[閒聊] Who's Better:Hedo or Rashard?

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蠻有趣的話題 NBA / Sep 22, 2009 / 10:00 am http://dimemag.com/2009/09/whos-better-hedo-turkoglu-or-rashard-lewis/ Who’s Better: Hedo Turkoglu or Rashard Lewis? By Dime Magazine Hedo in T-Dot We argue. You decide. HEDO TURKOGLU (by Ben York) If I’m honest, I’m not a big fan of either Hedo or Rashard. In my humble opinion, I think they are both a bit overpaid, overrated, and over-hyped. However, when comparing the two in order to determine who is better, my money is undoubtedly on Hedo. 老實說,我並非Hedo或Rashard的球迷。我的淺見是,他們兩個都有點過於昂貴、被高估 、過分誇大。然而,當比較這兩人時誰更好時,無疑的我會選Hedo。 During the playoff run for the Magic last year, he was the glue that ultimately held the team together. Rashard would show up for one game, then be completely absent the next. Dwight Howard was getting double and triple-teamed in the post, Jameer Nelson was hurt, and the rest of the team was inconsistent at best. This was a time when we really were able to see how versatile of a player Hedo is, and his overall worth to a team. Hence, a subsequent $53 million dollar deal to Toronto… 在上季魔術的季後賽之旅,他是最終凝聚團隊戰力的要角。Rashard卻可能一場大爆發、 下一場就隱形。魔獸在低位被雙人包夾或者三夾,尼二嬸又受傷,其餘的隊員充其量也 不過是不協調的戰力。然後這就是我們見證Hedo價值的時候了,還有他對於團隊來說的重 要性。因此暴龍奉上了5千3百萬交易他到多倫多。 Hedo’s career averages aren’t anything to write home about. But, then again, neither are Rashard’s. Hedo boasts averages of about 12 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists per game, while Rashard is good for about 17 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists each night. Rashard is probably better statistically (and will continue to be), but in this instance, the better player is determined by versatility rather than sheer numbers. Hedo的生涯平均並非令人驚奇的,但Rashard的生涯也不是。Hedo有著足以自誇的場均12 分5籃板3助攻,但Rashard有著更好的場均17分6籃板2助攻。 也許Rashard在技術統計上是更好的(將來可能也還會是如此),但在這個實例裡,誰是更 好的球員這問題,取決於其場上是否能全能的貢獻而非只是帳面上的數據。 Hedo’s ultimate value and worth lie in his ability to play multiple positions on the floor and be just as effective at each. Quite simply, he has a “basketball” mind; he knows when to take over, when to slow things down, get his teammates involved, or just make the right play. Averaging about five assists in the last two seasons for the Magic, it’s clear Hedo has grown as a player and is becoming more complete. Hedo最大的價值在於他能打許多個位置,並且在該位置上都能發揮影響力。簡單來說,他 有打籃球的頭腦。他知道何時該接管比賽,何時該慢下節奏、讓他的隊友參與進攻、或者 僅是執行了正確的play。上賽季他在魔術平均約五助攻,很明顯的他成長了,成為更趨近 完全的球員。 Rashard, however, is going the other way. His scoring average decreased the last two seasons, along with his FG%, 3pt%, FT%, steals, and he’s seen an increase in the number of times he turns the ball over. Rashard is solely looked at to score the ball and shoot well from the perimeter. While there’s nothing wrong with that, Hedo can clearly do much more on the basketball court to enhance his team. Rashard,相反的,迥然相異於Hedo。他的平均得分在近兩季減少了,還伴隨著FG%、3pt% 、FT%、抄截等數據的下降,與失誤的提升。Rashard他僅是專注於得分和外線投射,雖然 沒有什麼不對,但Hedo在場上能做到更多事來提升球隊。 The matchup problems he creates for opposing teams are almost unrivaled. His increased ability to put the ball on the floor and drive to the basket has defenders unable to play too close to him to prevent his shot. When he does drive, he has a unique quickness and vision of the court for a man of his size (6-10) and can find other stagnant players (cough…Rashard…cough) for easy buckets. 他製造的對位問題對於敵隊來說是難以匹敵的,他提升了他的運球與切入讓對手無法太近 身來守他的跳投。他有著獨一無二的速度和視野(對於一個6-10的長人來說) 並且能傳給 等球的球員 (咳…就是你啦 Rashard …咳) 簡單的得分。 Ultimately, what seals the deal for me in regards to Hedo, was Stan Van Gundy ’s reliance on him in the closing seconds of games (i.e. the ‘08/09 playoffs) as opposed to Rashard. Hedo used a myriad of ways to beat defenders to get that last shot off, while Rashard was left standing in the corner, waiting for someone else to make something happen so he could shoot. 最終,我對於Hedo所下的結論,來自於Stan Van Gundy最比賽最後幾秒時對Hedo的依賴( 相對於Rashard來說)。Hedo有無數種方法來擊敗防守者投進關鍵一擊,而Rashard只是被 晾在角落等球。 Hedo all the way. 所以Hedo完勝。 Raw Lew Raw Lew RASHARD LEWIS (by A. Burton) …Written under the influence of Janet Jackson’s “Got ‘Til it’s Gone”… As a Sonics fan, I never fully appreciated Rashard Lewis when he was in Seattle. For a guy standing 6-10, built slender yet cut-up like a light heavyweight, he played a little too soft for me. He loitered around the three-point line more than I thought he should have, was never too enthusiastic about defense or rebounding, and generally put the “small” in small forward. Sure, Raw Lew had a 50-point game here and an All-Star selection there, and he ultimately left Seattle as the franchise’s fourth all-time leading scorer and Top-10 in almost every other major stat category (No. 1 in threes), but he was never totally embraced by the fan base. So when he left for Orlando in ’07 — overpaid in the eyes of most — Seattle wasn’ t crying over it; especially because we had Kevin Durant (the updated version of the skinny teenager we once had in Rashard) coming in to take his place. 做為一個超音速球迷,我從未欣賞過超音速時期的Rashard。一個6-10的大個子,卻纖瘦 的像是輕重量級般滑稽,他的球風實在太軟了。他太多時候都在三分線閒晃,完全沒有防 守或搶籃板的熱情,並且還打的比一般小前鋒更外面。沒錯,Rashard拿過50分也入選過 全明星賽,他最終離開了西雅圖,一個隊史得分第四幾乎所有數據都名列隊史前十的招牌 球員(三分球是第一),但他從未完全被西雅圖球迷認同接受。所以當她遠走奧蘭多,以我 看過Overpaid最多的天價加盟魔術。西雅圖並沒有為其哭泣;特別是我們有了Durant(新 版、加強版的Rashard)來帶領球隊,誰還理兩千萬咧。 Since then, I’ve realized what we had in Rashard. You only need one hand to count the number of players 6-10 and up who can shoot the rock better than Rashard (and Hedo Turkoglu isn’t on that list). He led the NBA in threes last season with 220, and finished third the season before that. And while he might not do it as much as you’d like, he can effectively create his own shot off the dribble and score in the post. In Orlando’s run to the Finals, Lewis consistently delivered in crunch time, hitting rally buckets, game-winners and daggers throughout the playoffs. 自那以後,我了解到我們擁有過的Rashard。6-10以上的球員裡比Rashard更會射的,你只 消一隻手就數的完 (Hedo並沒名列其上)。他是上季NBA三分球射最多的人(220球),進球 量則排第三。他的球風可能不是你喜好的那樣,但他能有效率的創造他的跳投並且得分。 在魔術進軍總冠軍賽時,Lewis在關鍵時刻持續的射個不停,投進振奮人心的跳投、致勝 球,在整個季後賽裡就像匕首般讓對手芒刺在背。 Rashard has flaws, most visibly on defense and in the fact that he’s not a go-to player. He also shoots too many threes. He’s not the one to initiate an offense like Turkoglu, but will round that offense out into a lethal force with his ability to score from outside, mid-range and in the paint. He’s a specialist – a professional scorer and shooter. Rashard有缺陷,最明顯的是在防守上而事實上他也並非go to guy。他也投了太多三分 他並非像Turkoglu那樣的進攻發動者,但他擁有致命的得分能力,從外線、中距離、或者 油漆區。他是個得分和跳投的專家。 At 30 years old — a seemingly young 30 compared to Hedo’s old 30 — Rashard is coming off his most complete and accomplished pro season, and he doesn’t show signs of slowing down. He averaged 17.7 points and 5.7 boards while hitting 39 percent of his threes and 83 percent at the line – numbers he then improved in the playoffs, putting up 19 points and 6.4 rebounds and outperforming Turkoglu as a scorer, shooter and rebounder. Several teams have a small forward who can run the offense; fewer have a power forward who can stretch defenses and create mismatches like Rashard, who has been the X-factor in Orlando’s success since his arrival. 30歲的Rashard,看起來是更為年輕的30歲相較於Hedo的。Rashard剛經歷了最完整和成熟 的職業賽季,但他卻沒有絲毫變慢的跡象。他還是能以39%的三分命中率83%的罰球命中率 得到場均17分5.7籃板,在季後賽更近一步的拿下19分6.4籃板,做為一個得分手、射手 、籃板球員方面是優於Turkoglu的。很多球隊的小前鋒都能進攻,但少有大前鋒能像 Rashard那樣拉開防守範圍並製造錯位,自從他來到後這就成為了魔術贏球的X因子。 After all, there’s a reason Eastern Conference coaches chose Rashard for the ’09 All-Star Game, while Hedo was left at home. 東區教練會選Rashard進09全明星賽而非Hedo,終究不是沒有原因的。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.116.103.36 ※ 編輯: badprince 來自: 140.116.103.36 (09/26 02:03)

09/26 02:55, , 1F
Hero的buzzer beat實在讓人印象太深了
09/26 02:55, 1F

09/26 02:56, , 2F
另外lewis的打法確實較單調些 期待新球季能夠爆一下
09/26 02:56, 2F

09/26 04:10, , 3F
我受不了Hedo的低命中率...(除了罰球)新賽季算是解脫了
09/26 04:10, 3F

09/26 04:11, , 4F
祝福Hedo在多倫多也能出色發揮~
09/26 04:11, 4F

09/26 04:13, , 5F
走了Hedo來了更強勢的Carter..Lewis數據會維持平盤嗎?
09/26 04:13, 5F

09/26 11:02, , 6F
我覺得Hedo傳導性>Lewis 他比較類似等球的射手 需要有
09/26 11:02, 6F

09/26 11:04, , 7F
人幫他穿針引線 不過下季還可期待二嬸跟Carter給他的切
09/26 11:04, 7F

09/26 11:04, , 8F
傳 效用應該也不差才是.....前提是他不能有一場沒一場
09/26 11:04, 8F

09/26 11:04, , 9F
的暴發........
09/26 11:04, 9F

09/26 12:56, , 10F
我是覺得補了兩個PF以後 Lewis更能常下低位單打對方SF
09/26 12:56, 10F

09/26 12:58, , 11F
也許有助於他的發揮
09/26 12:58, 11F

09/26 21:02, , 12F
爆發這種事本來就是有一場沒一場 不然就不叫爆發了
09/26 21:02, 12F

09/26 21:02, , 13F
維持平均數據就好了
09/26 21:02, 13F

09/26 21:52, , 14F
感覺只要Lewis到SF 效應應該會高很多才對 真的很期待
09/26 21:52, 14F

09/26 21:53, , 15F
Nelson和Cater 還期待一個人 Ryan Anderson 感覺應該會適
09/26 21:53, 15F

09/26 21:54, , 16F
合魔術體系
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09/26 23:38, , 17F
貓人卡特又出現了
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09/27 09:12, , 18F
d大 我的意思就是他不要數據一下很高 一下又幾乎消失...
09/27 09:12, 18F

09/27 09:13, , 19F
以他的身手應該更好才對......
09/27 09:13, 19F
※ 編輯: badprince 來自: 140.116.103.36 (09/30 10:33)

11/12 15:57, , 20F
卡狗很強很秋是不是 和麥一輪一樣都是他媽的巨大垃圾 糙
11/12 15:57, 20F
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