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看板Phillies作者Fukudome (殘劍狂千秋)時間10年前 (2014/06/04 23:20)推噓1(1推 0噓 1→)

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※ 引述《Fukudome (殘劍狂千秋)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《Fukudome (殘劍狂千秋)》之銘言： : 5. "Right now, we're not playing like contenders," Amaro said. "Unless things : change fairly dramatically over the next couple of weeks, we have to start : thinking about which direction we're going to go." : 坦白說...就算真的在今年大拍賣換來一些Prospect : 由於Amaro the Bumbler在交易上、其幕僚決定挑選哪些Prospect為交易對象的眼光上 : 還有悲劇農場養成上的三重無能...這爛隊依然毫無前景可言... : 真的要變強一定得先從砍掉笨蛋GM開始重建的第一步官網記者Todd Zolecki也是這麼說的 http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2014/06/03/fire-sale-looming/ 擷取幾段重點 Fire Sale Looming They are 24-31 overall. They were 26-29 at this point last year, when they were on their way to 89 losses. I’m typically one to preach patience during a 162-game season because it is difficult to draw concrete conclusions about a team a little more than two months into it. I often remind people about the deficits the 2007 and 2008 Phillies overcame to win the National League East: seven down with 17 to play in 2007 and 3 ½ back with 16 to play in 2008. But those teams did at least one thing very, very well. Those teams had the best offense in the National League. They hit the cover off the ball. They also had a very good bullpen down the stretch in 2007 and a great one throughout 2008. They also played good defense. 我一直是「認為目前也只打兩個月還有時間可以期待反彈」的樂天派，我常提醒人們費城在07、08年季末演出的大逆轉戲碼，因為那時的費城有好的攻擊、好的牛棚還有好的防守 But the 2014 Phillies don’t do anything well. You can’t say, “This team has fantastic starting pitching, so if they can just add a bullpen arm and get Domonic Brown going they should be OK.” 但2014的費城在各方面都很爛，你不該也不會有「這球隊目前先發表現不錯，所以只要再補牛棚然後等待Domo反彈就可以回到競爭行列」這樣的期待 There are holes everywhere. 因為這爛隊的洞實在太多 * Brown is hitting .206 with six doubles, one triple, four home runs, 27 RBIs, 15 walks, 36 strikeouts and a .557 OPS through the team’s first 55 games. It reminds me of Pat Burrell’s 2003 season. Burrell’s struggles were a huge story that year. Fans wanted him sent to Triple-A, like Brown. I got emails from people asking about Burrell’s eyesight or other ailments that might be affecting him at the plate. But through 55 games in 2003, Burrell was hitting .204 with 13 doubles, one triple, 10 home runs, 25 RBIs, 31 walks, 64 strikeouts and a .751 OPS. Amazing. Burrell’s OPS was nearly 200 points higher than Brown’s is today. 現在的Domo讓我想到2003年的Pat Burrell，他在那年的前55場也是打得很爛，當時球迷也像現在這樣喊著要將Burrell下放3A，我還接到許多email來問Burrell的眼睛或是其它身體狀況有沒有問題，至於當時的Burrell和現在的Domo是誰比較糟糕... AVG 2B 3B HR RBI BB K OPS Pat .204 13 1 10 25 31 64 .751 Domo .206 6 1 4 27 15 36 .557 驚人的是...就算當時Burrell一直被K打得如此掙扎，他的OPS依然比現在的Domo高過2成 What is even more amazing? Burrell’s .751 OPS would be fifth among Phillies everyday players this year. Only Chase Utley (.895), Marlon Byrd (.807), Carlos Ruiz (.791) and Cody Asche (.771) are higher. 更驚人的是...當時掙扎的Burrell打出來的成績與現在的打線相比...現在也只有4個球員打得比Burrell還好 Could Brown be sent to the minors? I doubt it. If this team is headed toward a fire sale, you might want to play Brown, hope he gets hot and make him a trade candidate along with others. Domo會被送回3A嗎？我感到懷疑，因為如果球隊要開起拍賣模式的話，一定會讓Domo繼續上場，賭看看他是否會在交易大限之前回溫，然後趁機把他賣掉。譯按︰笨蛋GM去年季末沒趁高點賣掉Domo這點從去年底我早就靠北好幾次了 -_- 現在後悔已經來不及，看他打球和守備的散漫鳥樣就知道回溫是不可能的，免肖想 * Why isn’t Ken Giles in the big leagues? I understood why the Phillies didn’t promote him four, five, six, seven, eight weeks into the season, but I thought he was getting close. But after this homestand I’m not sure what the rush is. Why bring him into this environment? It isn’t like he is a savior. It’s not like this team is one arm away from dominance. You might as well keep him in Triple-A, continue to develop him at a good pace and bring him up when he is better prepared. He has eight strikeouts and seven walks in 12 2/3 innings in Triple-A, compared to 29 strikeouts and five walks in 15 innings in Double-A. Things haven’t been as easy for him in Triple-A. Not that he isn’t a better option than some of what is currently in the Phillies’ bullpen, but you don’t want to bring him up before he is ready, have him get screwed up mentally and lose him down the road. He is too important. 我可以理解有些人會問為什麼還不叫Ken Giles上來，我想他是接近了，但還不是時候... 這爛隊的洞太多，現在叫Giles上來並沒有什麼意義，就算他丟得很好也無法成為這個到處都是洞的爛隊的救世主。既然就算Giles丟得很好也於事無補而且這樣做也存在rush的風險，倒不如讓他在3A繼續丟現在的他在3A還有很大的進步空間（12.2局裡雖然有8K但也送出7BB）等他真的準備好了再帶他上來，你不會想在球隊低迷的時候還因為錯誤的決策而折損這位未來的closer...畢竟他對我們實在太重要！譯按︰不能同意更多！所以我當初說要上來補牛棚右投位置的應該是Martin...結果居然是摳只會丟BB彈的廢物Aumont...只能慶幸還好不是摳Giles * I wonder what Utley would say if the Phillies came to him in July with a trade proposal? 我想知道如果到7月時球隊跟追追說要交易他，追追是否會同意放棄NTC？ But even if that scenario happens – Ruben Amaro Jr. said recently they have zero interest in trading Utley and he reiterated that this morning on 94 WIP calling it a “moot point” — the other issue is the Phillies’ ability to identify talent in trades. Can the Phillies’ talent evaluators get quality in return for Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, A.J. Burnett, Kyle Kendrick, Jonathan Papelbon, Mike Adams, Byrd, Antonio Bastardo, etc.? 雖然無能GM前陣子已經表態不會交易追追，但假使這情況真的發生，我們更該擔心的問題其實是『無能GM的交易能力』和『無能GM幕僚選人的眼光』是否真能為球隊換回什麼好貨 The Phillies have traded Lee, Hunter Pence, Shane Victorino, Jim Thome, Michael Young and Joe Blanton in recent years for a group that includes Phillippe Aumont Tyson Gillies, J.C. Ramirez, Nate Schierholtz, Tommy Joseph, Seth Rosin, Josh Lindblom, Ethan Martin, Stefan Jarrin, Ryan O’Sullivan, Rob Rasmussen, Kyle Simon and Gabriel Lino. 我們過去幾年已經賣過Lee、Pence、Victorino、Thome、Young、Blanton，從這6次交易中拿回一些年輕肉體 Some of those players weren’t going to net blue-chip prospects (Thome, Blanton and Young) and Joseph and Martin could still develop into something. 當然Thome、Blanton、Young這三次的交易本來就不預期能拿到什麼好貨，而從Victorino 換來的主菜Martin和從Pence換來的主菜Joseph，兩位仍然被寄以希望能在未來帶來貢獻。譯按︰一定要再複習一下無能GM做出的史上最悲劇的小李交易 Lee ←→ Phillippe Aumont（交易主菜，但就只是BB彈連發的廢物BJ4） J.C. Ramirez（去年只上來丟24局就被DFA，現在是笑臉人的roster filler） Tyson Gillies（沒上過ML，估計未來也不會上ML，年底就要被踢出40人名單）我還蠻看好這三隻以後很有機會可以站穩大聯盟的...中華職棒大聯盟... 到時一定買票去看～～～ But the Phillies haven’t hit in numerous trades, free agent signings and other personnel evaluations in recent years, including the draft. 回顧這些年來，無能GM與他的幕僚在交易、在簽FA、在交易或選秀時評估新秀的能力等等各項都是悲劇。 Would you feel comfortable having the Phillies trade an iconic player like Utley or Jimmy Rollins knowing the recent track record? 那你現在還會覺得將追追和J-Ro交易出去卻因為GM無能的交易能力和幕僚落漆的評選眼光造成換回來的是一群雜魚這樣的悲劇是值得開心的事嗎？ If Utley and Rollins play for a few more years with the success they are having this year they could be Hall of Fame candidates. 那倒不如就留住他們，而且健康的他們如果能在未來幾年繼續複製今年的成功的話，那麼這兩張球隊的臉就有機會以終身費城的樣子進入名人堂！ “We have quality scouts. We have good people working for us. I’ve got great advisors,” Amaro said on WIP. 編按︰ＷＴＦ這段自我感覺良好根本是在公然說謊...-_-凸 “We believe in the decisions that we’ll have to make. Right now, it’s not translating on the field and all of us are part of this. We’re in it when we’re not doing well and we’re all together when we’re having success. But I believe in our staff. I believe in the front office of our organization. If we have to make those decisions we’ll be very prepared.” 編按︰自我感覺良好到了極點....-_-凸 The Phillies have less than two months before the July 31 trade deadline. That should be enough time to get ready, barring a dramatic and unforeseen turnaround 左樂崎表示︰離731交易大限還有整整兩個月，有這麼足夠的時間你Amaro最好給我準備好再去談交易這爛隊已經人神共憤到連官網記者這麼右派的都在自己的部落格開砲吐槽了 ┐(─__─)┌ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.60.105.102 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Phillies/M.1401895211.A.C6B.html ※ 編輯: Fukudome (61.60.105.102), 06/04/2014 23:55:45