[外絮] Phil對用了Posse這個字感到後悔

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從事情發生至今只用一個奇怪的推特文回應過的Phil （要大家去捐錢一個用了Posse這個字的相關慈善機構）這次終於中規中矩的回應了原文 https://goo.gl/286n8y Knicks president Phil Jackson says he made a mistake in talking about another team's player when he made comments about LeBron James last month that included the word "posse" in describing the Cavaliers star's business associates. Phil Jackson說自己犯了個錯誤去討論他隊隊員，包含用了 posse這個字去形容Lebron的經紀人朋友們。 "That's a topic I'm not going to discuss because one, we are not supposed to discuss other teams' players in this position that I have here. So I violated one of the tenets of our thing," Jackson said in an interview on the CBS Sports Network that aired Tuesday. 「我並不打算繼續在這個議題上打轉，因為我們並不應該在這個節骨眼去討論別隊的球員。所以我之前的確犯了這個不該犯的錯。」 Phil Jackson今天在接受CBS的訪問時如是說。 "The obvious thing is, the word itself carries connotation. And I just don't understand that, that part of it -- the word," Jackson added. "So I guess word choice could be something I could regret. But talking about other teams' players, that's out of the box." 「很明顯的事實就是這個字的確帶了一些不一樣的引申意在，而我的確沒有明瞭到這一點，關於這個字的意思。所以我想在用字遣詞上的確是一件我會後悔的事。不過基本上我認為我更不該做的事是去談論其他隊的球員。」 James and business partner Maverick Carter slammed Jackson last month for what they perceived was an intended slight by the 11- time championship coach when he retold a story about James' days with the Miami Heat in an interview with ESPN's Jackie MacMullan. LeBron和他的商業夥伴們上個月曾經為了posse這個字和Phil 槓上。 James said on Monday that he has no interest in meeting with Jackson while the Cavaliers are in New York to play the Knicks on Wednesday night. LeBron昨天說她並沒有打算在紐約和Phil見面談論此事。 Jackson also didn't feel the need to address the issue with James. Phil同樣也不認為會面是必要的。 "No. It's water under the bridge," he said. "I don't think there was anybody hurt or harmed in this situation. I think LeBron's friend [Carter] obviously had an issue with it. We just let it go. It's not enough to talk about it." 「不用，這件事就讓船過水無痕，我不認為有人實質上受到了什麼傷害。我想LeBron的好友Carter的確是對這件事有意見。我們應該讓這事過去。這並不足以讓我們刻意去對話。」 Jackson used the term "posse" to describe James' business associates when discussing James' leaving the Miami Heat in free agency. 回顧Phil用posse的訪問。 "It had to hurt when they lost LeBron," Jackson said. "That was definitely a slap in the face. But there were a lot of little things that came out of that. When LeBron was playing with the Heat, they went to Cleveland, and he wanted to spend the night. They don't do overnights. Teams just don't. So now [coach Erik] Spoelstra has to text [Pat] Riley and say, 'What do I do in this situation?' And Pat, who has iron-fist rules, answers: 'You are on the plane. You are with this team.' You can't hold up the whole team because you and your mom and your posse want to spend an extra night in Cleveland. "I always thought Pat had this really nice vibe with his guys. But something happened there where it broke down. I do know LeBron likes special treatment. He needs things his way." Jackson was also asked during the CBS Sports Network interview about Golden State coach Steve Kerr's use of medicinal marijuana to recover from back surgery. He said he used marijuana during his own recovery from back surgery. Phil也被問到對於Steve Kerr用大麻的看法。 "The year that I was off I was smoking marijuana during that period of time. I think it was a distraction for me as much as a pain reliever," Jackson said. "But I never thought of it as ultimately a pain medication for that type of situation." 「我在背傷復原的期間也是有吸大麻。不過對我而言大麻是讓我忘憂的方式而不全然是用來止痛。基本上我從來不把大麻看成是個止痛藥就是了。」 Jackson said marijuana was "something that we either have to accommodate or figure out another way to deal with it." Phil也認為聯盟要用更聰明的方式去看待大麻。 "We have tried to stop [marijuana use] in the NBA," Jackson said. "I don't think we have been able to stop it. I think it still goes on and is still a part of the culture in the NBA." 「聯盟曾經試過停止大麻使用，但是我認為這是很難成功的。大麻是NBA文化的一部分。」＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝心得：要老人家承認自己用錯字真的不容易，雖然說得很隱諱不過也算是 Phil在這件事情上承認犯錯了? 至於有些人還搞不清楚狀況說是LeBron他們反應過度的，我在美國主流媒體上就這件事還沒看過半個人站在Phil這邊的，印象中包括McHail，T-Mac, Miller, Magic, Webber SAS甚至Skip Bayless都明白說Phil錯了，唯一幫Phil說過話的是一個廣播節目的主持人Dan Le Batard說Phil只是用了老派的字，應無惡意。至於說為啥LeBron會提到非裔美人做得還不夠等等讓人覺得是否暗示種族歧視我想的確很難跟住在台灣的人解釋清楚。這樣說好了，平平都是運動員身邊掛的那一大票朋友群，白人名運動員旁邊的那些人一般會叫做entourage 黑人名運動員旁邊的那些人則會被叫做posse 基本上絕對不會交叉使用，即使這兩個字並沒有所謂「種族歧視」的意味但是entourage代表的是 friends that do things for you 而posse代表的則是friends that take things from you 也就是說即使這群人基本上屬性相同（都是掛在名人旁邊的那群人）身為白人在用詞上就是偏向「良師益友」正向意義的entourage 黑人就變成是偏向「狐群狗黨」負面意義的posse 所以這樣算有沒有種族歧視意義呢？即使字的本身沒有歧視意義... 更別提LeBron的四人幫朋友也算是努力出了成績，你可以說是還不是LeBron幫的？但是如同LeBron自己說的，他給他們的是機會，去認識最棒的企業家和經紀人，從零學起到今天的地位他們也很努力卻被說成是posse才會感到生氣罷了。現在Phil在明天兩隊開戰前出來緩頰，至於夠不夠力明天就知道了 ^^ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 71.190.235.105 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1481082937.A.853.html

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