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※ 引述《pleased ()》之銘言: : Grading the Yankees: Bombers Sweep Mariners : by Jordan Schwartz (Analyst) May 04, 2008 : http://myurl.com.tw/n0sd (bleacherreport.com) : Go figure. : Last week, the Yankees' bats were silenced by a trio of Detroit pitchers who : entered their starts with a combined record of 1-8. The Bombers then turn : around and win three straight games against Seattle gunslingers Erik Bedard, : Felix Hernandez and Carlos Silva, who entered their starts with a combined : tally of 7-1. 上禮拜洋基對老虎, 打線不振, 被老虎扣豆, 不過這次對水手三連戰 就打得還不錯, 三戰全勝. : Of course New York's pitching also had something to do with the weekend : three-game sweep of the Mariners. Chien-Ming Wang started it off with yet : another gem on Friday night, Mike Mussina continued his resurgence on : Saturday afternoon, and then recent call-up Darrell Rasner impressed on : Sunday. 講(美國時間)上個星期五晚上及星期六下午, 對水手的前兩戰先交給 了王建民與穆西納, 星期天的第三戰則交給最近才排入先發的 Rasner. : Rasner appears to be the Yanks' new number four guy, now that Phil Hughes has : been placed on the DL and Ian Kennedy has been demoted to the minor leagues : following an awful start to the season. I have no problem with Rasner : filling one of those two open spots in the rotation. He was dominating in : Scranton to the tune of a sub-1.00 ERA. What I do take issue with is who the : Pinstripes are talking about filling the number five spot. 休斯->傷兵名單, 甘迺迪->3A 在這情況下依 Rasner 的表現, 把他拉來排入先發輪值名單, 是正常情 況下的考量. 該文作者是想說, 要怎麼填滿五人輪值表? : Kei Igawa, who New York spent $46 million on to bring from Japan last year, : is a mediocre 3-3 with a 3.86 ERA in seven starts at Triple-A in 2008. The : left-hander was terrible on the Major League level last season, finishing 2-3 : with a 6.25 ERA in 14 games, including 12 starts. It's yet another guy being : put in the rotation ahead of Joba Chamberlain, who is definitely among the : top five starters in the organization. 井川慶或許是一個適當的人選, 洋基當初花了四千六百萬得到他, 不好好運用一下實在太浪費了. 依井川去年 14 次出場, 12 次先發, 戰績 2 勝 3 敗,以及 ERA 6.25 的表現, 我想該文作者的意思就是, 對照現今開季休斯與阿 甘的表現, 以及現在牛棚的情況, 或許可以把井川慶調上來再練看 看, 反正再差也不過就是這樣. 另一個適當人選自然是張伯倫. 該文作者先提井川, 大概是心裡也 認為張伯倫擺在中繼比較穩當, 特別是現在的勝利方程式組合還不 是夠多的情況. : And now the Yankees' grades for their last five games. : Joe Girardi, Manager: (B-)During a season in which the bullpen has been : overworked because of bad starts by Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, shouldn't : you give the relievers rest when you can? Girardi pulled Wang after just 90 : pitches Friday, Mussina was allowed to throw just 84 on Saturday, and Rasner : issued only 76 pitches on Sunday. All three starters were cruising when they : were lifted, but luckily for the manager, the bullpen pitched well every time. 那再來的五場比賽咧?(洋基星期一休兵一天) 吉拉迪是說, 休斯跟甘迺迪常常達不到撐滿五局的基本要求, 使得 牛棚有點操過頭了, 吉拉迪在之前的比賽開打前, 是設定王上場的 話投個90球差不多, 穆西納的話 84 球差不多, Rasner 的話 76球 就好了...... (這三個先發如果表現穩定的話其實用球數大致上還蠻省的) 牛棚最近的表現也好多了(例如老方不再放火了XD)... : Johnny Damon, LF: (A) The lead-off man continued his hot hitting this week, : going 7 for 17, including a home run on Saturday. He also made an : outstanding diving catch in Sunday's win. 大門最近棒子很燙. : Derek Jeter, SS: (A) The Captain's been on fire as well, going 7-10 over the : weekend. 提到 Jeter, 通常表現好就是指他比較少打DP了:p 沒啦, 隊長最近棒子也很燙, DP 比較少了(雖然還是常打標準DP球) : Bobby Abreu, RF: (A) Four straight multi-hit games for Abreu. The 0-3 on : Wednesday keeps him from receiving an A+. 阿布讚哪! : Hideki Matsui, DH: (A-)This is who should be batting cleanup during A-Rod's : absence. Not Shelly Duncan (.182 avg) and certainly not Jason Giambi (.150 : avg). Generally, you want a good hitter batting fourth. Girardi finally : seems to be catching on. 若要說阿肉不在的期間, 誰可以擔下第四棒重任的話, 馬祖以是比 雪莉及大吉都還要稱職的人選. (不過我覺得馬祖以還是適合打第五棒, 第四棒有時給雪莉其實也不 錯, 讓年輕人打打第四棒有時也頗有激勵作用, 雪莉打第四棒時如 果安打上壘都蠻開心的, 而且還蠻聽話的, 不會像之前那樣讓人感 覺很衝動. 不過常打盲砲這點真的要再改善) : Jason Giambi, 1B: (D-) No hits in his last 10 at bats, hitting .150 in May, : team is 12-14 with him and 5-2 without, team was 42-41 with him last year and : 52-27 without. Still batting fifth. 大吉, 其實我自己是覺得, 他是典型的不能依他的打擊率來論定他 表現的打者, 有不錯的選球眼, 揮大棒時偶爾會造成對方投手的傷 害, 所以就數字來看他的打擊率是很低沒錯, 但是吉拉迪還是會有 把他擺在第五棒的時候. (其實我覺得大吉擺第七or第八棒不錯, 可以製造兩個中心棒次,讓 對方投手一刻也無法放鬆) : Melky Cabrera, CF: (A-)Here's the guy who should be hitting fifth. He's six : for his last 20, including a big two-run homer on Sunday, bringing his : average up to .291. That's 141 points higher than the Giamzero. Cabrera : also has more home runs and RBIs than the worthless guy batting ahead of him. 牛奶弟讚啊。 原作者認為他才是最佳的第五棒,最近表現很夯, 打擊率 2 成 91 哩, 全壘打數以及打點都頗優. : Robinson Cano, 2B: (D) Cano went 2-14 over the last five games, but hopefully : his homer Sunday is a sign of things to come. 提到台灣之友總是要先嘆一聲. 不過原作者對他還是抱持著希望. : Morgan Ensberg, 3B: (C-) Ensberg has played the last four games at the hot : corner, picking up four hits in 16 at bats and committing an error on : Saturday. Ensberg is hitting just .220 now and I'd really like to see : Alberto Gonzalez split more time with Morgan during A-Rod's absence. 俺是寶的部份, 其實近三場比賽他表現還算 ok, 打擊率兩成 2, 不過原作者比較希望看到 Gonzales 跟 Morgan 多出來幾次. : Alberto Gonzalez, 3B: (D)Gonzalez got just one start at third base over the : past five days, but Girardi also put the kid at second base on Friday, : replacing the struggling Cano. Gonzalez went 1-7 in the two starts, but is : still hitting .269. 原作者對 Gonzales 蠻誇的, 能打, 能跑, 但現在只有當 Cano 坐板凳時 Gonzales 才有出場的機會, : Chad Moeller, C: (D-)It's good to see Moeller back with the Yankees after : being designated for assignment. Chad got two starts in the past five games, : going 1-8 but he's still hitting .286. The M's also only stole one base off : of him. 原作者很高興看到 Moeller 排在先發九人. : Jose Molina, C: (F)That's more than can be said of Molina, who allowed six : stolen bases in the three games he started last week. He failed to throw out : a single base stealer and went just 1-9 at the plate, dropping his average to : a woeful .224. I'd say Moeller is the better catcher at this point. 二哥, 阿門, 原作者覺得目前 Moeller 是比現在的 Molina 還適合 當捕手. (不過我自己覺得王建民配二哥是不錯的投捕組合) : Shelly Duncan, 1B: (C-)Duncan got two starts batting cleanup against the : Tigers (both losses) and he went just 2-8. He also struck out looking for : Matsui in the eighth inning of Sunday's win. If Girardi wants to put Duncan : in the lineup, it should be towards the bottom and it should only be to : replace Giambi. 好像提到雪莉都會順便提到大吉XD 不過要把雪莉排入先發的話, 只能讓他替換大吉, 我想這裡是指若 依守備位置 & 長期來看的話, 不然就得其中一個人當 DH. (像紅襪那樣老爹長期擔任 DH 算 MLB 球隊的常態 or 非常態?) 但反正以他們目前的表現, 似乎都不適合長期擔任 DH XD : Andy Pettitte, SP: (D-) Pettitte was cruising along until he gave up two runs : in the fifth and sixth on Wednesday. Andy is now 3-3 and needs to be more : consistent at the number two spot for the Yankees if they are to continue : winning. 提到派帥了, 對了, 派帥人去哪了?進傷兵嗎? 大抵上是說, 如果派帥要以洋基的第二號先發自居的話, 依目前的 表現(3-3), 還得多努力努力, 洋基的勝率才比較容易穩定. 畢竟第三號的穆帥最近四勝都到手了. : Ian Kennedy, SP: (F)Kennedy once again couldn't get out of the fifth inning : on Thursday and was sent back to the minors after his latest poor effort : which actually DECREASED his ERA to 8.37. Scary when four earned in 4.2 ip : can do that. 宗痛..阿門, ERA 8.37 (這樣看起來井川真的是可以當第五號哩, 反正再差也不過這樣) : Chien-Ming Wang, SP: (A+) The 2008 AL Cy Young continued his brilliance on : Friday, surrendering just one run in six innings. He's now tied for the : Major League lead with a record of 6-0. 提到王建民了, 六勝零敗, 繼續穩坐洋基王牌先發的位置. : Mike Mussina, SP: (A)Well, I had three guys to choose from in my pre-season : plea to get Joba into the rotation and I apparently picked the wrong one. : The Moose turned in his third straight good performance on Saturday, giving : up just seven hits and one run in six frames. But the most important thing : was that he didn't walk anyone. 穆帥, 穩穩地擔負著他身為第三號先發應負的責任, 最近幾場 表現穩多囉, 不過原作者對他投保送這件事頗有意見, 覺得穆 帥最好不要有投四壞球的時候. (不過有時投四壞球也是一種策略吧?) : Darrell Rasner, SP: (A-)Rasner's first Big League appearance this season : didn't start well as he served up a two-run homer to Adrian Beltre in the : first inning. But it was smooth sailing from there, as Rasner went on to : pitch five straight scoreless innings until departing after the sixth. He : also didn't issue a single base on balls. Rasner, 新人囉, 就目前來看除了王建民與穆西納之外, 三個選一個 , 就自然會選到他囉. (就算兩個選一個也還是會選到他) 他問題不大. : LaTroy Hawkins, RP: (B+) Two appearances and two scoreless innings. : Edwar Ramirez, RP: (B+) Ditto for Ramirez. : Kyle Farnsworth, RP: (B) Bad on Wednesday, but good on Friday and Sunday. : Jonathan Albaladejo, RP: (F)Terrible outing for Albaladejo on Thursday when : he got bombed for four earned runs in just an inning and two thirds. He also : picked up the loss. 三個牛棚常見的中繼。我個人感覺是,Hawkins 跟 Farnsworth 如果只中繼一局, 其實蠻穩的. 但如果只要他們中繼一局就好的話, 自然先發就得背比較多的局 數才行. : Chris Britton, RP: (B+)Britton's first appearance of the season was a good : one as he didn't allow a run over 2.2 innings pitched. He was wild, though, : throwing 20 balls in 40 pitches, including two walks. : Jose Veras, RP: (A)Another member of the bullpen merry-go-round. Veras threw : a perfect frame on Saturday. : Ross Ohlendorf, RP: (B+) One hit and one K in one inning on Sunday. 上面三個只聽過豆腐XD : Joba Chamberlain, RP: (B+)The Yankees played 35 innings over the past five : days. Joba participated in one of them. Really great way to use one of your : best pitchers. 講到張伯倫了, 其實會提到的就那幾點, 大抵上就是, 他是不 錯的中繼, 以致於現在就很難決定要不要把他放入先發. (魚與熊掌啊...) : Mariano Rivera, RP: (A) Two more perfect innings. 提到神了. : Yankees Overall Grade: (B) The Yanks are doing things in threes this year. : Since April 14, they have won three, lost three, won three, lost three, won : two, lost three and won three. Hopefully that streak will come to an end : when the Yankees host Cleveland on Tuesday. 個人覺得原作者心中的理想是以目前來說... 一棒:大門 二棒:隊長 三棒:阿布 四棒:阿肉 五棒:卡布 or 馬祖以 六棒:卡布 or 馬祖以 七棒:摸三弟 or 岡薩雷茲 八棒:岡薩雷茲 or 摸三弟 九棒:隨便, 坎弄 or 大吉之類的 但個人是覺得七八九棒擺個能嚇人的大吉還是很重要, 而 Cano 可以 下放三A讓他反省一下自己為什麼總是一球or兩球就死. 先發投手的部份原作者是認為... 第一號:王建民, 毫無疑問 第二號:派帥, 但身為重要的左投, 要更努力 第三號:穆帥, 持續穩下去就沒問題了 第四號:Rasner 第五號:宅慶(左投?) or 張99 PS較細的部份不翻了, 有些直接看數字就好了. 提點自己的想法, 有時張伯倫遇到得中繼兩局的情況, 總覺得他會 把第一局當成是熱身, 第二局才真正當成是在中繼, 未來如果把他 擺在先發的話他八成也會這樣幹(前兩局當熱身之類的...) 但不管如何, 他應該會被設定只要(能)投五局, 而剩下的四局還是 得靠牛棚. 宅慶真的是不錯的人選, 左投, 當目前的第五號先發或者是中繼其 實都還蠻 ok 的......我覺得他當先發比較好一點. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.225.164.210 ※ 編輯: laechan 來自: 61.225.164.210 (05/05 17:18)

05/05 17:18, , 1F
台灣水手迷真衰 好不容易連看三場 結果被剔頭...
05/05 17:18, 1F

05/05 17:23, , 2F
小派加油!!!
05/05 17:23, 2F

05/05 17:23, , 3F
水手迷不會衰吧,連看三天一朗的個人秀(一朗迷應該比較多:p
05/05 17:23, 3F

05/05 17:26, , 4F
Wang是The 2008 AL Cy Young 太誇張了 才五月初而已耶
05/05 17:26, 4F

05/05 17:25, , 5F
能看到一朗的E就沒有遺憾了(誤
05/05 17:25, 5F

05/05 17:26, , 6F
這篇是..心得嗎^^" 原文比對的格式之下我以為是翻譯文
05/05 17:26, 6F

05/05 17:28, , 7F
搞不好作者是第一個預測中的人,可以先備份一下本文
05/05 17:28, 7F

05/05 17:29, , 8F
我都快忘了阿宅是花了46M牽進來的了...
05/05 17:29, 8F

05/05 17:30, , 9F
張99是?
05/05 17:30, 9F

05/05 17:32, , 10F
張誌家...(誤)
05/05 17:32, 10F

05/05 17:34, , 11F
99 XD
05/05 17:34, 11F

05/05 17:34, , 12F
張伯倫啦= =
05/05 17:34, 12F

05/05 17:36, , 13F
看到張99的時候我驚了一下 XDDD
05/05 17:36, 13F

05/05 17:49, , 14F
宅慶的另一個優勢,就是左投。(對紅襪那一場真的很棒)
05/05 17:49, 14F

05/05 17:52, , 15F
小卡布真是讚 !
05/05 17:52, 15F

05/05 17:54, , 16F
阿宅拿來對洋基應該不錯
05/05 17:54, 16F

05/05 17:55, , 17F
樓上這個點子好
05/05 17:55, 17F

05/05 17:56, , 18F
有看有推
05/05 17:56, 18F

05/05 18:05, , 19F
被老虎扣豆? sweep? 扣豆不是提前結束的意思嗎??
05/05 18:05, 19F

05/05 18:06, , 20F
來不及了拉 張99已經簽約下去了XDDD
05/05 18:06, 20F

05/05 18:06, , 21F
XDDDDDDD
05/05 18:06, 21F

05/05 18:06, , 22F
也曾經有CANO很火然後鄉民都在罵小卡布的經驗... 繼續觀察吧
05/05 18:06, 22F

05/05 18:07, , 23F
因為目前看起來明顯被左投剋的球隊就只有洋基 /_\
05/05 18:07, 23F

05/05 18:07, , 24F
Moose那一段應該是作者稱讚Moose沒有保送任何人才對....
05/05 18:07, 24F

05/05 18:08, , 25F
而不是對他保送人有意見~
05/05 18:08, 25F

05/05 18:11, , 26F
所以阿宅寧願放著不用 也不能賣給別隊 左投高ERA可是洋基
05/05 18:11, 26F

05/05 18:12, , 27F
最害怕的投手啊
05/05 18:12, 27F

05/05 18:16, , 28F
"左投+高ERA" <--- 洋基 剋星 = = !!
05/05 18:16, 28F

05/05 18:24, , 29F
我對扣豆這個詞的選擇是"凌虐" ^^; (台語剛好一樣但音不同
05/05 18:24, 29F

05/05 18:25, , 30F
Moose我不確定他之前的比賽有沒有投BB
05/05 18:25, 30F

05/05 18:53, , 31F
張99? 以現在的他去MLB 我懷疑他稱的過兩局嗎?XD
05/05 18:53, 31F

05/05 19:01, , 32F
張99....XD
05/05 19:01, 32F

05/05 19:12, , 33F
Igawa!!!Igawa!!!Igawa!!!Igawa!!!Igawa!!!Igawa!!!Igawa!
05/05 19:12, 33F

05/05 19:52, , 34F
其實看看6.25的era還是嬴過8.X跟7.X。可以期望投的比較好吧~
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05/05 19:54, , 35F
總統那段真的酸很大 "再差也不過那樣" XD
05/05 19:54, 35F

05/05 20:27, , 36F
張99 XD
05/05 20:27, 36F

05/05 20:58, , 37F
左投高ERA是洋基剋星 那紅襪會不會把阿宅撿來對付洋基啊
05/05 20:58, 37F

05/06 00:20, , 38F
推CANO丟下去3A反省
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05/06 06:28, , 39F
看三小....
05/06 06:28, 39F
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