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[外絮] CBS記者：LBJ應該對湖人隊的失敗負全責

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Why LeBron James deserves full blame for Lakers' failures, and should no longer have say in solution By Bill Reiter https://reurl.cc/DdG29Q It's LeBron James' fault. 一切都是LBJ的錯。 The Los Angeles Lakers' postseason hopes are officially over, the future seems bleak, and heads are likely to roll. Head coach Frank Vogel is widely expected to face a reckoning. The Lakers would like to find a way to offload Russell Westbrook, unlikely though that may be, after he almost surely opts in to his $47 million, final year option this summer. 湖人這季季後賽正式告吹。需要開始對這季的失敗問責。 Vogal預計會被裁掉。 湖人會想要處理掉西河，但西河應該會選擇他的球員選項。 Fingers can be pointed all around at a Lakers season that is a wreckage of the high hopes when the season began: At Russ, at Vogel, at Anthony Davis' injuries, at a front office that put as ill-fitting a team as possible around their all-time great superstar. But it is, ultimately, the fault of the person in the Lakers organization with the most say and the most power who is to blame -- the one who used that sway to put into place all the elements that have led L.A. to where it now stands, with a failed season behind them and no clear path forward. 然而賽季失敗的最主要原因，追根究柢應該由隊上最有發言權和權勢的人負責。 是他利用他的影響力，使這些所有失敗的因素來到湖人隊。 This is all LeBron James' fault. 這都是LBJ的錯。 The Catch-22 of LeBron's all-time greatness has always been the out-weighted influence he's exuded on a team. His wants have often been paramount to the plan, even his actual needs. But the juice has always been worth the squeeze. His call for player power in the NBA always had a sheen of success because he succeeded at every turn, regardless of how he wielded that power. LBJ的球員生涯能取得成功，一部分是出自於他對球隊超然的影響力。 不管他如何運用這些權利，他最終似乎都會取得成功。 Chris Bosh as perhaps the wrong fit with LeBron and Dwyane Wade? No worries. Championships ensued anyway. Kevin Love for Andrew Wiggins, JR Smith as a key cog and a host of other moves quietly -- or not so quietly -- pushed by the King turning out to not exactly be the stuff for an executive-of-the-year resume? Who cares? Finals appearances, and an actual championship for Cleveland, arrived nonetheless. Bosh、Love都被質疑過與LBJ的向性，甚至有球員不是管理層想要的。 然而最後都打到了Finals，並且奪冠。 But time comes for everyone, even basketball royalty. And we've now reached the point where LeBron requires more help on the court than his influence off it has allowed. 但最終，就算是LBJ，需要的是在球場上的幫助，已經不能單靠他隊球場外的影響力了。 It should have been no secret that A.D. was injury prone, and that his only successfully complete and deep run in the playoffs came in an anomalous COVID season in which the shutdown served him, and the Lakers, well. 大家都知道AD是院長，所以Covid造成的泡泡賽季反而對他是利多，湖人才能打出成績。 Other truths that have turned the Lakers from contenders to disasters weren't exactly hard-to-forecast shockers. Westbrook has been more statistical-marvel than impact-player for a long time, and the notion he -- from his game, from his need to have the ball in his hands, from his track record of disappointment with other stars -- would not work with LeBron was obvious to almost everyone in the NBA. 湖人今年會失敗根本不難預測，西河並不是一個有影響力的球員，簡而言之是一個刷子。 他根本就沒辦法跟LBJ搭配。 Except, as we all knew and Magic Johnson recently confirmed, one LeBron James. Remember: Vogel is likely going to get fired, but it's him and his staff who properly wanted Westbrook gone at the All-Star break. Being right in LeBron's universe doesn't matter, just as being wrong often didn't if your name was LeBron James. The rule was simple: LeBron's way was the only way, and the tradeoff was worthwhile. 請記住，Vogal高機率被炒，但他與他的團隊都想要西河走。 但在LBJ的宇宙，對的事情並不重要。 規則很簡單，LBJ就是唯一的規則。 There's more examples. Alex Caruso and his value to the team being utterly overlooked. Carmelo Anthony as a solution despite his obvious decline and lack of postseason success. Passing on Buddy Hield. Forgetting LeBron, more than anything else, needs to be surrounded by shooters. And athletes who can defend . 還有其他失敗的例子，例如放掉Caruso、甜瓜明顯也老了、放棄Buddy Hield。 完全忘記LBJ是需要一群射手以及厲害的防守球員。 The ins and outs of building a successful basketball team require a general manager capable of making the right, difficult calls. And on a LeBron James team -- or, at least now, this LeBron James team -- that means telling him no when, say, he decides he wants Westbrook over Demar DeRozan or several promising players in place of one star. 如果要建立一個成功的LBJ球隊，需要一個能夠阻止LBJ選西河放棄DeRozen的經理。 Remember, LeBron's good friend Rich Paul, who's now his agent, runs an agency that is strongly involved in the makeup of the Lakers. Paul asking or cajoling for something is the same as LeBron doing so, when it was nabbing A.D. or taking Talen Horton-Tucker (a Paul client) over Caruso (not one). LBJ的好朋友也是他的經紀人，富保羅，對於湖人隊影響亦很深。 最明顯的例子是他留住THT，放棄Carus，THT是他的客戶，後者並不是。 Klutch Sports, Paul's agency, at the center of moves that impact LeBron is a very, very thin veneer trying to disguise the fact the Lakers' best player has his hands all over the team's makeup and construction. That was easy to overlook, or not care about, when LeBron was winning titles and rattling off Finals appearances year after year after year after year after year. 這一切原因都很容易被忽略，當LBJ一直打進Finals，甚至贏得冠軍。 Yes, LeBron James is still a marvel, even at 37 years old. His 30/8/6 is astounding and means, with the right team, he can continue to be in the thick of NBA title runs. But he can no longer eclipse on the court what he's wrought off of it. LBJ仍然是一個很厲害的球員，但他在球場上的表現已經不能再掩飾他球場外的行為。 LeBron likes to refer to himself as King James. But here's the thing about royalty: The problem with powerful aristocracies included having power without a system in place to force accountability, responsibility and course corrections. That led to sycophants with too much influence, no bad news or candid advice flowing upward and rivals getting stronger and better because they were willing and able to do what was necessary rather than flattering. LBJ喜歡稱自己為國王。 但強大的皇室若沒有責問機制及改正的方向，將導致阿諛奉承者的影響力過多，沒有諫言 最後對手越來越強，因為對手願意做對的事情，而不是聽蜜語。 Kings and queens make fine figureheads. But as rulers, in the long run, they' re much more likely to fail. 國王跟皇后可以當一個很好的代言人。但最為統治者，長遠來看，很有可能失敗。 It's time for the NBA's king to accept that in order to retain his throne he needs someone else to govern his kingdom: A GM -- Rob Pelinka, maybe, or someone else -- who is fully entrusted with decision-making aimed at giving LeBron James what he needs rather than what he wants. 現在是時候讓 NBA 的國王接受，為了保住他的王位，他需要其他人來管理他的王國：一 位總經理——也許是羅伯·佩林卡，或者其他人 一個能夠做出LBJ需要什麼決策，而不是他想要什麼的人。 The Lakers are a mess. But all of it -- Westbrook, A.D.'s very-predictable fragility, the lack of depth and defense, the lack of shooting, the entire makeup of the team -- was a LeBron James production. 湖人就是一團混亂，西河跟AD的糟糕表現、爛防守、爛投籃。 這一切都是LBJ的作品。 He's to blame. And until he accepts it, and changes, and gets the help now even he needs, things aren't going to improve for him or the Lakers. 他是罪魁禍首。直到他願意改變或接受，他跟湖人隊才能變好。 ....... 心得： 雖然就是一篇罵LBJ的文章，原因也眾所皆知。 但內文其實蠻有趣的，各種比喻。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.200.1.104 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1649325053.A.46B.html
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04/07 17:51, 3年前 , 1F
某族群：惡意檢討LBJ 該捅
04/07 17:51, 1F
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04/07 17:51, 3年前 , 2F
這記者有LBJ懂籃球嗎XD
04/07 17:51, 2F
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04/07 17:52, 3年前 , 3F
開始了開始了
04/07 17:52, 3F
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04/07 17:52, 3年前 , 4F
LBJ的新聞比準備打季後賽的隊伍還精彩
04/07 17:52, 4F
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04/07 17:53, 3年前 , 5F
湖人季後賽正式開打!!!誰說湖人沒季後賽???
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04/07 17:53, 3年前 , 6F
湖人隊的附加賽開打了
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04/07 17:53, 3年前 , 7F
這都是LBJ的錯
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 8F
還沒季後賽啦 季後賽應該是暑假簽約交易那段
04/07 17:54, 8F
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 9F
花修唉度
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 10F
老詹不防守只想刷數據
04/07 17:54, 10F
噓
04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 11F
富保幫球員賺錢到底關姆斯什麼事...
04/07 17:54, 11F
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 12F
詹迷快來護駕
04/07 17:54, 12F
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 13F
又一個詹酸 嘴爽沒
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04/07 17:54, 3年前 , 14F
球隊老大不負全責說不過去啊
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04/07 17:55, 3年前 , 15F
附加賽 湖人版
04/07 17:55, 15F
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04/07 17:55, 3年前 , 16F
球隊老大不是ad嗎 lbj自己講的
04/07 17:55, 16F
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04/07 17:55, 3年前 , 17F
泡泡賽對院長型球員利多沒錯啊，球季打一半休好幾個
04/07 17:55, 17F
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 18F
真的蠻好笑的XD
04/07 17:56, 18F
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 19F
幾年前吹到不行的隨插即用 證明一堆隊友跟姆斯一隊
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 20F
就被弱化 吹到不行的無球 也證明根本沒那個能力
04/07 17:56, 20F
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 21F
月才又繼續打，等於放一個暑假，沒看KP在泡泡也很威
04/07 17:56, 21F
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 22F
這篇才是真的 只是刷分、插腰防守不可能爛到0輪
04/07 17:56, 22F
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04/07 17:56, 3年前 , 23F
原來球隊老大是AD 那姆斯果然是個抱腿仔嘛
04/07 17:56, 23F
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04/07 17:57, 3年前 , 24F
咦 季後賽先發LBJ 這麼早開打啊??
04/07 17:57, 24F
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04/07 17:57, 3年前 , 25F
沒錯 照這篇邏輯之前奪冠也全部是LBJ功勞
04/07 17:57, 25F
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04/07 17:57, 3年前 , 26F
確實，刷了整季不防守，球隊完全沒有化學反應
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 27F
真正的湖人季後賽
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 28F
LBJ vs 忍者龜 誰的錯？
04/07 17:58, 28F
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 29F
不是欸 這篇說是老詹負全責 但根本沒什麼指責老詹阿
04/07 17:58, 29F
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 30F
院長型的球員應該都很希望球季打一半休1.2個月再
04/07 17:58, 30F
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 31F
富保跟老詹是分別獨立的個體好嗎 酸酸不要鬧
04/07 17:58, 31F
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 32F
覺得是AD太痛了
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 33F
繼續打下半季，與其暑假這麼長不如拆一點到季中休
04/07 17:58, 33F
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 34F
Rich Paul談合約跟RMBJ無關？笑死
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04/07 17:58, 3年前 , 35F
說老詹負全責 結果全文都在罵AD跟龜 老詹決策錯誤
04/07 17:58, 35F
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04/07 17:59, 3年前 , 36F
確實
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04/07 17:59, 3年前 , 37F
這應該是各個院長型球員最希望的球季模式
04/07 17:59, 37F
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04/07 18:00, 3年前 , 38F
罵老詹的只是看走眼 跟安插自己人 跟球場表現無關?
04/07 18:00, 38F
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04/07 18:00, 3年前 , 39F
NBA的國王只有一個，就是沙加緬度國王
04/07 18:00, 39F
還有 422 則推文
還有 3 段內文
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04/07 23:24, 3年前 , 462F
15取10也進不了，跟一堆傷兵什麼關係
04/07 23:24, 462F
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04/07 23:24, 3年前 , 463F
笑死 這篇根本表面上說老詹負責 除了THT那段指責留T
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04/07 23:24, 3年前 , 464F
HT放AC其他根本拐個彎把鍋甩走
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04/07 23:24, 3年前 , 465F
整篇最不該扯的就是甜瓜
04/07 23:24, 465F
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04/07 23:26, 3年前 , 466F
檢討羌沒檢討到場上喪氣的動作 不回防插腰 場下沒
04/07 23:26, 466F
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04/07 23:26, 3年前 , 467F
檢討動員外圍施壓交易搞到滿城風雨都沒打到點上
04/07 23:26, 467F
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04/07 23:32, 3年前 , 468F
湖人隊的季後賽正式開打了
04/07 23:32, 468F
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04/07 23:38, 3年前 , 469F
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04/07 23:48, 3年前 , 470F
羌酸噴爽沒
04/07 23:48, 470F
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04/07 23:50, 3年前 , 471F
開始批鬥囉 湖人隊的專屬季後賽開啟了
04/07 23:50, 471F
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04/07 23:53, 3年前 , 472F
反正詹皇準備離隊囉，掰
04/07 23:53, 472F
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04/08 00:03, 3年前 , 473F
這些論點都有人講過了 鞭屍而已
04/08 00:03, 473F
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04/08 00:06, 3年前 , 474F
找龜就是最大的錯誤
04/08 00:06, 474F
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04/08 00:21, 3年前 , 475F
不可能啦 他數據刷的好看的咧
04/08 00:21, 475F
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04/08 00:22, 3年前 , 476F
從來都不會是數據好看的人領繩
04/08 00:22, 476F
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04/08 00:23, 3年前 , 477F
其實是湖人不想給他頂薪故意用媒體攻擊他逼他自己喊
04/08 00:23, 477F
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04/08 00:23, 3年前 , 478F
吹密吧
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04/08 00:33, 3年前 , 479F
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04/08 00:36, 3年前 , 480F
龜上季帶Beal跟魚蝦蟹就進季後賽 不會用就說不用酸
04/08 00:36, 480F
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04/08 00:37, 3年前 , 481F
遠坂姆斯
04/08 00:37, 481F
噓
04/08 01:01, 3年前 , 482F
姆迷：都是龜的錯，不認同就是詹酸，不然就是狗
04/08 01:01, 482F
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04/08 01:05, 3年前 , 483F
這篇講下來老詹要負全責的原因是因為AD跟龜表現不
04/08 01:05, 483F
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04/08 01:05, 3年前 , 484F
如預期嘛
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04/08 03:30, 3年前 , 485F
確實
04/08 03:30, 485F
噓
04/08 05:39, 3年前 , 486F
造反喔
04/08 05:39, 486F
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04/08 07:21, 3年前 , 487F
其實就是老了 宰制力已經不夠了
04/08 07:21, 487F
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04/08 07:36, 3年前 , 488F
真的老了
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04/08 07:46, 3年前 , 489F
老了
04/08 07:46, 489F
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04/08 08:48, 3年前 , 490F
合理啦 老詹要當看板球星 就是要扛得起球隊
04/08 08:48, 490F
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04/08 08:48, 3年前 , 491F
球團打造球隊 老大哥也是要負責良好的化學反應
04/08 08:48, 491F
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04/08 08:50, 3年前 , 492F
所以湖人的鍋 老詹還是自己得揹
04/08 08:50, 492F
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04/08 08:50, 3年前 , 493F
希望消化完後 還能再有所成長
04/08 08:50, 493F
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04/08 09:11, 3年前 , 494F
能解讀成奪冠全是LBJ的功勞也是天才了
04/08 09:11, 494F
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04/08 09:15, 3年前 , 495F
整篇文章非常中肯
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04/08 09:24, 3年前 , 496F
阿諛奉承者 可憐哪
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04/08 15:39, 3年前 , 497F
確實
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04/08 18:46, 3年前 , 498F
推！中肯。
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04/08 18:47, 3年前 , 499F
推！中肯。
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04/08 21:45, 3年前 , 500F
把教練跟院長當空氣？
04/08 21:45, 500F
噓
04/09 10:00, 3年前 , 501F
這篇是反串吧 在嘴酸酸什麼都要怪LBJ XD
04/09 10:00, 501F
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