Changing Frontcourt Might Save Nets' Season

看板Nets (布魯克林籃網)作者 (帶著自己的微笑)時間18年前 (2007/12/20 00:06), 編輯推噓28(28021)
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By JOHN HOLLINGER (一個愛看衰籃網的人所寫) December 19, 2007 Sean Williams was in the Nets’ starting lineup last night. He had 11 points and 8 blocks in the Nets’ 106-101 loss to the Kings. 香威在昨晚成為籃網的先發成員之一。十一分、八火鍋,在輸給國王的比賽中。 Better late than never. 亡羊補牢,猶未晚也。 With the season on life support and Jason Kidd contemplating life in places such as Cleveland and Dallas, the Nets finally made the move for which fans have long clamored: changing the frontcourt. Out go the laughably unproductive Jason Collins and Malik Allen, and in come youngsters Sean Williams and Josh Boone. Game 1 of the experiment came last night against Sacramento. 就當 Kidd 在考慮加入騎士還是小牛還有球季走的不平穩時,籃網總算 做出了讓球迷相當喜愛的決定:改變前場。把可笑的和沒有貢獻的Jason Collins Malik Allen 拉下先發,讓年輕人 Sean Williams 還有 Josh Boone 成為先發。 這實驗的第一場就在昨晚上抗國王展開。 "This isn't a panic move," coach Lawrence Frank said yesterday, and truer words have never been spoken. In fact, this was the opposite of a panic move. This was a move that was so long overdue — by three weeks in the case of Allen, and about three years in that of Collins — that Nets fans had practically given up hope that it would ever happen. Frank: 這不是一個應急的改變。事實勝於雄辯。事實上,這是一個 不應急的改變。這一項早就該做的改變現在才兌現。大約三個禮拜的Allen 還有三年的 Collins,籃網球迷現實的放棄他們應該有的希望。 That's Frank's biggest weakness as a coach: He loves big guys who don't screw up, regardless of how shockingly unproductive they are. That's why Clifford Robinson hung around so long, and that's why players such as Allen and Collins have stayed in the lineup despite their inability to score, rebound, draw fouls, or block shots. 這就是 Frank 成為教練的最大弱勢,他喜歡不會犯錯的大個子, 不管他們在場上有多麼沒生產力。那就是為什麼 Clifford Robinson可以打這麼久, 也是為什麼 Collins 和 Allen 可以在陣容中那麼久,不管他們無法得分、 搶籃板、討犯規,或是蓋火鍋。 To Frank's credit, he finally made the change. Many coaches, one of whom works across the river from Frank, are so stubborn that they ride their system right down the tubes. But by process of elimination, he finally succumbed to the logic that it had to be his frontcourt — because it wasn't Kidd, or Richard Jefferson, or Vince Carter that was causing the Nets to fall behind by double figures in the first half every night. 該給 Frank 一些認可,他總算改變了。許多教練,像 Frank, 一向很固執的執行他一貫系統的東西。不過就在行進中,許多他認可的東西, 一一被消滅掉,才不得不承認問題就出在前場。 因為這不是 Kidd, RJ 或是 VC 造成籃網上半場就落後兩位數的問題。 While we're discussing Frank, by the way, this one flaw doesn't mean the Nets should cut him loose — far from it. People always the right call; in the case of the current frontcourt, he clearly did not. With Collins and Allen, the issue wasn't that they avoided negative plays, but rather that they never made any plays. This was quite possibly the least productive starting frontcourt pairing in NBA history. On the season, the Collins-Allen duo averages 6.1 points and 5.5 rebounds per game. Ready for the punch line? Those are their combined stats. 當我們在討論 Frank 時,這一項缺點不代表籃網必須將他丟棄,離那還遠。 人們總是講出正確的事情,在目前的前場陣容,顯然他沒有發現。 在Collins和Allen的前場,他們不是執行錯誤的戰術,而是他們不會執行戰術或得分。 這也是很有可能他們是在NBA歷史上績效最低的前場先發。 在季中,Collins Allen 兩位合計 6.1分 5.5籃板。 準備好聽接下來的最後一段話嗎,那是他們合起來的貢獻。 Using my Player Efficiency Rating (PER, a per-minute rating of a player's statistical effectiveness), Collins was the single least effective regular player in basketball this season. That shouldn't come as a shock, though: He was last year, too. 用我自己發明的 Player Efficiency Rating, Collins 是本季最低績效的球員。 儘管如此這也不應該是值得驚訝的事。 To give you a picture of Collins's awfulness, the league average in PER is set at 15.0, and usually only scrubs or defensive specialists fall below 10.0. Collins's rating? 0.9. He hasn't had a rating in double figures since 2003–04, and hasn't even come close in any of the past three seasons. 告訴你 Collins 有多可怕,聯盟的PER平均值是15,通常只有二級球員或是防守專家 落到十以下,Collins多高? 0.9。 自從03-04年來之後,他沒有在拿到兩位數的成績了,而且遠不如過去三季。 Yes, he's a good defender and he sets nice screens, but good heavens, is it really possible for an NBA player to do this little? It's not just the invisible scoring: He also doesn't rebound. His average of 5.3 boards per 40 minutes is worse than that of several point guards. 是的,他是個好的防守者而且擋人做的不錯,但是是不是一個NBA球員只能做這麼多? 不只是看不見的得分能力,他不能搶籃板,四十分鐘只平均5.3籃板, 比大多數的控球後衛還要糟糕。 Not that Frank had many other options. Unbelievably, three of the league's four worst PERs belong to the Nets' frontcourt players. Jamaal Magloire, at 2.21, was third from the bottom (I guess $4 million doesn't buy what it used to). And the hobbled Nenad Krstic, at 2.23, was fourth, though at least he has an excuse. 不是 Frank 有很多其他的選擇,不可思議的是,聯盟最糟的四個禁區球員, 三個在籃網,Magloire 2.21。(我猜四百萬不是買來要他只能這樣的)。 而顛頗的 Krstic 也只有2.23,倒數第四,雖然他是有藉口的。 Compared to those guys, Allen's 8.73 rating — merely the 27thworst of the league's 300 players with enough minutes to qualify — must seem like a godsend. But in any other sphere of reality, his performance would be considered severely lacking. Allen's scoring, shooting percentage, rebound, and turnover rates all are well below par for an NBA big man, and his defense isn't exactly world-class either. That's why the 29-year-old journeyman was available for the veteran's minimum in the first place. Allen 還有8.73的成績,雖然是聯盟三百位有足夠時間的球員中 第二十七糟的,但跟那些人比較,看起來還算已經不錯了。 不過從現實面來看,他的表現是被認為一直缺乏些東西的。Allen的得分、命中率、 籃板還有失誤比率都是在NBA長人中以下的水準,而他的防守也不是世界等級的。 這也是為什麼這位29歲的旅人,可以用老將新資將之簽下。 And that, consequently, is why the Nets entered yesterday's game ranked 26th out of the league's 30 teams in Offensive Efficiency (my rating of a team's points per possession). With such miserable output up front, it's a miracle they weren't 30th. 必然的,這也是為什麼籃網在昨天的比賽當中是聯盟當中進攻績效第二十六名的球隊。 在這麼恐怖的前場,他們不是最後一名已經是個奇蹟。 Contrast the Allen-Collins tandem's production with what Boone and Williams have done, and Frank's move becomes slap-in-the-forehead, what-the-hell-took-you-so-long obvious. Boone is the team's best rebounder, and he's a veritable scoring machine compared to Collins. While his 24.1% free throw mark is just a wee bit troubling (we've seen Hack-a-Boone each of the past two games), his activity at both ends should make up for it. Williams's numbers have been so good that Nets observers have been left puzzled why it took this long to get him out there: In virtually every category, he easily outranks the other frontcourt players. 和 Allen-Collins對照起來, Boone - Williams 所展現的, Frank的改變有點像,拍打在前額然後對你說, 為什麼花了你這麼多時間才做這個改變。 Boone 是籃網最好的籃板手,而且對照 Collins 他是可稱得上得分手。 但他的罰球命中率 24.1% 是稍為帶給他麻煩的(在過去的比賽對手還有進行 駭布戰術),但他在進攻和防守兩端的活動貢獻會掩蓋這個事情。 Williams的數據更是讓籃網的觀察者感到頭疼,為什麼要花這麼久的時間, 才能讓他出現在那裏。事實上從任何的方面來看,他比任何其他籃網的長人 還要優秀的多。 With the new frontcourt yesterday, the Nets managed to avoid their typical early deficit. In fact, Boone and Williams combined for 10 points in the first quarter — a feat that would take nearly two games for Collins and Allen — as New Jersey took an early lead, for once. Williams also blocked six shots in the first half. By comparison, Collins has four the entire season — and the two combined to shoot 5-for-9 from the floor. 在有他們新的前場的狀況之下,籃網設法避免他們一開始就大幅落後的通病。 事實上,香布連線在上半場就貢獻了十分,這要Collins-Allen兩場才辦得到的事情, 而當籃網有了稍早的領先,Williams 就在上半場蓋了六個火鍋。就比較而言, Collins 本季一共也才蓋了四個而已。香布連線也投九中五。 Yes, it was a home game against a bad team, so don't consider the season saved or make any other grand proclamations just yet. What we can say, though, is that the Nets finally made the one move available to them that maybe, just maybe, could finally get this season turned around. As frustrating as it was to watch Frank delay the inevitable for so long, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that the Nets still have 57 games left to help this cause. After last night's move, it's far easier to contemplate such an event actually happening. 是的,這只是一場在主場對抗中下球隊的球賽,所以不要認為這個球季被拯救了, 或先行宣告這是偉大的事情。儘管如此,我們能說的是,籃網總算做了一件 ,可能,只是可能,總算能讓他們的球季的結果大不相同的事情。 只是我們這麼失望看到 Frank 讓這項本來就該執行的事情延宕這麼久, 依然還是可以把這種眼光放下,因為籃網還剩下五十七場球可以打拼。 在今晚的改變之後,我們還不能那麼早認定籃網整季就像稍早那樣。 jhollinger@nysun.com http://www.nysun.com/article/68306?page_no=3 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.132.58.136 ※ 編輯: NetsFan 來自: 220.132.58.136 (12/20 00:08) ※ 編輯: NetsFan 來自: 220.132.58.136 (12/20 00:11)

12/20 00:11, , 1F
57場拿個40勝17敗好不好,我這樣會太貪心嗎XDDD
12/20 00:11, 1F

12/20 00:13, , 2F
推推推...
12/20 00:13, 2F

12/20 00:14, , 3F
他好中肯!!我可以這麼說嗎?
12/20 00:14, 3F

12/20 00:14, , 4F
不過我覺得馬樹二人組也不能全怪他們,髮禿挖洞給他們跳阿
12/20 00:14, 4F

12/20 00:14, , 5F
真中肯 勞倫斯法蘭克 一個豆腐腦的教練
12/20 00:14, 5F

12/20 00:15, , 6F
什麼叫沒犯錯 科科一點貢獻都沒有就是種錯
12/20 00:15, 6F

12/20 00:17, , 7F
那個PER不知道怎麼算的 說是效率 應該有考慮上場時間吧.
12/20 00:17, 7F

12/20 00:19, , 8F
禁區包辦到數四名中的三個...
12/20 00:19, 8F

12/20 00:26, , 9F
淚推...
12/20 00:26, 9F

12/20 00:50, , 10F
幫我的網迷好友淚推
12/20 00:50, 10F

12/20 00:50, , 11F
這篇文章有中肯到,法禿拜託給蹦跟阿威先發吧
12/20 00:50, 11F

12/20 00:52, , 12F
0.9 XD 好漂亮的數據 中肯推一個
12/20 00:52, 12F

12/20 01:01, , 13F
我覺得Robinson打的很不錯啊...經驗老到 還能砍三分 有年
12/20 01:01, 13F

12/20 01:02, , 14F
季後賽還靠他把小歐守死死
12/20 01:02, 14F

12/20 01:06, , 15F
那請問有人有今天Sean Williams的影片嗎?
12/20 01:06, 15F

12/20 01:09, , 16F
true ords have never been spoken 這句是不是該翻成.
12/20 01:09, 16F

12/20 01:09, , 17F
事實勝於雄辯? 或是 眼見為憑 ?
12/20 01:09, 17F

12/20 01:14, , 18F
簡單的說就是 火髮禿!!救籃網!! 問題在教練了
12/20 01:14, 18F

12/20 01:18, , 19F
別隊只要養球員,我們還要養教練= =
12/20 01:18, 19F

12/20 04:35, , 20F
在這麼恐怖的前場,他們不是最後一名已經是個奇蹟。
12/20 04:35, 20F

12/20 07:19, , 21F
小克什麼時候要回來啊???
12/20 07:19, 21F

12/20 08:47, , 22F
chochoorz ok, 我會修改
12/20 08:47, 22F
※ 編輯: NetsFan 來自: 140.135.165.253 (12/20 09:42)

12/20 11:52, , 23F
香威和蹦如果練起來籃網下半季還是有救的
12/20 11:52, 23F

12/20 11:57, , 24F
一整個中肯阿!
12/20 11:57, 24F

12/20 11:58, , 25F
比起最爛的NBA先發前場,法禿一直不下台我覺得才是個奇蹟..
12/20 11:58, 25F

12/20 11:57, , 26F
再搭配小客和大貓的恢復 就可以算的上還ok的前場了
12/20 11:57, 26F

12/20 12:01, , 27F
比起樹和阿倫先發時上半場就落後兩位數
12/20 12:01, 27F

12/20 12:02, , 28F
香蹦連線至少可以緊咬著比數
12/20 12:02, 28F

12/20 12:05, , 29F
其實不太能這樣比.因為這種打法籃網也很久沒打了.
12/20 12:05, 29F

12/20 12:06, , 30F
所以才會失誤那麼多.否則如果習慣的話.大概上半場領先20分
12/20 12:06, 30F

12/20 12:06, , 31F
是可以期待的.慢慢轉變成快打旋風型的球風吧
12/20 12:06, 31F

12/20 12:04, , 32F
我期待 香蹦會變下個晨星(蹦) 和 KMRT OR KG (香)
12/20 12:04, 32F

12/20 12:09, , 33F
不管整體能力是否贏過 kmart 目前證明他火鍋能力是勝的
12/20 12:09, 33F

12/20 12:09, , 34F
蹦喔.比較沒那麼期待.香威 媽的看他的身材再練下去
12/20 12:09, 34F

12/20 12:10, , 35F
生涯第三場先發就八火鍋..
12/20 12:10, 35F

12/20 12:10, , 36F
說不定籃網版的魔獸都會降世了.尤其它還年輕
12/20 12:10, 36F

12/20 12:10, , 37F
如果kidd就此轉隊 也是可惜 難得有好禁區了和替補pg了
12/20 12:10, 37F

12/20 12:11, , 38F
等小馬慢慢恢復應該就ok的
12/20 12:11, 38F

12/20 12:11, , 39F
當年我看AL Jefferson就沒看走眼.我相信香威不會輸他的
12/20 12:11, 39F

12/20 12:14, , 40F
蹦-->K-Mart 香威-->香.Kemp 現在的進攻都較差
12/20 12:14, 40F

12/20 12:17, , 41F
如果進攻方面進步 可以期待嗎~~~~~
12/20 12:17, 41F

12/20 12:51, , 42F
淚推...
12/20 12:51, 42F

12/20 14:46, , 43F
馬阿倫至少還有穩定的冷箭跳投能力
12/20 14:46, 43F

12/20 15:34, , 44F
為什麼我看完一直笑XDDD 淚笑~~
12/20 15:34, 44F

12/20 20:16, , 45F
KIDD才是籃網最好的籃板手!
12/20 20:16, 45F

12/20 23:19, , 46F
看完這篇 我終於了解原來這個作者跟我們一樣
12/20 23:19, 46F

12/20 23:20, , 47F
之前看衰籃網根本就是因為我們持續用ㄎㄎ當先發
12/20 23:20, 47F

12/20 23:34, , 48F
所以他本季捧了兩次籃網 都是因為法禿開始用SW
12/20 23:34, 48F

04/19 20:48, 6年前 , 49F
57場拿個40勝17敗 http://yaxiv.com
04/19 20:48, 49F
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