Re: [Wang] Initial Report on Wang

看板NY-Yankees作者 (Black Swan)時間17年前 (2009/04/24 06:54), 編輯推噓67(67081)
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幾個已經出來的新聞 http://tinyurl.com/c4uvhl <--這個消息來源是AP 猜是上一篇提到的那個AP記者寫的 Wang, who is 0-3 with a 34.50 ERA, was sent to the Yankees' minor league complex to work on pitching consistency. He allowed five runs — four earned — nine hits and struck out 11 against Philadelphia Phillies minor leaguers. 我們的小王 現在是零勝三敗以及天文數字的ERA在洋基的小聯盟訓練營訓練 他掉了五分 有四分自責分 9安打 以及三振了11人 "Good day," Wang said. "Sinker down more, but sometimes got higher and the ball didn't sink." "不錯的一天" 小王說; 伸卡會掉了 但是有時候還是會偏高然後球不會沉 Yankees pitching coordinator Nardi Contreras planned to watch video of Thursday's game and previous games Wang appeared in to compare mechanics. Nardi會看影片來比較投球方式的不同 "He doesn't have the arm strength he had last year," Contreras said. "But he hasn't pitched in eight months prior to this spring training. What I saw today, he had the best slider I've seen since I've known Chien-Ming. The slider has improved and the changeup is very good. His offspeed pitches are coming in really well." 他的手臂不若以前強壯 不過他很久沒投球了 他的滑球很好 變速球也不賴 而他的變化球角度非常好 (這個off-speed 我根本就亂翻XDDD 感謝推文指正) Wang missed the final 3 1/2 months last season with a foot injury but appeared to be healthy during spring training and says he feels fine. Yankees vice president Billy Connors worked on mechanics with Wang before the game, including staying back a little longer during his delivery. "I thought he did well," Connors said. "What I looked for was groundballs on his sinker. He had a good sinker. In this league here, you throw groundballs the ground is so hard they're base hits. He needed to get out there and let his mind back in the groove." Connors來看球 他說 "我覺得小王投得不錯 我本來是期待看到他的伸卡 他的伸卡過去不錯 不過在這個聯盟 你丟伸卡球 場地會讓他跳成安打(地很硬) (這段話對照上一段我猜是小王沒有投太多的伸卡 而是比較多滑球跟變速球 or 被安打都是因為滾滾滾著就穿了~) 最後一句話我就不太懂怎麼翻了 我猜是 他必須要從被安打的感覺中走出來並且再回復到投球的心情(?) -- http://tinyurl.com/ckt679 這是官網的 不同的是失分4責失3 摘錄以下這一段 The issue is believed to be a mechanical flaw that forces Wang's right arm to drag behind his body, keeping his sinker up in the strike zone and making it more hittable. Wang has insisted that he is healthy, but general manager Brian Cashman has not ruled out an injury, saying that team physicians will examine Wang to make sure. 他們認為小王的投球機制出現問題 讓他的伸卡飄高 雖然小王說他沒有傷 但是他們還是會讓他檢查一下 If Wang remains with the big league club, his next turn in the rotation could come Tuesday at Detroit. Cashman seemed to hint this week that it will not be Wang, saying that he would be "surprised" if Wang's stay in Tampa is a one-and-done. 下禮拜二要到底特律 如果小王直接回來投的話 不過他們不覺得到坦帕去是能夠 "一次搞定" "Obviously we need his mechanics to be down right and have a good solid outing where that sinker looks right," Cashman said. "I don't think it's going to be something that'll be ... fixed right away. We'll see." 現金人說 我們需要他的投球機制是對的 然後能夠用好的伸卡吃局數 我不期望這是會馬上被搞定的 不過we will see. -- 看來小王被打這麼多安打有可能是滾滾球在那個場地的效果 不過球速沒有出來還是個擔憂 不管滑球變速球再好 大家的重點還是放在像以前一樣的好伸卡~ 小王加油!! :) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.119.144.7 ※ 編輯: Ivanov 來自: 140.119.144.7 (04/24 06:55)

04/24 07:00, , 1F
offspeed指的應該是直球以外比較慢的球 就是前面兩個
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04/24 07:02, , 2F
感謝:)
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04/24 07:03, , 3F
簡單來講就是變化球...
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※ 編輯: Ivanov 來自: 140.119.144.7 (04/24 07:08)

04/24 07:28, , 4F
小聯盟的球員還在春訓,被打那麼多安打,換到MLB,必慘
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04/24 07:41, , 5F
被小聯盟的球員K了那麼多安打.打大聯盟的球員情況堪慮
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04/24 07:42, , 6F
希望是不要被丟DL,改成中繼對王會比較好
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04/24 07:45, , 7F
樓上的...你們在酸甚麼...這樣比較厲害嗎??
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04/24 07:45, , 8F
好笑..
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04/24 07:51, , 9F
其實裡面也講到 這個場地比較硬 滾球容易變安打
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04/24 07:52, , 10F
安打多不代表狀況不好 他們在乎的還是他sinker的變化
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04/24 07:52, , 11F
速度沒回來才是隱憂吧~
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04/24 07:52, , 12F
我有在酸嗎? 還是你認為王被小聯盟打9安很棒很厲害.
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04/24 07:53, , 13F
如果場地比較硬 讓滾地球變安打還有話說 只是有幾隻是長打
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04/24 07:54, , 14F
王的球威沒回來.被小聯盟球員敲都可以飛.碰上大聯盟.
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04/24 07:54, , 15F
T大~小王狀況不好大家都知道~不用你自以為是的評論...OK?
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04/24 07:55, , 16F
你想會飛到哪去.支持王也不要支持到看不清問題所在////
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04/24 07:55, , 17F
這篇看不到打擊的內容吧 被打HR也是聽說?
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04/24 07:55, , 18F
原來這版不能評論王的狀況啊.一評錀就是自以為是...
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04/24 07:58, , 19F
蒙上眼睛就以為看不見.這歌詞用在某些版友身上還真貼切
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04/24 07:58, , 20F
我剛那句應該是個疑問句XD 因為我比較在意被長打率
04/24 07:58, 20F

04/24 08:00, , 21F
tenka大找一下被打的內容再來批評也不遲唷~
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04/24 08:00, , 22F
樓上a大 我了解啦 ~:P
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04/24 08:02, , 23F
改成中繼不固定的上場時間對王不見得好
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04/24 08:04, , 24F
換成中繼哪會比較好 出賽時間不固定 好在哪?
04/24 08:04, 24F

04/24 08:05, , 25F
安打多也有可能是守備比較差 在MLB說不定就少很多
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04/24 08:06, , 26F
假如留在MLB只能當中繼 那我寧願他進DL固定先發調整
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04/24 08:08, , 27F
中繼 未必好~
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04/24 08:12, , 28F
在小聯盟投手要更殺 現在的成績現金人應該還不滿意
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04/24 08:13, , 29F
因為王 , 最近這個版真是殺聲四起 ...
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04/24 08:14, , 30F
rich大 應該不是在酸啦~~ 消消氣 大家和氣點XD
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04/24 08:15, , 31F
在看看吧, 感覺arm strength 還沒出來
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04/24 08:15, , 32F
王以前在小聯盟好像也蠻殺的 今天這樣不及格吧...:P
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04/24 08:16, , 33F
movement有回來對老王而言比較重要 不管內容如何 投越多
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就越知道怎麼樣去維持 不夠殺是真的沒錯....
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04/24 08:17, , 35F
比較在意的是偏高 , 不過也不知道是什麼情況下偏高 ...
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04/24 08:23, , 36F
怎麼大家火氣都這麼大 每天都有新的戰端 =.=
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04/24 08:24, , 37F
沒人在酸啦...不要那麼敏感
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04/24 08:24, , 38F
王現在是騎虎難下啊 投不好 沒有人會給他評價的
04/24 08:24, 38F
還有 70 則推文
04/24 11:34, , 109F
經紀人也許會有意見,對了,球員工會會有意見嗎?(好奇)
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04/24 11:56, , 110F
"伸卡還是會飄" <====看到這句就覺得路還很長 MLB一飄就.....
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04/24 12:19, , 111F
剛看報紙才知道他跑步禁令才剛解禁
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04/24 12:20, , 112F
我覺得這滿扯的...也難怪現在肌力會失調
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04/24 12:21, , 113F
而且這麼久都沒激烈運動也讓小王潛意識覺得自己腳還未好
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04/24 12:22, , 114F
洋基這次真是保護過頭害了兩邊...
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04/24 12:35, , 115F
好笑,那篇文章從頭到尾幾乎是自己的臆測,也才問了王和BB尼
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04/24 12:35, , 116F
就能導出一切都是洋基保護過度,會不會太牽拖啊??
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04/24 12:38, , 117F
不意外(茶)
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04/24 13:01, , 118F
樓上最近茶喝好多 XD
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04/24 13:02, , 119F
因為喝其他東西會胖,只能喝茶(攤)
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04/24 13:03, , 120F
我吃一個禮拜的素了( ′-`)y-~好痛苦
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04/24 13:08, , 121F
吃素健康啊XD
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04/24 13:10, , 122F
吃素環保..可是我超愛肉...哭~_~
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04/24 13:15, , 123F
剛剛打開電視看新聞.....怎麼跟這篇描述的差很多
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04/24 13:22, , 124F
老虎火力不弱,王要是沒有完全恢復的話.. 再爆一場
04/24 13:22, 124F

04/24 13:23, , 125F
教練團對他的信心可能會崩盤---->變成井川第二
04/24 13:23, 125F

04/24 13:24, , 126F
老虎火力不弱 那請問哪隊弱? 怕東怕西會更沒信心
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04/24 13:25, , 127F
行不行再試一次就知道 不行的話再進DL小王也沒話說
04/24 13:25, 127F

04/24 13:35, , 128F
老虎火力弱?目前為止可是排前面的
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04/24 13:36, , 129F
其實前幾位沒人說老虎火力弱吧 XD
04/24 13:36, 129F

04/24 13:40, , 130F
改成滿可怕的好了.....火力弱的就水手、皇家
04/24 13:40, 130F

04/24 13:43, , 131F
葛格一向很會打老虎
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04/24 13:43, , 132F
看一看 我誤會那個語氣了 我道歉= =
04/24 13:43, 132F

04/24 13:47, , 133F
不要再說哪隊弱不弱 原本想說笑臉可以來進補 結果勒
04/24 13:47, 133F

04/24 13:48, , 134F
MLB級都是很強的 真的沒必要說哪隊強哪隊弱
04/24 13:48, 134F

04/24 13:50, , 135F
重點是要對自己有信心 不要還沒比就感覺會輸
04/24 13:50, 135F

04/24 13:51, , 136F
火力再弱也都比兄弟強
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04/24 13:56, , 137F
樓上那句很多餘= = 中職哪隊打擊比的上MLB 酸也找對點
04/24 13:56, 137F

04/24 15:01, , 138F
樓上上鉤
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04/24 16:08, , 139F
哈哈,沒有人說老虎火力弱,結果好多人誤會,滿有趣的
04/24 16:08, 139F

04/24 16:17, , 140F
王若在台灣現在會很慘 運氣不好早就被釋出
04/24 16:17, 140F

04/24 16:25, , 141F
沒啊 就覺得他的比較法很奇怪 討論MLB可以拿歡樂聯盟來比
04/24 16:25, 141F

04/24 22:28, , 142F
雞頭在巨人都可以調整那麼久了 洋基難道不給他機會嗎?
04/24 22:28, 142F

04/24 22:29, , 143F
美東給你機會嗎?紅襪藍鳥金鶯光芒給你機會嗎?
04/24 22:29, 143F

04/24 22:30, , 144F
不對,他們可能很歡迎,但是在場大家肯定不喜歡
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04/25 04:52, , 145F
拿Zito跟王比...王如果真的跟Zito一樣那建議趕快認賠殺出吧
04/25 04:52, 145F

04/25 08:25, , 146F
拜託,Zito至少可以吃局數好不好,今年已吃了16局呢 ^.<
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04/25 08:28, , 147F
科 那樓上可以建議洋基拿王去交易雞頭^.<
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04/25 08:31, , 148F
笑死人了,Zito的大約誰想吃啊,有點腦行不行??
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