[外電] Allen Iverson's complicated legacy

看板Nuggets (丹佛金塊)作者 (Where168happens)時間17年前 (2008/03/20 14:00), 編輯推噓20(20025)
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Allen Iverson's complicated legacy 離開後的AI,留下的是:令人五味雜陳 by Phil Sheridan http://0rz.tw/313Q6 There's probably a lesson for all of us in Allen Iverson's return to Philadelphia tonight. Can you bring yourself to feel anything but a kind of shrugging acceptance of Iverson's body of work, both as a 76er and since being traded? Can you really summon any of the passion, for him and against, that was part and parcel of Iverson's tenure here? 今晚 AI 回歸費城可能會讓所有費城球迷感受深刻。你能感覺到一種接受 AI 從 七六人被交易的無奈嗎?(這行不確定文意) 或是感受到因為 AI 在 我們心中的地位所帶來的感動? When he is introduced before tonight's game, the crowd should and almost certainly will give Iverson a warm welcome. There will be a few boos mixed in, no doubt. But really, how excited can you get about all this? 在 AI 將要在費城出場之前,幾乎就能確定他將受到費城觀眾滿心的歡迎。 當然也沒辦法地會有些噓聲,但並不影響大部分人們的興奮之情。 And that's the lesson. Few professional athletes have created such extreme reactions as Iverson among Philadelphia's fevered sports fans. Charles Barkley, maybe. Mike Schmidt, sort of. Terrell Owens, definitely. Donovan McNabb, at times. 這就是 AI 今天帶給我們的感受:只有少數的職業運動選手能創造這種類似 AI 帶給 費城球迷的互動和狂熱。還有誰能帶給費城球迷這種感動?老巴?Mike Schmidt? (打棒球的)Terrell Owens?(美式足球)還是Donovan McNabb?(一樣NFL) 這些人,嗯…或許吧。 If all we can manage is a kind of collective shrug about Iverson now, maybe we can learn to skip a few hot-headed steps the next time some athlete gets us all worked up. Or maybe we're just hard-wired to lose our cool when it comes to sports. Maybe that's part of the fun. 如果我們能控制這種對 AI 的情感,或許我們下次能不要那麼熱過頭地面對這件事。 也可能是因為扯到運動世界,大家的情感總是激動的! Iverson certainly raised the temperature around here. 小艾絕對地讓費城的熱度直升! He was a once-a-generation talent, a gritty, fearless gamer who threw his tiny body around among the NBA giants and carried an overachieving Sixers team to the NBA Finals. 他是個一代天才,且勇敢、奮不顧身地以他瘦小的身軀在NBA長人之林中戰鬥; 更曾經將陣容沒預期中那麼好的七六人帶入總冠軍賽! Or: 又或者我們可以這樣看: Iverson was a selfish, team-wrecking coach-killer who relied on his natural skills and cheated himself, his teammates and his fans of what he could have accomplished if he'd worked harder and understood the value of "practice." AI 是個依賴自己的技術,自私、不顧團隊合作與教練、甚至因為他的天才, 掩蓋住 "如果他們更努力的打拼,其實他能達到更好的境界" 這件事。 If you paid attention to the Sixers at all during Iverson's time here, you almost certainly think one of those statements is gospel truth and the other is completely irrational. That's how sharp the divide was here. The fact that there are elements of truth in both points of view helps explain why Iverson was such a fascinating character to watch from the moment he arrived from Georgetown to the day he was dealt to Denver. 如果你隨時都有注意他在七六人這兒時的表現,你應該知道上面的陳述有些有如真理、 有些只是荒謬乖誕。而事實是,在上述的正反兩面,都包含真實的敘述,這也是為什麼 AI 在七六人的這段日子以來如此的受人注目。 It is oddly comforting that he comes to town as a member of a team that has a better record than the Sixers, but with a lower conference seeding. At the moment, the Sixers are in the Eastern Conference playoff field. The Nuggets are out in the much more competitive West. 當 AI 今天來到這裡,且他身在一支擁有比七六人更好戰績,卻排名更後面球隊, 感受實在怪的很難形容… 現在七六人在東區季後賽列車中,金塊卻在混亂的西區 中排除在季後賽外。 But then there is the body count. To appease (or, if you prefer, get the most out of) Iverson while he was here, the Sixers bent themselves into every possible shape. The challenge of building around a 6-foot, "bony as hell" MVP and working around his singular philosophy about "practice" meant a lot of turnover over the years. 不過他在七六人時,其實七六人為他打造成各種不同的隊形,這是一種圍繞在一個 小個子、且不愛練習又很常失誤的矮小MVP身上來打造隊伍的挑戰。 The body count: 讓我們看看為他打造過的隊形 Larry Hughes and Tim Thomas and Jerry Stackhouse, Theo Ratliff and Dikembe Mutombo, Toni Kukoc and Keith Van Horn, Derrick Coleman and Glenn Robinson and Chris Webber. 他的隊友曾有:飛人兄弟Hughes、TT、牛排屋、鍋王Ratliff和木桶伯、Kukoc和KVH、 DC、廢物狗和Webber。 Randy Ayers and Larry Brown and Chris Ford and Jim O'Brien. 帶過他的領隊有Larry Brown、歐比王,和兩個雜魚。 Oh, and finally, Billy King. 喔對了,還有(廢中之廢、萬惡之惡的)老王。 They all came and went either because of or in spite of Iverson's presence here. They either couldn't coach him, couldn't bear to coach him any more, couldn't play with him, or were deemed by management to be unable to play with him. 他們離開這、或是來到這、或多或少都是 AI 在這的緣故。他們再也不能忍受當 AI 的教練、不想當他的隊友、或是失敗白老鼠被換走。 As for King, he was left to engineer the shift from the Iverson Era to Whatever's Next, then was fired before he had a chance to complete the transition. If King waited too long to flip that switch, and he probably did, the suspicion lingers that he had little choice. 對老王來說,他不能在 AI 在這兒的時代讓七六人更邁進一步了。於是他就在他 離去之前,讓AI離開球隊。(老王對七六人最好了~~真是大善人呢!) In Comcast Nation, Iverson was staying as long as he put fans in the seats. Once attendance began to slip, so did the corporate commitment to No. 3. When Iverson behaved precisely as he had for all his previous years here, it suddenly was considered unacceptable, and he was traded. 在 Compast Nation(?) 開場時,AI 彷彿就像以前在自家主場出場時一樣,然而你 馬上理性的發現,他已經穿著別的隊服這件難以接受的事。(這整段不太會翻..) Ironically, the Wachovia Center probably will be full tonight - the I-95 mess notwithstanding - for two reasons. 儘管如此,今天七六人主場應該是會爆滿的。原因有兩個。 One, the people who got tired of watching Iverson play hard while the Sixers lost will want to see him one more time. 第一,那些已經厭倦了 AI 在場上拼命但仍然輸球的人,仍然想再見到 AI 一次。 Two, the team he left behind is playing hard and starting to win. As a - well, you know - team. 二,他離開後的七六人們努力打球、創造勝利,就像一支團隊一樣,懂吧,團隊。 (按陰陽譯者已經快凍未條、小朋友你給我翻這什麼文!XD) It is undeniable. These Sixers are a lot easier to like and a lot more boring than the teams that were built around Iverson. This group reflects its head coach, Maurice Cheeks, and its veteran point guard, Andre Miller, in the way it approaches the game. It couldn't be less like the Iverson teams if everyone wore white shorts and started playing cricket. (這段整個不會翻)無可否認的,現在的七六人看起來比當時圍繞著 AI 的七六人 無聊的多。這個團隊的表現正猶如教練Mo Cheeks和老牌控衛Andre Miller的風格一般: 除非現在叫這些人開始打板球,不然不會有比現在的七六人,更不像 AI 當時帶領的 七六人。 But the current Sixers are a lot less interesting, too. There is no soap opera around the team, no central figure for everyone to love or hate. There is no Allen Iverson. 現在的七六人也少了很多話題:沒有適合這隊的肥皂劇、沒有能讓人喜愛或討厭的地方。 這裡沒有 Allen Iverson。(雖然這作者整篇嗆AI,看到這行還是好難過想哭阿…) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 喔靠,沒翻過這麼長的 XD 心得幾個:就是和練習前一樣,有翻才知道我還有的學呢, 好多地方可能沒翻好(其實我國文造詣也相當低,我盡力了) 有請板友就盡量糾正吧! 差點忘了說,趕快想翻篇外電是因為想PO文,想秀一下之前改的暱稱 :p 現在秀了一篇我就要去換暱稱了。 ------------------------------一堆牢騷---------------------------------------- 另外關於本文,其實我在今天開打之前,我在心裡想的有很多部分 和這篇文章相合,例如七六人其實一直為 AI 打造球隊, 其實七六人根本不欠 AI 什麼。 話雖如此呢,看打之後我還是滿腔不滿,滿是想看在我感情部分認為 "背叛 AI" 的人能哭喪的臉,哈。沒辦法,不可能完全理性的。 另外關於批評 AI 練習等等也多半都是事實。只是這篇文章我還是相當想去批判, 因為這篇文章多半 AI 的負面資訊,其實早就是前半段的事情。 根本不需要在他今年六月要33歲時,或離開七六人已經31歲時說這種東西, 好像站在球隊角度掃掉壞胚子一樣,交易那時早已不是那樣。 以球隊角度,一次次的換手來打造七六人都效果不彰, 最後在任用Mo Cheeks、ai 起飛、KK 小戴進步、選進Carney等一堆年輕人, 早已是要為重建做準備,這時候換掉 AI ,我就說以球隊的角度, 也沒比這時更適合的了。那我為何那麼 按 在心裡? 你重建就重建、起飛就起飛,最後先冰 Webber,然後冰 AI, 然後把 AI 的意見當屁(應該說根本沒聽),球隊所有事情都自做自的, 然後火速交易掉 AI,然後把Locker清空,你XX的真的當 AI 是蟑螂垃圾嗎? 就是這樣,對於本篇外電還有些心得懶得講有空再回吧… 我會想以 NBA、七六人,再怎麼說都是商業來探討這些問題… -- ///|||\\\喂!!我說他們已經走了!!!\◣◣__http://0rz.tw/8437C _ \ ╲/ ψfreijaking\/ \ / ▏ │ │ │ │ |◥◥\╲誰會躲在那罐頭裡阿!!!\◤◤◤▏ │ │ │ │ \ \\/▃╬ バカ!おまえはバカだ!!\/ ▏ │ │ │ │ C __ \ \ │ │ │ │ E \\ | バカじゃない! 桂だ!! \/▏ │ ψfreijaking -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 169.231.47.20

03/20 14:02, , 1F
There is no Allen Iverson. <== 本日催淚第一名
03/20 14:02, 1F
※ 編輯: freijaking 來自: 169.231.47.20 (03/20 14:03)

03/20 14:16, , 2F
There is no Allen Iverson. 好感傷..QQ
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03/20 14:17, , 3F
今天AI的鞋超感傷...
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03/20 14:20, , 4F
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03/20 14:34, , 5F
你們再說..我就真的要哭了..
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03/20 14:37, , 6F
Comcast Nation 的意思是
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03/20 14:37, , 7F
Wachovia Center 的三隻費城不同運動的球隊
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03/20 14:37, , 8F
都是 Comcast Sportsnet 擁有轉播權
03/20 14:37, 8F

03/20 14:38, , 9F
而且 Comcast Network 本身就是七六人隊的擁有者
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03/20 14:39, , 10F
所以 Comcast Nation 的意思應該是暱稱七六人的場子 XD
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03/20 14:49, , 11F
comcast那段.. 是說.. 只要AI還可以賣票吸引fans進場
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03/20 14:50, , 12F
他就有留下來的價值 可是票房一旦往下掉
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03/20 14:50, , 13F
以前那些被默許的事情突然就變的罪大惡極 然後被交易出去
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03/20 14:51, , 14F
comcast nation = 76人的管理階級
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03/20 15:25, , 15F
幹 我沒去過費城主場 但是我看到那句話好想哭.....
03/20 15:25, 15F

03/20 15:26, , 16F
There is no Allen Iverson. 我真的鼻酸...
03/20 15:26, 16F

03/20 15:40, , 17F
翻外電長知識 XD
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03/20 15:45, , 18F
當初CW4來和AI搭配時我真的非常興奮 因為我覺得AI最好搭配
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03/20 15:45, , 19F
進攻強力大前鋒或是中鋒 無奈沒多久CW4幾乎被冰很少上場
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03/20 15:45, , 20F
目前期望NENE能趕快好起來 另外再找一個有三分能力的大鎖即可
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03/20 15:55, , 21F
那個Webber早已不是那個Webber,Mo也沒善用他還有的能力
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03/20 15:57, , 22F
那時候有陰謀論 先冰CW再冰AI一次清掉
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03/20 15:59, , 23F
在陰謀論之前其實也打了一陣子,但CW總只當苦工用
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03/20 16:00, , 24F
CW的天才簡直無法形容,金塊可能很多天才都比不上 @@
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03/20 16:00, , 25F
那陣子CW超委屈 明明上一季還能有近20 10的成績
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03/20 16:02, , 26F
防守方面一隊可能只能容許一個點最多,AI已經太矮,CW
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03/20 16:02, , 27F
的傷讓他移動太慢,他可當苦工頂但被切完全無法跟
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03/20 16:03, , 28F
我記得當初AI+CW4 平均也有超50分吧 只是其他人還未成熟
03/20 16:03, 28F

03/20 16:10, , 29F
雖然已經喜歡上金塊,但有那麼點想AI穿著七六隊衣打比賽
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03/20 16:13, , 30F
當初CW4的交易案讓76人的板凳失血太嚴重了
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03/20 16:16, , 31F
那時就一直在抱怨 沒籃板^^" Dalembert 又有傷...
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03/20 16:23, , 32F
當時換CW的三換三主菜是現在國王的黑洞板凳KT
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03/20 16:24, , 33F
不過也是繼會拼命的Harpring被秒到別隊後另一個認真的
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03/20 18:10, , 34F
撲~~明明就是尼自己認領的~~還怪我(攤手)~XD
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03/20 21:26, , 35F
感謝~~~推
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03/20 21:26, , 36F
感動
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03/22 08:31, , 37F
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03/22 08:41, , 38F
T_________T
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03/22 08:53, , 39F
外電好 感動
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03/22 08:54, , 40F
我只是尿急
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03/22 08:56, , 41F
離開後的AI,留下的是對三號的思念
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03/22 08:57, , 42F
既然推的比5566少?
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03/22 08:57, , 43F
竟然
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03/22 10:02, , 44F
5566情意相挺 p^_^q
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03/22 15:17, , 45F
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