[洋基] 為什麼Hughes不能在球數領先時解決打者?

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http://goo.gl/0I4OG RiverAveBlues.com Why can’t Hughes put away batters after getting ahead? By Joe Pawlikowski With his four home runs surrendered yesterday, Phil Hughes sits behind only Jason Vargas for the MLB lead in home runs allowed. Of course, Vargas has pitched 24 more innings, so Hughes has the lead in home runs allowed per nine innings pitched (2.18 HR/9). This wouldn’t be so surprising if it weren’t for Hughes’s other peripheral statistics. Hughes has both a low walk rate (2.30 BB/9) and a relatively high strikeout rate (8.85 K/9). While he’s not fanning batters at a Strasburgian rate, he still ranks 7th out of 47 qualified AL starters in strikeout rate. At the same time he’s shown good control, ranking 14th lowest in walk rate. That’s good for a 3.85 K/BB ratio, which ranks fourth in the AL. How is someone dominant enough to strike out more than his share of hitters, while at the same time showing enough control to avoid giving them free passes, manage to allow so many home runs? Losing while ahead One result of Hughes’s control is that he often works ahead in the count. He has faced 341 hitters this year, of which 83 have gone to an 0-2 count. That’s 24.3 percent of all hitters he’s faced. The AL average is just 19.3 percent of all PA. Yet hitters have had a field day once they’re this far behind. The average AL hitter has a .166 BA and .250 SLG in PA when they’ve seen an 0-2 count. In PA when Hughes has gotten ahead 0-2 hitters have a .253 BA and .494 SLG. Even worse, when the count is 0-2 AL hitters have a .146 BA and .222 SLG. Against Hughes with an 0-2 count they have a .294 BA and — I’m not even kidding — a .618 SLG. When Hughes is ahead in the count, opponents have hit .236/.242/.394 against him. The average AL pitcher holds opponents to a .201/.210/.300 line while ahead. Fastball heavy Unsurprisingly, Hughes ranks near the top of the leader boards in fastball percentage. He’s used his for more than two-thirds of his overall pitches. That does not include his cutter usage. The names ahead of him are all known for the movement on their fastballs. Bartolo Colon has the two-seamer we loved last year. Justin Masterson, Rick Porcello, and Henderson Alvarez get ground balls due to the sinking action on their fastballs. Matt Moore does have a two-seamer. Yet Hughes throws a relatively straight four-seamer. It is unsurprising, then, that Hughes has allowed 12 of his 19 home runs on the fastball. That’s 63 percent, which is slightly below his fastball usage rate, but given the sample size it’s close enough. At the same time, Hughes has used the fastball as a swing and miss weapon. Before yesterday’s game batters missed once every five swings. It’s clear that while seemingly straight, Hughes’s fastball can sneak up on a batter and cause him to swing and miss. It is easily his best pitch. Cutting out what doesn’t work After giving up many long balls early in the season, Hughes did make an adjustment. He had been throwing his cutter, but it wasn’t an effective weapon. He threw it 62 times, and three times batters took it out of the park. That looks even worse when we see that batters swung at it only 26 times. That’s more than one in 10 swings resulting in a home run. The cutter just wasn’t working. Hughes threw the cutter 47 times in April, but only 15 in May. It’s pretty clear that he cut it out at some point during that month, because he hasn’t thrown it once in June. That happens to coincide with his string of very good starts, yesterday excluded. In fact, before yesterday he’d given up just one home run on his fastball in June, of 244 pitches and 130 swings. Unfortunately, he did surrender three homers on the fastball yesterday. Trying something different Yankees’ pro scouting manager Will Kuntz noted two changes in Hughes’s secondary arsenal, aside from scrapping the cutter. “He’s using his curveball as a first pitch,” says Kuntz. Second, Kuntz says that he changed his grip on his changeup recently — before a start against Kansas City, he estimates. “It’s a great pitch for him,” says Kuntz. “He’s getting more comfortable with it.” Hughes’s adaptation to his fastball, curve, changeup arsenal might take some time. He had indeed worked on a changeup in spring training, and did try to work it into his arsenal. He threw it 12 percent of the time in April and May. He’s throwing it about half as frequently in June. He was at six percent coming into yesterday’s game, and threw the changeup just six of 83 pitches yesterday. Getting comfortable with it, it seems, is a process. Hughes did ramp up his curveball usage from April, 12 percent, to May, 21 percent. Yet in June that had dropped to 16 percent going into yesterday’s game. In a way that makes sense. As Kuntz said, he’s using it more early in the count, setting up his fastball. We saw how frequently Hughes works ahead of hitters. If he’s using his fastball as his biggest attack weapon, it does seem that he’d be throwing it more frequently than before (when he was presumably trying to use his curve as a weapon to finish off hitters). Yesterday, however, Hughes went curveball heavy, throwing it 31 times (37.3 percent). Six of the 19 batters he faced saw it as a first pitch. Nine times he threw it with an even count, and just four times he threw it when behind in the count. I’m honestly not sure what this amounts to, but it’s interesting that he increased his curveball usage in a start where his average fastball was stuck in the low 90s in the first few innings. He didn’t hit 94 until the fourth, and then only twice. It was mostly 91 to 92 on the day. Still no explanation While there is plenty of information here, it still doesn’t paint a clear picture of why Hughes’s results line up as they do. “Some guys are wild in the zone,” says Kuntz. “It’s a matter of command, usually. They’re supposed to be down and away.” So Hughes can keep it around the zone, but not necessarily where he wants it in the zone. When he hits, then, it’s a whiff. When he misses, he might not get the ball back. Kuntz also spoke of Hughes’s bulldog mentality. We’ve heard this term used to describe many pitchers. RAB readers will remember that those who favored Joba Chamberlain pitching out of the pen often cited his bulldog mentality. What does that mean for Hughes, though? Does it mean that he attacks too hard when ahead in the count and is therefore more prone to mistakes? Does it mean that he’s better fit for the bullpen, where he can really unleash his fastball and need only one other pitch? It’s difficult for experienced members of the Yankees’ organization to answer this question, let alone you or me. Hughes is, by statistical standards, turning in a unique season. Looking at all pitchers with at least 50 IP from 1901 to 2012, only three other pitchers have had a K/BB ratio of 3.5 or greater, with a HR/9 of 2.0 or greater. The other three aren’t exactly power pitchers, though. If we look at pitchers with a K/9 of more than 8.5 per nine and a BB/9 of lower than 2.5 per nine, Hughes stands alone. Yes, using a mere 50 IP qualifier, he is the only pitcher in modern history to feature his current statistical profile. Maybe this is why he’ll continue to get chances. He clearly has good stuff. He’s shown signs of life at times. And no one can really explain what’s going on. Hughes is really in a world of his own right now. -- 頭太鐵? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.116.189.142

06/23 00:02, , 1F
休斯不是無法解決打者 他只是需要跟崔斯特借一下骰子
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06/23 00:23, , 2F
崔斯特的骰子不是有五面6點一面5點嗎XD
06/23 00:23, 2F

06/23 00:49, , 3F
可能是缺乏速差和意外性 球路容易被猜到
06/23 00:49, 3F

06/23 00:50, , 4F
雖然配曲球能造成大速差 但老實說他讓捕手很忙
06/23 00:50, 4F

06/23 00:50, , 5F
老問題不是嗎? 就是曲球跟變速球不夠穩定
06/23 00:50, 5F

06/23 00:51, , 6F
變化球好的時候就很威,不好的時候投不進+被打率高
06/23 00:51, 6F

06/23 00:51, , 7F
控球又沒RP那時候好,紅中一點或者投高被長打就多
06/23 00:51, 7F

06/23 00:52, , 8F
捕手接他的曲球並不輕鬆 這表示他的曲球不聽話
06/23 00:52, 8F

06/23 00:53, , 9F
鑑於他的cutter不太管用 若能加強變速球是最好解答
06/23 00:53, 9F

06/23 00:54, , 10F
他很多時候是用直球來爭取第三個好球數
06/23 00:54, 10F

06/23 00:55, , 11F
投得準的時候能K掉打者 會誤以為這直球很有效
06/23 00:55, 11F

06/23 00:57, , 12F
要製造速差時 又只有曲球可以投 太過單調
06/23 00:57, 12F

06/23 00:57, , 13F
他的四縫線是頂尖的沒錯啊,但是沒有變化球掩護
06/23 00:57, 13F

06/23 00:58, , 14F
直球再怎樣三振率還是不夠高,以純四縫線高被長打類
06/23 00:58, 14F

06/23 00:58, , 15F
控球又沒RP那時候好? 這一定有什麼誤會
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06/23 00:58, , 16F
唯一的生存方法就是在提高三振率
06/23 00:58, 16F

06/23 00:58, , 17F
所以一顆投過來很像直球的變速球 才能讓打者困惑
06/23 00:58, 17F

06/23 00:58, , 18F
As Reliever BB/9 2.72 2012 BB/9 2.30
06/23 00:58, 18F

06/23 00:59, , 19F
能不能看完全文再討論?
06/23 00:59, 19F

06/23 01:00, , 20F
他的四縫線有效 是因為位置控制得還不錯
06/23 01:00, 20F

06/23 01:01, , 21F
但老實說 明白自己好球帶的打者 會用掉他不少球數
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06/23 01:01, , 22F
控球不是只講BB/9,這文也講被長打很多都是不夠邊角
06/23 01:01, 22F

06/23 01:01, , 23F
也就是說 好球帶邊緣的四縫線 容易被打者破壞
06/23 01:01, 23F

06/23 01:02, , 24F
那請教控球不看BB/9要看什麼
06/23 01:02, 24F

06/23 01:03, , 25F
你自己看本文最後一段,還上了黃字咧
06/23 01:03, 25F

06/23 14:14, , 26F
要看進壘點 塞了一堆紅中好球不能叫控球好
06/23 14:14, 26F
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