53.9%) 2.Evan Fournier (48.5%) 3.Kyle Lowry (43.9%) 4.Isaiah Canaan (40.5%) 5.Paul George (36.1%) 6.Eric Gordon (35.7%) 7.Kevin Love (32.5%) 8.Damian Lillard (30.2%) 9.James Harden (29.4%) 10.Nik Stauskas (26.8%) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 14.200.222.66 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1447732172.A.6DD.html
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11/17 11:50, , 1F
三年後下一個Curry表示：
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11/17 11:50, , 2F
只用前十場的pr值去比別人整季的pr值..
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前十一場
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11/17 11:51, , 4F
你沒看內文嗎二樓 那些人也是用前11場的PR值來比
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11/17 11:51, , 5F
其實就是準啊
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11/17 11:51, , 6F
如果打完82場維持這種數字 我發200份雞排
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11/17 11:52, , 7F
沒達成就換你請200份雞排 有沒有人敢跟我對賭的
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樓上 已存檔
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你確定你所謂的那些人也是用前11場的PR值來比??
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歡迎存檔 要對賭的人歡迎來找我
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11/17 11:53, , 11F
不知道是誰沒看內文 呵呵
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11/17 11:53, , 12F
2樓看清楚點在來酸吧
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11/17 11:53, , 13F
明明是整季vs11場
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看來某些人該去看眼科了 頗喝
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11/17 11:54, , 15F
The top 10 single-season (PER) of all-time.
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11/17 11:54, , 16F
整季vs前十一場zz
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整季PR值，Curry用目前十一場的平均
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For Curry, the data is through 11 games.
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11/17 11:54, , 19F
這個對賭...看清楚吧
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11/17 11:55, , 20F
其他人是整季 VS CURRY 的11場...
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11/17 11:55, , 21F
有些人臉真腫 連原文都不看呵呵
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11/17 11:55, , 22F
打2K都沒他這麼猛
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有些人英文也太爛惹，唉
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11/17 11:55, , 24F
雞排論又來了
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一堆人打臉打到自己
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11/17 11:56, , 26F
整季PR值，Curry用目前十一場的平均 => 11場比整季
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11/17 11:56, , 27F
整季vs11場沒錯 不要亂酸二樓
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11/17 11:56, , 28F
英文去學好再來講...
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11/17 11:56, , 29F
%%數據大師高潮%%
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11/17 11:57, , 30F
阿沒人敢對賭 存檔有屁用喔?
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11/17 11:57, , 31F
推文的某N跟某S，多念書，好嗎 ^^
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2k咖喱三分有點難進...
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11/17 11:57, , 33F
學不好被打臉在那硬凹很丟臉的 哪間學校出來的??
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11/17 11:57, , 34F
sorry 沒寫清楚 是別人整季vs咖哩前十一場
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11/17 11:58, , 35F
被打臉就說沒看清楚 頗喝...
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11/17 11:58, , 36F
都已經4個月過去了 還在追殺...
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11/17 11:58, , 37F
2樓哪裡錯zz
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11/17 11:58, , 38F
標題我有點看不太懂
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11/17 11:58, , 39F
第一個比較根本沒意義，至少也打個24場之後再來看
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還有 83 則推文
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11/17 13:22, , 123F
PER到季末一定會因為調整準備季後賽下修 這沒啥好賭
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11/17 13:26, , 124F
內文不都說單季vs11場了…而且Curry PER一定會下修
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的，再怎樣變態大概也是落在30～32，雖然這樣已經是
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名副其實的第一人了
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11/17 13:40, , 127F
真的會賭才有鬼 勝率已經很低了賭贏了也沒賺到東西
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11/17 13:43, , 128F
打完整季在比才有價值
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11/17 13:45, , 129F
不知道蠢啥，Curry很強沒錯，但是列出來的那些球星
11/17 13:45, 129F
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擺明了要用同一標準去量化不是不行，非要拿兩把尺
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擺明了譁眾取寵
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11/17 13:52, , 132F
阿不就挑 利的場次比
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拿kobe 連續40+場慘來也很高阿
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11/17 13:55, , 134F
現在唯一問題就是不能換教練，一換教練氣就不同了
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Curry拿過一次總冠軍 開始神話了
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11/17 14:09, , 136F
他本季目前為止就是神話 請面對現實
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11/17 14:15, , 137F
問題是還不是FMVP 呵呵
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11/17 14:15, , 138F
嗯,Curry神一般存在,大家快來拜
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11/17 14:23, , 139F
Curry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MJ
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感覺每天都有CURRY的造神文.......
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11/17 14:35, , 141F
等數據掉下來就不會有這類文章了 維持住就真神了
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11/17 15:14, , 142F
Curry就連去年MVP的成績 沒戰績根本不算突出
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11/17 15:22, , 143F
dlo天花板,三年後換我湖挑戰72勝
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11/17 15:31, , 144F
翻譯 老子中場前 就要射爆你們 剩下來給隊友收尾
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11/17 15:46, , 145F
雞排我要定了
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11/17 16:28, , 146F
只是curry那種打法還真的不是那麼好守
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11/17 17:14, , 147F
2樓沒錯阿
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11/17 17:27, , 148F
怎麼NBA版長會有這種跑出來打自己穩贏的賭
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然後還可以大小聲的阿...
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11/17 17:31, , 150F
噓第四節神隱6分鐘
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11/17 17:46, , 151F
只想賭自己穩贏的還怪沒有人要跟他賭 頗ㄏ
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11/17 18:50, , 152F
你有一句翻錯了，usage rate是在場上的出手比率
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所以應該翻成curry並不是用高出手次數來完成這些數
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據
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打賭勒你要不要算個賠率在講話
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(因為高usage%球員在衝高per很吃香)
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當初MCW的幾場驚人抄截數據 也是被拿來捧 結果後來
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就科科了
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11/17 19:52, , 159F
某迷以為扯到LBJ迷 二樓就會變錯的了
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11/17 19:58, , 160F
英文學好很難?
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11/17 20:29, , 161F
我要吃雞排
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