Re: O'neal is a clown~

看板Penny_1作者kart (=\)時間20年前 (2005/03/19 04:08)推噓1(1推 0噓 0→)

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※ 引述《Mies (The winner is)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《kart (=\)》之銘言： : : Yea, you are right. But upon what you've said, I strongly : : doube it you have read Penny's words at all or watched his game. : 這樣說好像你最瞭解Penny，我們都是聽別人講的？ Well, I think it's you who feels the negative of any article that is opposite to your opinion. R big's reply made you write this article. But certainly, you didn't listen to him well, you just think he is one of the "Penny is always right" fan, and you want to prove you are different than those kind of fans, but I am telling you, you are just on the wrong end of it. I am not telling you that I am the one who understand Penny most, but interestingly, You just said so in your last post, you said, "I strongly doubt if anyone love Penny as much as you did." If you ever noticed, even though I've been writing about Penny for some websites since like 7 or 8 years ago, I NEVER said I am the one who knows Penny the best, but it seems I did know more than you. At least for any report, I will find out what Penny himself says first , then I did my judgement from there. Not just do judgement from a news. Like when I post a news, I always quote what the person actually says. For this quote, O'neal did say something even reporters said "strange." And you can kinda tell how inappropriate it is. : : You sure you are Jordan fan? : : Jordan got all the advantage a refereee can give to him. : : So in any ONE game, he is always the one who got the right side of refs. : : Of course there will be some "doubtful calls", but in ONE game, : : he knows he will win the refs because of his reputation. : 我認識到Jordan的內在特質，也喜歡這種特質，所以，我可以大聲說我是 : 因為你只看到事情的表象，所以也讓我懷疑你是不是也只看到Penny的表象而ꐊ Ha~ OK, so base on what you said, you "think" you know the inner part of Jordan? Funny as you are, Jordan is certainly not the Jordan you know. Yea, Jordan is Jordan, he got the winning ability and attitude, but he is not the one who owns most sportsmanship. : : The "winning factor" you are saying here, I think is kinda equal to : : "trash talk" ability. Someboday says before, : : Mike is only behind Miller on this category-- trash talk category. : : The "honorable" Mike you respect is a trash talk queen!! : : I like Mike as well, but I know he trash talk his opponent a lot : : as one of his weapon, he is not that honorable as you said. : 哈哈，看到這，我想我還有什麼好跟你談的...... : 你已經不是我想像中的可敬的球迷了... You know what? The irrespectable fans are the ones who reply like you just did, just made a bold statement without giving out an argument. That certainly sounds like what irrational fans do. =) : : All you are saying seems like to say the current Penny, not old Penny. : : And ridiculously you said Penny started to lose after O'neal left : : because he only got one weapon? I can only shake my head, this means : : you didn't watch Penny's game at all. : : I can tell you now, in games Penny has played before 2000, the winning : : percentage is above 70%. This is amazing, it's much higher than : : O'neal, even higher than Jordan. And this number pretty much tell you : : how wrong you are. : 你要不要解釋一下70％數據有什麼意義？ Did you understand what I am saying? : 平均不到十七八分，季後賽一直出現我提到的種種敗象然後輸掉 Did you watch any Penny's game? : 在太陽得分助攻上場時間還不是最高的， Did you really know what are you talking? You watch any NBA game? : 球隊勝利的功勞卻都是他的？ Nope! Penny's attitude is always humble. But notice here, it's O'neal who says he deserves everything, OK? : 其他球員、教練、團隊是屁呀？我不曉得這能證明什麼 It proves you REALLY didn't watch any Penny's game, that's why you don't understand what I am saying. : 這只是每況愈下的一個階段罷了 ???????????? : : One more thing, I do agree Penny is not aggressive as he should be. : : But I think he is ready anytime in his prime. : : That's why he is the Mr. Playoff. Because he play his best when the team : : needs him the most, but the premise is, only if his teammates are happy : : and the coach is happy. : : Thats also the reason why in 1997 playoffs, he tried to pass a lot : : in the first 2 games, but after down by 0-2, and coach said he should : : shoot first, pass second, and he exploded for high scoring the next : : 3 games, doesn't even need to warm up. Because, he is ready for that : : position, anywhere, anytime. : 難道其他Penny迷只記得這年的輝煌...如果經的起考驗不會淪落到今天 No, but it's one of the obveious example. And please notice here, 1997 Penny is not the prime time penny. I will say he is only about 80% that time. If you watch Penny's year in 95-96 with or without O'neal, that's the prime time Penny. But we are not even talking about prime time Penny, I am talking about Penny's attitude toward being aggressive or not. I said he stands up when the team needs him the most. He averaged over 21 points in 2000 playoffs. Because Kidd was injured. He average over 30 points in 1997 playoffs, because the team needed him. You see what my point is here? And even last year, he averaged over 15 or 16 points, because TT is injured. He is ready whenever the team needs him. Did you ever get what I am saying? If so, gimme more examples to prove YOU ARE RIGHT. Don't just throw out statements, OK? Be rational! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 169.232.136.37 ※ 編輯: kart 來自: 169.232.136.37 (03/19 05:20)