[轉錄] 來自N.Y. Daily News的訊息

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: jianoon (偶然だぞ) 站內: MLB 標題: [討論] 來自N.Y. Daily News的訊息 時間: Wed Dec 24 23:33:07 2008 作者:Jesse Spector 大意是說 New York Yankees could still sign Manny,even after taking on more than $400MM in payroll in the past week,and have a 2009 payroll less than the 2008 version. 1) not bringing back left-hander Andy Pettitte First,the Yankees would have to forget about Pettitte. As it stands right now,the Yankees can go with a rotation of CC Sabathia,A.J. Burnett, Chien-Ming Wang,Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes. Remember, Hughes is a 22-year-old with ace potential. If the Yankees are worried about him in a low-pressure role as the No. 5 starter,he shouldn't be in the organization -- I guarantee you there are 29 teams that would be glad to take him off the Yanks' hands. For his part,Pettitte was average at best for the balance of 2008,is 36 years old with a history of elbow problems and would command an eight-figure contract,which for the purposes of this discussion is an issue. 2) trading Hideki Matsui in particular. Trade Hideki Matsui. One potential landing spot would be San Francisco, where the Giants have long been rumored to be interested in Matsui and could afford to spare a lefthanded reliever -- after signing Jeremy Affeldt,it stands to reason that at least one of Jack Taschner,Alex Hinshaw and Pat Misch will be out of their plans. Adding another lefty to the Yankees' bullpen would allow Phil Coke to spend a full year in Triple-A,where he could go back to starting (Coke was 9-4 with a 2.51 ERA at Double-A Trenton before shifting to relief in Triple-A late this year and eventually advancing to the majors for an impressive September callup). If getting a team to take Matsui's entire contract would mean taking back a fringe prospect instead, so be it --remember,Matsui is being replaced by Ramirez. 第二點還真的蠻有可能實現的 @@ 好像從去年就有聽過松井會被交易到老人隊的傳言 但是酷斯拉會那麼輕易放棄當初訂的NTC嗎? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.228.245.24

12/24 23:33,
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12/24 23:33
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12/24 23:36, , 1F
能夠是最好 不過我想沒那麼簡單 松井也想拿戒指阿
12/24 23:36, 1F

12/24 23:36, , 2F
1.忘了老派吧2.盡可能把松井交易出去換米粉進來
12/24 23:36, 2F

12/24 23:36, , 3F
大意就這樣了
12/24 23:36, 3F

12/24 23:37, , 4F
1.放掉派 要請佛祖保佑四五號先發別出狀況 否則又回到去年
12/24 23:37, 4F

12/24 23:37, , 5F
理想情況當然是交易松井(最好換個不錯的捕手)然後補進米粉
12/24 23:37, 5F

12/24 23:37, , 6F
找一堆不上不下的投手一起撐場面的情況 2.松井的ntc不容易
12/24 23:37, 6F

12/24 23:37, , 7F
明天應該就會成真了...(幻想)
12/24 23:37, 7F

12/24 23:38, , 8F
如果只是四五號出狀況 倒不至於像去年這麼慘...
12/24 23:38, 8F

12/24 23:38, , 9F
放掉派派真的要佛祖照三餐拜...
12/24 23:38, 9F

12/24 23:38, , 10F
明天起床就會看到米粉頭了媽 XD
12/24 23:38, 10F

12/24 23:39, , 11F
喜歡幻想的快來這篇吧...剛好有米粉的討論 XDD
12/24 23:39, 11F

12/24 23:39, , 12F
可是還要賭AJB跟小王健康整季耶...
12/24 23:39, 12F

12/24 23:39, , 13F
明天醒來床頭的襪子裡到底會有什麼 (搔頭)
12/24 23:39, 13F

12/24 23:39, , 14F
沒有派派我們就只能祈禱洋基有醫龍團隊啊
12/24 23:39, 14F

12/24 23:39, , 15F
我覺得打線足夠了 咩尼來頂多增加話題性
12/24 23:39, 15F

12/24 23:40, , 16F
此外又想到一句諺語 沒有三十三 別上舊金山 XD
12/24 23:40, 16F

12/24 23:40, , 17F
投手還是有點缺陷好 不然打線會覺得很無趣 打幾分都是贏
12/24 23:40, 17F

12/24 23:40, , 18F
當初Matsui可是指名Yankees呢
12/24 23:40, 18F

12/24 23:41, , 19F
之前聽過有版友說Nady沒整季站滿RF...
12/24 23:41, 19F

12/24 23:41, , 20F
可是我怎麼有預感,咩尼回國就會跟洋基簽約ˇ ˇa
12/24 23:41, 20F

12/24 23:41, , 21F
從giants出道 結果也在giants退休喔 lol?
12/24 23:41, 21F

12/24 23:42, , 22F
XDD 那還真是不錯的巧合 日職巨人變成美職巨人
12/24 23:42, 22F

12/24 23:43, , 23F
我覺得討論交易swisher或nady比較有意義
12/24 23:43, 23F

12/24 23:43, , 24F
科 有缺陷好?打幾分都是贏? 科科科
12/24 23:43, 24F

12/24 23:43, , 25F
所以松井是要收集巨人的球衣嗎XD 還有哪邊有巨人 一起上吧
12/24 23:43, 25F

12/24 23:44, , 26F
Nady和Swisher一個高點 一個低點...
12/24 23:44, 26F

12/24 23:44, , 27F
技安的球衣?
12/24 23:44, 27F

12/24 23:44, , 28F
例如swisher for 科蕭之類的(科粒提我對你不錯吼XD
12/24 23:44, 28F

12/24 23:45, , 29F
Swisher+松井 for 林盲腸 大家一起來幻想吧XD
12/24 23:45, 29F

12/24 23:46, , 30F
這樣也解決派派不回來的事啦XD
12/24 23:46, 30F

12/24 23:46, , 31F
我完全不認為有任何可能把松井丟出去的可能
12/24 23:46, 31F

12/24 23:47, , 32F
老人隊:swisher還沒過33,不收的
12/24 23:47, 32F

12/24 23:47, , 33F
噗=.= 相當有道理 糟糕
12/24 23:47, 33F

12/24 23:48, , 34F
松井是最理想的情況 也是最不可能的情況 這是傷當合理的
12/24 23:48, 34F

12/24 23:49, , 35F
補投手+1...雖然瑪姿儀名字很萌 ( 誤
12/24 23:49, 35F

12/24 23:49, , 36F
其實松井擺DH很ok 把他交易掉能換誰? Manny又會好多少?
12/24 23:49, 36F

12/24 23:50, , 37F
我怎麼覺得Manny會好上非常多
12/24 23:50, 37F
還有 72 則推文
12/25 00:39, , 110F
現在是怕1 2號輪流炸?所以才推薦補回派派吧?不怕可以睹XD
12/25 00:39, 110F

12/25 00:39, , 111F
如果把宗痛 Joba和大弟三個人都叫上來四五號是吃得完
12/25 00:39, 111F

12/25 00:40, , 112F
他現在的球速如果有95mph,那他的ceiling很可能是no1,no2
12/25 00:40, 112F

12/25 00:40, , 113F
也許還有多 只是前提是前三號不要有人炸...
12/25 00:40, 113F

12/25 00:40, , 114F
Ian現在問題不是直球嗎?control好像有問題?
12/25 00:40, 114F

12/25 00:40, , 115F
IPK明年可以丟到近199IP左右的樣子
12/25 00:40, 115F

12/25 00:40, , 116F
是怕全部上DL報到吧,三小將去年也有DL
12/25 00:40, 116F

12/25 00:41, , 117F
他的問題是沒辦法幹掉右打者...
12/25 00:41, 117F

12/25 00:41, , 118F
Hughes的問題應該治的差不多了,反正沒傷到手過
12/25 00:41, 118F

12/25 00:41, , 119F
就那顆爛透的曲球啊
12/25 00:41, 119F

12/25 00:41, , 120F
宗痛不是以控球為主 沒聽過他有95mph以上的球速...
12/25 00:41, 120F

12/25 00:42, , 121F
Joba就要再看看了,不排除是RP跟SP的轉換所造成的問題
12/25 00:42, 121F

12/25 00:42, , 122F
我是聽說他在選秀前可以丟到95mph,結果莫名其妙消失
12/25 00:42, 122F

12/25 00:42, , 123F
第一年看到他記得控球還不錯的樣子...
12/25 00:42, 123F

12/25 00:42, , 124F
忘了在哪看的球探報告
12/25 00:42, 124F

12/25 00:42, , 125F
IPK以前的確有過直球95mph的時候
12/25 00:42, 125F

12/25 00:43, , 126F
結果天花板從no1掉到no3 XU
12/25 00:43, 126F

12/25 00:44, , 127F
他現在也找不回他的球速;Hughes還有好幾個球探在講
12/25 00:44, 127F

12/25 00:44, , 128F
在AFL看到他丟出95mph的球
12/25 00:44, 128F

12/25 00:44, , 129F
為了控球犧牲球速嗎?不然他的年紀球速會降?
12/25 00:44, 129F

12/25 00:45, , 130F
當然不是為了控球
12/25 00:45, 130F

12/25 00:46, , 131F
選秀會全力飆,之後就消失?還是說以前測的槍比較快?
12/25 00:46, 131F

12/25 00:47, , 132F
那就是憑空消失了(他有改過姿勢嗎)
12/25 00:47, 132F

12/25 00:47, , 133F
變胖? 部協調?
12/25 00:47, 133F

12/25 00:48, , 134F
Joba & Hughes都有投球局數的限制,所以如果球團不打算簽
12/25 00:48, 134F

12/25 00:49, , 135F
回派帥的話,明年的四五號先發我猜應該會由Joba/Hughes/
12/25 00:49, 135F

12/25 00:49, , 136F
Aceves/IPK合力消化所有應該負擔的局數,如果不簽派帥最好
12/25 00:49, 136F

12/25 00:49, , 137F
的理由應該就是不要擋到磨練新秀的機會了
12/25 00:49, 137F

12/25 00:52, , 138F
所以現金人還是很愛農場的
12/25 00:52, 138F

12/25 00:55, , 139F
我比較擔心張的球速,後來都好像催不太上去本來的球速
12/25 00:55, 139F

12/25 00:59, , 140F
對啊 Joba季末傷後歸隊 球速好像變慢很多
12/25 00:59, 140F

12/25 01:05, , 141F
可是如果放掉松井, 日本方面的YES收入不知道會不會有影響
12/25 01:05, 141F

12/25 01:06, , 142F
海外收入是全30隊平分的
12/25 01:06, 142F

12/25 01:06, , 143F
松井是不是有NTC?
12/25 01:06, 143F

12/25 01:23, , 144F
12/25 01:23, 144F

12/25 02:21, , 145F
都沒人覺得明年如果有打起來 運彩可以賺點零頭?
12/25 02:21, 145F

12/25 02:54, , 146F
Joba 2008年局數=100.3 根據Verducci Effect年紀25以下
12/25 02:54, 146F

12/25 02:55, , 147F
的投手如果增加局數超過30局以上都會有受傷的疑慮
12/25 02:55, 147F

12/25 02:58, , 148F
像Joba這樣可以養成Ace的新秀沒有道理去冒這個險
12/25 02:58, 148F

12/25 03:01, , 149F
(Verducci Effect在MLB板#19IZCGkU有翻譯)
12/25 03:01, 149F
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