[閒聊] Yanks Plan To Keep Cano And Granderson

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Yankees' Levine: We're still planning for Cano/Granderson in pinstripes TAMPA -- Seeking to diffuse any notion that the Yankees won't be able to retain their biggest stars and perhaps suffer a major talent deficit in 2014 when a payroll cut is planned, team president Randy Levine said, "The plan contemplates (Robinson) Cano, (Curtis) Granderson and a full championship team.'' The Yankees have said they plan to decrease their payroll from the low $200 millions to below $189 million to get below the luxury-tax threshhold for 2012, thus significantly reducing their tax rate in future years and saving themselces tens of millions. With that in mind, some folks are starting to do their own little math and wondering how many stars can be retained considering the Yankees will still have three $20-million-plus per-year players (Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia) on the payroll in 2014, leaving themselves about $120 million to fill out the other 22 spots on the team. With the contracts of Cano and Granderson up after 2013, folks specifically have wondered how the Yankees will squeeze those two big stars onto their payroll. But Yankees people remain confident publicly they can do that and remain a contender. "We'll have a great team either way,'' GM Brian Cashman said. "At $189 million, we should,'' The Yankees say they will not entertain the idea of going above the $189-million threshhold and are committed to getting below that figure. "The new Basic Agreement has changed the landscape,'' Cashman said. "From a business perspective, we have no choice. Do you want to go over $1 million at the expense of an additional $50 million? We're going to be at or below that ($189 million) number. We will certainly find a way to do it.'' Beyond Cano and Granderson, who have a chance to make it five $20-million-a-year players on their roster, there's a question as to whether they could even entertain the idea of playing for a marquee free agent this winter such as Matt Cain or Cole Hamels. Asked if their new plan of reduction makes that more difficult, Cashman responded, "We'll just have to see how it plays out.'' He isn't ruling out outside stars entirely. "It's possible, as long as it adds up,'' Cashman said. "Anything's possible.'' Meantime, Cashman isn't feeling sorry for himself. He mentioned how they have consistently been the top-spending team in recent years, so there's no room for complaint. Cashman said, We're appreciative of the fact we're able to spend that much.'' http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/17709790/yankees-levine-were-still-planning-for-canogranderson-in-pinstripes 2014的時候光 A-Rod + Teix +CC 就佔去了75.125MM 真的要壓在 $189M以下就只有大概 $113M 的空間給其他球員分 Cano的經紀人是Boras 肯定會幫他要個接近平均20M/Y的合約 Grandy到時的年紀應該是拼生涯最後一張大約 2014年Pineda跟Nova開始Arb Gardner跟Robertson都是第二次Arb 到時真的能不超過$189M嗎~? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.133.13.130

03/11 16:55, , 1F
其他有錢的隊伍過去五年payroll幾乎都大幅增加
03/11 16:55, 1F

03/11 16:56, , 2F
只有我們家在砍預算...Cano是自家養的一定要留啊
03/11 16:56, 2F

03/11 16:57, , 3F
Granderson太貴的話就算了吧
03/11 16:57, 3F

03/11 16:58, , 4F
腿弟也可以守CF 簽打擊差不多的LF比較便宜一點
03/11 16:58, 4F

03/11 17:14, , 5F
Cano應該會拿到二壘手最大合約
03/11 17:14, 5F

03/11 17:43, , 6F
變數還很多,cap不是只有NYY有,其他隊一樣會怕
03/11 17:43, 6F

03/11 17:44, , 7F
SP/野手的Arb不是什麼大問題,$man過去不給新秀長約
03/11 17:44, 7F

03/11 17:44, , 8F
現在沒錢了他應該會改變。更正:新秀投手長約
03/11 17:44, 8F

03/11 17:46, , 9F
不過可以預期的是搶劫的交易這幾年不會出現了
03/11 17:46, 9F

03/11 18:01, , 10F
豪華稅問題有點大 我們砍預算是因為已經超過了
03/11 18:01, 10F

03/11 18:06, , 11F
到時真的會跟說的一樣嗎......?
03/11 18:06, 11F

03/11 18:09, , 12F
今年年底如果那三隻大咖SP有人進FA就知道是不是真的
03/11 18:09, 12F

03/11 18:50, , 13F
有沒有可能用Cano,Granderson去搶別隊農場呢? XDD
03/11 18:50, 13F

03/11 18:59, , 14F
拿明星球員去換農場...NYY又不是小市場球隊
03/11 18:59, 14F

03/11 19:05, , 15F
要減少預算有時候也得換吧....如果Cano提個一年25M之
03/11 19:05, 15F

03/11 19:05, , 16F
類的合約...簽不下來就只好換出去
03/11 19:05, 16F

03/11 19:10, , 17F
不得不說A-ROD那約太大張了
03/11 19:10, 17F

03/11 19:28, , 18F
感覺洋基會比較傾向留Cano 就算到時候約很大...
03/11 19:28, 18F

03/11 19:36, , 19F
到時候再說
03/11 19:36, 19F

03/11 19:40, , 20F
sign & trade在MLB沒有意義
03/11 19:40, 20F

03/11 19:42, , 21F
問題不在小市場與否,問題在有沒有競爭力,只要Teix
03/11 19:42, 21F

03/11 19:42, , 22F
跟CC這些長約球員還能打,Cano就沒有換走的道理
03/11 19:42, 22F

03/11 19:43, , 23F
會這樣想通常是被NBA的交易方式影響太深了,MLB沒有
03/11 19:43, 23F

03/11 19:44, , 24F
那麼多那麼複雜的簽人限制,到期約是不值錢的
03/11 19:44, 24F

03/11 19:59, , 25F
Cano一定要留,現在市場上power夠力的選擇真的不多
03/11 19:59, 25F

03/11 20:29, , 26F
A-Rod的10年約真是卡死了我們的預算...
03/11 20:29, 26F

03/11 21:12, , 27F
在core 4後Cano幾乎是僅存的血統純正的明星了,一定留
03/11 21:12, 27F

03/11 21:38, , 28F
Cano Gardner Nova Robertson -> The New Core4
03/11 21:38, 28F

03/11 22:07, , 29F
A-Rod那張約甩不掉的情況下 Granderson有可能被捨棄
03/11 22:07, 29F

03/11 22:08, , 30F
Cano是一定要留的
03/11 22:08, 30F

03/11 22:12, , 31F
我是幻想A-Rod自己減薪 讓大家留下來啦.....
03/11 22:12, 31F

03/11 22:16, , 32F
想太多...MLB沒在搞降價讓球隊簽人這招
03/11 22:16, 32F

03/11 22:33, , 33F
那就沒辦法啦 祝福今年A-Rod打出身價來
03/11 22:33, 33F

03/11 22:34, , 34F
不然可能得做出心痛的決定
03/11 22:34, 34F

03/11 22:40, , 35F
會不留Grandy嗎? 有手套有棒子有腿 去哪裡找
03/11 22:40, 35F

03/11 23:07, , 36F
Jeter約14年結束 MO約今年結束 SORI約13年
03/11 23:07, 36F

03/11 23:07, , 37F
雖然我希望MO能一直投下去...
03/11 23:07, 37F

03/11 23:21, , 38F
30M的合約應該要80HR 200RBI 300H
03/11 23:21, 38F

03/11 23:39, , 39F
我考量是基於內野和投手 找不到誰可以開刀擠薪資
03/11 23:39, 39F

03/11 23:41, , 40F
所以就從外野找 那就是Grandy和Swisher
03/11 23:41, 40F

03/11 23:42, , 41F
如果Grandy能複製去年的表現 當然高層會傾向於簽下
03/11 23:42, 41F

03/11 23:45, , 42F
如果說被三振避免雙殺是好事 那他去年被SO了169次
03/11 23:45, 42F

03/11 23:47, , 43F
只要他續約不要開太高價 或許MO退休所擠出來的空間
03/11 23:47, 43F

03/11 23:47, , 44F
足以保有現在的外野陣容 因為正妹也滿健康出賽的
03/11 23:47, 44F

03/11 23:49, , 45F
A-Rod的要求 每年穩定出賽&100+ RBI 就還不算太傷
03/11 23:49, 45F

03/11 23:50, , 46F
今年這關要是擠不過 也等不到Sori的約結束了
03/11 23:50, 46F

03/11 23:58, , 47F
之前A-Rod跳出合約,害得無法再讓遊騎兵幫忙負擔一些
03/11 23:58, 47F

03/12 00:00, , 48F
當他找不到球隊願意給更高薪水後再回洋基,球隊又佛心
03/12 00:00, 48F

03/12 00:01, , 49F
所以當他被爆那些料後,對洋基是真的很受傷...
03/12 00:01, 49F

03/12 00:06, , 50F
一年30M只有咱們這種凱字隊付得起 一想到就不爽
03/12 00:06, 50F

03/12 10:34, , 51F
當初A-Rod簽長約應該就有考慮過後面幾年的問題了吧?
03/12 10:34, 51F

03/12 11:25, , 52F
當初還有預期A-ROD要破HR紀錄的效應 結果竟然發生*
03/12 11:25, 52F

03/12 11:26, , 53F
不過以A-ROD有辦法在全世界都被戰 這樣也值得啦~~~~
03/12 11:26, 53F

03/12 12:25, , 54F
我要GrandyQ_Q
03/12 12:25, 54F

03/12 12:48, , 55F
老闆:$man說要砍預算,我有說要砍嘛? 可以這樣嗎?
03/12 12:48, 55F

03/12 13:35, , 56F
有預算可以 可是球員還是要簽阿~~~~
03/12 13:35, 56F

03/12 16:34, , 57F
拿來戰A-Rod真的很無聊
03/12 16:34, 57F

03/12 16:35, , 58F
當初我們能拿到最好的3B叫做Joe Crede 要不要看看
03/12 16:35, 58F

03/12 16:35, , 59F
他現在在哪裡
03/12 16:35, 59F

03/12 16:35, , 60F
難不成當初真的要簽Aaron Boone?
03/12 16:35, 60F

03/12 16:36, , 61F
這幾年先發已經夠鳥了,看看少了A-Rod能不能進
03/12 16:36, 61F

03/12 16:37, , 62F
post-season啊
03/12 16:37, 62F

03/12 16:38, , 63F
你想要降價還得問MLBPA同不同意
03/12 16:38, 63F

03/12 16:39, , 64F
雖說年年都在拼命省錢
03/12 16:39, 64F

03/12 16:39, , 65F
但是有趣的是 當FA出現好東西的時候
03/12 16:39, 65F

03/12 16:39, , 66F
ARod那張值得討論的是10年這部份 平均年薪沒啥好說的
03/12 16:39, 66F

03/12 16:40, , 67F
Hal Steinbrenner都放話"為了某某人我們可以多花點"
03/12 16:40, 67F

03/12 16:40, , 68F
他那時候是健康寶寶+全能的強+穩定+合約年爆發
03/12 16:40, 68F

03/12 16:40, , 69F
當初Matt Holliday就曾經這樣放話
03/12 16:40, 69F

03/12 18:55, , 70F
是專指那回跳脫合約的事件 變成洋基要負擔全部薪水XD
03/12 18:55, 70F

03/12 19:26, , 71F
今年底還是要把薪資空間擠出來 到7/31還有很多時間想
03/12 19:26, 71F

03/12 20:04, , 72F
打出那種成績怎麼可能不跳....
03/12 20:04, 72F
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