2009 TAMPA BAY RAYS SEASON PREVIEW[翻譯]

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※ 引述《abc12812 ()》之銘言: 總翻譯 大家比較容易看^^ 感謝catsondbs翻譯 : Sunday, February 01, 2009 by Baseball Savant : The thing I remember most about the Rays before the 2008 season began was : listening to Buster Olney on ESPN Radio one morning talking about how he : could see the Rays winning the AL East. At the time I thought he was nuts. : Sure the Rays were shaping up to be a pretty good club, but I thought their : real breakout would be 2009 or 2010. 在08年球季之前我對光芒的最深的印象就是Buster Olney某天在ESPN上 講說光芒會如何贏得08的美東冠軍。 那時我覺得那只是個玩笑,當然我知道光芒是好的球隊, 而且我覺得光芒真正爆發是在2009或者是2010年 : The Rays thought otherwise and proved Olney's premonition correct. The Rays : had a tremendous season in 2008. They won 97-games, the AL East and the AL en : route to the World Series where they fell to the Philadelphia Phillies in : 5-games. I thiny any discussion of the Rays is always going to center around : the supposed "blueprint" they've somehow showed that works against big market : teams. Unfortunately this theory has about as many holes in as can possibly : be tolerated. 光芒證明Olney的預測是對的,他們有猛獸般的08球季,總共贏了97場並拿下美東冠軍、 美聯冠軍直指世界大賽,但是在世界大賽敗給費城人隊。討論光芒的重點就在"藍圖" 而這點是跟大市場完全不同的。不幸的是這個理論有許多缺點,但可能可以被忍受。 : Let's think about it for a minute. They got Kazmir in a huge ripoff of the : Mets. They took Carlos Pena off the scrap heap. Turned a former #1 pick into : Matt Garza. Had a 16th round pick (James Shields) turn into gold. Signed : Iwamura from Japan, got JP Howell from Kansas City in the Joey Gathright : deal. Got Dan Wheeler for Ty Wiggington. Took Grant Balfour off the scrap : head and traded for Chad Bradord. Combine that with a TON of first round : draft picks that have worked out (Longoria, Upton, Garza, Crawford & Price) : and you have the Rays blueprint. 我們試著想一想。他們從梅子那裡大搶劫來Kazmir、從土推裡找來Carlos Pena、用第一 輪選手換來Matt Garza(楊大猛←→Garza)、把第16輪的J.Shields變成黃金、從日本簽來 岩村、用新一代腿哥J.Gathright跟皇家換來JP Howell、用Wiggington換Wheeler、從土 推撿到Balfour和交易到潛水艇Braford。結合一堆第一輪(Longoria, Upton, Garza, Crawford and Price),然後光芒得到他們的藍圖 : The problem is that this a blueprint that is almost unsustainable. Who bats : 1.000 with first round draft picks? Who takes Bryan Bullington over BJ Upton? : Who now is going to trade a Scott Kamir for Victor Zambrano? : At the same time you have to give credit where credit is due. Pulling guys : like Pena, Iwamura, and Balfour off of scrap heaps was amazing. Dealing Young : for Garza, Wiggington for Wheeler and Gathright for Howell were brilliant : moves in retrospect and let's not forget how big of a deal Eric Hinske was : for Tampa Bay early in 2008! The guy hit like a machine and really propelled : the Rays offense early on. The Rays also brought in Gabe Gross to play some : RF last season in a deal with Milwaukee. 問題在於這個藍圖幾乎無法維持,誰可以百分百確定第一輪可以順利養成? 誰會把Bryan Bullington選在BJ Upton前面?(海盜躺著也重槍...) 誰會用V.Zambrano來換S.Kamzir? 撿到Pena,Balfour和岩村是令人驚豔的,回想交易到Garza,Wheeler和Howell是聰明之舉 但我們不能忘記恨司機在08年的表現,他打擊就像個機器而且幫助光芒的防守 光芒也用G.Gross擔任RF腳色 : By all accounts GM Andrew Friedman did a tremendous job assembling the 2008 : Tampa Bay Rays. This year he's pulled some more moves. The base of the team : is pretty much exactly the same but there are some subtle moves that could : pay big dividends for Tampa Bay in 2009. Signing Pat Burrell to play DH was a : fantastic move. Burrell becomes automatically the best DH Tampa has ever had. : He brings to the team tremendous plate discipline and the ability to hit : 30-35HR per year. Friedman dealt an extra arm in Edwin Jackson to the Tigers : for RF Matt Joyce. Joyce potentially has 30HR power and can play a : staggeringly good defense in RF. GM在08作了太棒的工作了,09他也做了一些補強動作而這些動作將會帶給光芒很大的幫助 簽下P.Burrell當DH,Burrell自動成為TB有史以來最好的DH,他擁有極佳的本壘板紀律 而且有能力每年敲出30-35HR。GM把E.Jackson交易到老虎得到M.Joyce,Joyce則有年產 30HR的潛力,而且在RF有良好的防守 : Friedman did a good job of getting his pitching staff fortified too. David : Price will now enter the rotation as a full time starter, taking over where : Edwin Jackson left off. Clearly Price has the talent to be a dominant #1 : starter in the major leagues and gaining an arm like that only can improve : the ballclub. In the pen, Friedman didn't rest on his laurels of already : having the best bullpen in the majors. He added guys like Joe Smith, Brian : Shouse and Lance Cormier to provide some depth to go along with dominant : pitchers such as Grant Balfour, JP Howell and Dan Wheeler. GM也加強的投手部分。Top 1新秀D.Price代替Jackson的工作終於加入輪值,很清楚的 Price有當ACE的天份。在牛棚 GM並沒有因為去年是全MLB最佳牛棚而停下腳步,加入了 J.Smith, B.Shouse和L.Cormier來增加深度 : So that is sort of the blueprint Tampa is going under. It's really a great : blueprint and I think that is the real story of Tampa in 2008. They busted : out earlier than I expected, but as all Oakland A's fans know, the real test : comes with repeatability and let's not forget that Tampa didn't come home : with the prize. Last year was an insane year for Tampa. They went from worst : to first and got to the World Series, but now is when the grind for elite : status begins and if the Rays keep winning then they won't have #1 draft : picks to replenish their system. At some point if they keep payroll stagnant : they'll have to keep finding diamonds in the rough and making their draft : choices even more shrewdly because the obvious pick won't be there. They : drafted SS Tim Beckham last season with the #1 overall pick, but that might : be their last #1 pick for quite awhile. 所以這就是光芒藍圖的類型 光芒持續贏球 他們無法再拿到第一順位的選秀來補充他們的農場,而且如果光芒的預算 不能擴大,他們只能在草堆裡尋找鑽石而且在選秀裡更加精明 去年他們選T.Beckham為狀元郎,但是這很可能是光芒一段時間內最後的第一順位了 : Will this blueprint cash in on what was missed last season? Let's take a look. : 2009 RAYS STARTING LINEUP : C-Dioner Navarro: 295/349/407; 7HR, 27-2B, 54RBI, 12.6AB/BB, 0SB, 98OPS+ : It's odd to think Navarro is just going to be 25-years old because it seems : he's been around forever. Maybe that's me being a Yankees fan and knowing : about him since he's come up through the minor leagues, but still. If you can : believe from the above stat line, Navarro was actually an All-Star last : season. This had more to do with the fact that Posada & Martinez were hurt : and Varitek is just a shell of his former self, but for now, Navarro is not : only an All-Star catcher but also a championship caliber catcher if you : believe in that sort of thing when a team makes it to the World Series. Last : season Navarro's offense was carried by his .321 BABIP which drove his : batting average to almost .300. For his career to date his established BABIP : is only .292 so he was well over his previous production. The average is : going down meaning the ISO OBP% is going down too, but he did thump a few : more doubles last season so there might be a little more power to come. : Assuming Victor Martinez & Jorge Posada can't catch anymore, is it too much : to say that Navarro might be the 2nd best catcher in the AL behind Joe Mauer? : Matt Wieters isn't up yet and Saltalamacchia hasn't established himself in : Texas yet either. It's a helluva positional advantage to have. Navarro實際上有個All-Star season,當然有部份是因為Posada,V-Mart受傷, Varitek退化嚴重。但是Navarro現在不只是個All-Star更是個有冠軍實力的捕手 接著說Navarro的進步..... 如果Posada, V-Mart不能再蹲捕 說Navarro是美連第二名的捕手會太超過嗎? 超級新人M.Wieters還沒上來 Salty在條子也還沒展示他在MiLB的實力 : 1B-Carlos Pena: 347/377/494; 31HR, 24-2B, 102RBI, 5.1AB/BB, 1SB, 127OPS+ : First half OPS was .778. Second half OPS was .978! Pena got off to a brutal : start but salvaged a season by becoming a monster in the 2nd half. When you : take a look at Pena's season, there isn't much difference in 2008 as there : was in 2007 as far as the peripheral stats go except for one category: HR/F : ratio. In 2007 when Pena went bezerk at the plate, 30% of his fly balls went : out of the yard. In 2008, only 19% did. What is troubling for Pena is that : from 2004-2006, his HR/F% were 18%, 17% & 18% respectively. In 2007 it was : 30% but in 2008 it was back to 19%. So what number looks like the outlier? : Even in his monster 2nd half, Pena only had a 22% HR/F ratio so even then it : wasn't back up to 30%. Remember too that 2007 was Pena's age-29 season. For : the most part, Pena is probably a .260-.270 hitter with serious power who has : incredible plate discipline. He's also a helluva defensive 1B. You can : certainly make the argument he's the best defensive 1B in the AL outside of : Lyle Overbay. If Pena can avoid a 1st half mess again, then he's easily a : .250-40-110 hitter in the middle of a very good lineup. Pena在08年上半季不理想OPS只有.778 但是下半季卻是.978!!! 接著說Pena飛球跟HR的比率 07年是誇張的30% 就算是08下半季那麼強也只有22% 所以Pena應該不可能回到那麼變態的07年成績 而且Pena有極佳的本壘板紀律(選球)還有很不錯的防守 能力應該只在Overbay之下 如果Pena開季不要那麼糟 應該會有 AVG.250 40HR 110RBI的成績 : 2B-Akinori Iwamura: 274/349/380; 6HR, 30-2B, 48RBI, 9.0AB:BB, 8SB, 92OPS+ : I know I'm only remembering Iwamura's play against the White Sox and : conveniently forgetting his performance against Boston & Philadelphia, but : wow did it seem like this kid came to dominate during the playoffs! In : reality, Iwamura is just an OK player. Offensively he's below average : although he does have some doubles power and pretty good strikezone : judgement. On the other hand, his OPS+ of 92 puts him below average : offensively. He's solid defensively at 2B, but he isn't tremendous either. He : strikes out a ton and doesn't make the best of baserunning plays. It's sort : of hard to figure. On the one hand when you watch him play he seems like a : sparkplug. On the other, his stats say he's not all that good. What's : interesting is that there is some semblance of a skill set here but for : whatever reason there is no real consolidation of skills. He is a foreign : import and maybe he needs a couple of years to adjust? I like what I see when : I watch him play but when you take that out of the equation....well.....it's : not that good. 岩村只是個OK player 進攻上大約低於平均 他有製造一些2B的power還有良好的好球帶 在2B的防守算流暢但非頂尖,三振太多 在跑壘上也沒太好 看他上場覺得他似乎是個領導份子,從另一方面來看又沒那麼好 總之沒那麼好 so so player : 3B-Evan Longoria: 272/343/531; 27HR, 31-2B, 85RBI, 9.7AB:BB, 7SB, 125OPS+ : Longoria finished as the AL Rookie of the Year and actually finished 11th in : the MVP voting. He's just 22 by the way! Let's get the defense out of the way : first. He's great. He'll be a contender for a gold glove at the hot corner : for years to come. His RZR (revised zone rating) was the best in the AL for : 3B with at least 1,000 innings played. It was tied with Scott Rolen so you : know Longoria can pick it at 3B. Offensively, it sound ridiculous but there : is room for the guy to get better. He struckout a little too much meaning his : contact rate could get better and will as he gets more selective at the : plate. As odd as it seems, lefties ate him up besides him being a : right-handed hitter. He didn't hit all that great at home which is odd : because hitters are usually creatures of habit and routine so being at home : should make Longoria more comfortable in the future. Longoria also had a : fairly awful September which sort of played its way into the playoffs. He did : well in the ALDS & ALCS but he hit a woeful .050/.050/.050 in the World : Series! I don't see how he's not the 2nd best 3B in the AL behind A-Rod at : this point and he might be closing fast. If he makes some adjustments, : Longoria could go .300-40-120 and if the Rays win the AL East again, you're : looking at the next AL MVP. 龍哥拿到了08年的新人王而且在MVP票選在第11位 他還只有22歲!!!! 在防守上很棒 應該會是以後金手套的熱門人選 他的RZR是全美聯最佳(超過1000局守備) 進攻上它還有許多空間可以進步,三振太多表示他的contact還有進步空間 而且選球也會更好,但是左投對他仍是個大威脅,在自家球場打的比較不好更是奇怪(XD) [作者隱涵龍哥成績↑↑↑ good!!!!] 九月打的很差(應該是受傷的原因) 而且在季後賽很不好 雖然ALDS ALCS OK 但是在WS 只有.050/.050/.050 Orz... 他是A-Rod之後得最佳3B 而且差距會越來越小 如果他有做些調整及進步 大概會有.300 40HR 120RBI !!!!! 而且如果光芒再次拿下美東冠軍 別意外龍哥會是MVP : SS-Jason Bartlett: 286/329/361; 1HR, 25-2B, 37RBI, 20.6AB:BB, 20SB, 82OPS+ : Defense is the name of his guy's game. The 20 steals is nice but a guy needs : to steal at a 75% success rate to help a team. Bartlett was caught 6 times : last season so his steal rate was just 77% so he's even teetering on being : not useful there. In all honestly, I'm not entirely sure what Tampa Bay gets : from Bartlett that it couldn't get from Ben Zobrist at SS? Sure Reid Brignac : looks like a bust at this point, but Zobrist actually had a better RZR than : Bartlett at defense with a lot more pop in his bat. Zobrist is also a : switch-hitter who can hit righties, something Bartlett struggles mightily to : do. The more I look it at the more I wonder why Bartlett is playing? He can't : do much with the bat and while his defense is pretty good, he's not Ozzie : Smith either. 防守很棒 但是不懂為何TB不用B.Zobrist來當SS Zobrist的RZR比Bartlett還好 而且更有power 還是switch hitter [最後用Ozzie Smith酸了Bartlett] : LF-Carl Crawford: 273/319/400; 8HR, 12-2B, 57RBI, 14.8AB:BB, 25SB, 87OPS+ : From 2002-2007, Crawford saw an increase in his OPS+ in every single year! : That's pretty amazing, but last season finger & hamstring problems held him : up and his OPS+ dropped to a terrible 87. Because of his injuries, his power : and speed were decimated and we get the batting line that you see above. I'm : not really sure what to think about Crawford. Because of his speed, he's a : pretty exciting player and he plays a TERRIFIC defensive LF. On the other : hand, you don't need great defense to play LF and that positon is usually : reserved for guys who hit a ton. Because of BJ Upton in CF, the Rays can get : away with having Crawford in LF, but he does have a pretty good skill set. : For the most part he's a 4-tool player with all the tools except power, but : then again because of his doubles and triples potential, he can slug in the : high-.400s. I'm kind of on the fence with Crawford because he seems more like : a fantasy player, but I'm warming up to him. He'll only be 27-years old so : he's just now hitting his prime years! That could get scary. 從02-07 Crawford的OPS+每年進步 但是今年只有87.... 去年手指跟大腿傷勢困惱著他 不用多說Crawford他進攻上利用速度 而且LF防守超好 但是不可能把它移防CF 因為CF是BJ Upton 他是個4 tools打者(缺少power) 但是因為速度可以製造許多2B和3B 讓他的SLG可以到.400 他才27歲 而且持續進步 : CF-B.J. Upton: 273/383/401; 9HR, 37-2B, 67RBI, 5.5AB:BB, 44SB, 107OPS+ : Shoulder injury was the reason Upton hit 24HR in 2007 but followed up with : just 9 in 2008. The problem is that he had surgery in November and now it : looks like he won't be playing on opening day for Tampa. Upton is just going : to be 24-years old and I really can't imagine what the Pirates think seeing : him blossom the way he has in Tampa Bay while Bryan Bullington sucks. Still, : 2009 might be a wash for Upton. If the shoulder stuff lingers then his power : might not be 100% once again in 2009 although in the 2008 post-season it : didn't seem to be hampered. Upton plays a good defensive CF and has plate : discipline to spare. He strikesout a TON although that did improve from 2007 : to 2008. Upton has all the skills to breakout and I don't think seeing him : with multiple 40-40 seasons is completley out of the question. If it wasn't : for the shoulder, he might be playing for the title as best player in the : game given his position, but it might have to wait a year before we see Upton : finally put it all together. 肩膀問題讓Upton 08年只敲出9HR 現在已經動完手術 我還是不懂為什麼Upton已經在TB開花結果而02年狀元郎Bryan Bullington still sucks [海盜真的很可憐 一直被鞭 明明作者前面就講到不是每個狀元簽都養的出來...] 最算肩膀開好刀Upton在09年還是不會恢復所有的power 防守極佳 雖然三振超級多但是仍有再進步 Upton有能力breakout[07年很強了還不算breakout....作者...]40-40對他不會是個問題 如果不是肩膀問題他早就是CF這個位子上的最佳球員 等待Upton的breakout : RF-Matt Joyce: 252/339/492; 12HR, 16-2B, 33RBI, 7.8AB:BB, 0SB, 116OPS+ : The Rays thought they didn't have a regular RF in Gabe Gross so used an extra : part, Edwin Jackson, to use as trade bait with the Tigers to land minor : league prospect Matt Joyce. Last season was Joyce's first taste of major : league pitching and he aquitted himself very nicely. The Rays are hoping : Joyce can be a lefty power bat. Known to have gap-to-gap power in the minor : leagues, Joyce really stepped up his game and provided power in Comerica : where power pretty much goes to die. Trading in Comerica for the Trop and : getting regular playing time could mean possibly 30HR for Joyce in a Rays : uniform. He's an outstanding defensive player giving the Rays the best : outfield defense in the major leagues potentially. Just 24-years of age : heading in 2009, Joyce has a couple of years of consolidation before he : enters his prime sesaons. By all accounts this was an incredible move on the : part of GM Andrew Friedman. 光芒不認為Gross會是RF的答案 所以交易來Joyce 希望Joyce可以帶來左打的power 因為Comerica Park容易吃掉power 所以預計Joyce可以在Trop打出30HR的實力 他才24歲 : DH-Pat Burrell: 250/367/507; 33HR, 33-2B, 86RBI, 5.3AB:BB, 0SB, 125OPS+ : Burrell's last 4 years of OPS+ have been 128, 122, 127 & 125. That's : consistency so you know what you are going to get from Burrell if you are a : Rays fan. Essentially the Rays are going to get 30HR, 100RBI, and an OPS+ of : 125. That makes Burrell the best DH the Rays have had in their history and : he's only been the DH for about 5-minutes. It actually works for Burrell too : because he may be the worst LF in baseball defensively. In a reversal of "If : You Can't Beat Them, Join Them", Burrell actually beat Tampa in the 2008 : World Series and now finds himself playing for them. I'm a huge fan of : exploiting the DH position because it's a market inefficiency that only : relies on a player's ability to hit without having to take his defense into : consideration. The Rays are doing just that with Burrell. Having him, Pena, : Longoria, Upton & Joyce in the lineup give Tampa 5 players with the potential : to hit 30HR each. The Rays ranked 4th last season in HR hit but with this : kind of arsenal, they may get even better! Burrell最近四年的OPS+是128, 122, 127和125 Burrell太適合打DH了 因為它幾乎是防守上最爛的LF "如果不能打敗他就加入他"正是光芒09年的寫照←簽下Burrell 加上Burrell TB將有五個球員有機會打30HR(Pena Longoria Upton Joyce) : 2009 RAYS BENCH : C-Shawn Riggans: 222/287/407; 6HR, 7-2B, 24RBI, 11.3AB:BB, 0SB, 80OPS+ : IF-Willy Aybar; 253/327/410; 10HR, 17-2B, 33RBI, 10.1AB:BB, 2SB, 92OPS+ : IF-Ben Zobrist: 253/339/505; 12HR, 10-2B, 30RBI, 7.9AB:BB, 3SB, 118OPS+ : OF-Gabe Kapler: 301/340/498; 8HR, 17-2B, 38RBI, 17.6AB:BB, 3SB, 117OPS+ : OF-Gabe Gross: 238/336/414; 13HR, 16-2B, 40RBI, 6.9AB:BB, 4SB, 96OPS+ : OF-Justin Riggiano: 197/247/329; 2HR, 4-2B, 7RBI, 19.0AB:BB, 2SB, 50OPS+ : Ruggiano is the one out of the group that most likely won't be a part of the : team when camp breaks. I like this bench to be honest. Aybar is a pretty good : utility infielder and I already think Zobrist should be the starting SS for : this team. The Rays did a pretty good job of going out and getting OF Gabe : Kapler to shore up the bench a bit. If BJ Upton isn't going to start the : season on time, the Rays could use Kapler in CF or slide Crawford over to CF : and slot Kapler in LF. Lefties tear Gross up, but he can hit righties really : well so he can be a pretty good platoon outfielder and pinch hitter off the : bench for the Rays. What's interesting about this bench too is the amount of : plate discipline it has. Except for Kapler, everyone who is likely to make : the bench for Tampa can draw a walk effectively. Heck, two players had OPS+ : numbers closing in on 12o (Zobrist & Kapler). Obviously you don't want to see : your starting players go down but Tampa Bay could probably weather a minor : injury or two. I'd like to see Zobrist get a chance. 在板凳方面,Ruggiano大概春訓時不會在名單之中。 老實說我對光芒的替補方面很滿意,Aybar是個很好的內野工具人,而Zobrist明年應該取 代Bartlett先發。 今年簽下Gabe Kapler是不錯的動作,假如Upton因傷不能趕上開季,還能夠有人補上CF ( 讓Kapler→ CF或Crawford→ CF Kapler→ LF) Gross雖然完全對付不了左投(2008 .191/.247/.338),但他對右投的良好表現讓他足夠 在外野輪值和代打要員佔一席位(.249/.356/.433) 光芒的板凳最棒的是他們的plate discipline。除了Kapler外幾乎每一個人都有選球眼 可以選到BB;而且其中有兩人(Zobrist & Kapler)的OPS+接近120,相對其他隊伍會為 傷兵而煩惱,閃光有足夠能力去承受一些小傷小痛。 : OVERALL IMPRESSION OF THE TAMPA BAY OFFENSE? : There is so much potential in this lineup. With Longoria, Pena, Joyce, Upton, : Crawford and Burrell, there is a muderers row of players! What is somewhat : interesting about the Rays is there 1-2 punch at the top of the order. If you : think the guys I just mentioned are more middle of the order guys, then you : are left with Navarro, Iwamura, and Bartlett as your 1-2-9 hitters. Having : Bartlett at #9 is a no-brainer, but who leads off for this team? I think : Crawford is more of a #6-#7 hitter and if you put Iwamura at #2 then where : does that leave the #1 place in the order? 毫無疑問 有龍哥 + Pena + Joyce + Upton + Crawford + Burrell簡直是殺人打線 在棒次的安排上,如果你同意上面提的幾個都是中心棒次,那就剩下Narvarro、 Aki和Bartlett要放到1、2、9棒了。無可置疑Bartlett會被放到第9棒,剩下的兩個, 首先我認為Crawford比較適合6 7棒,那麼假如放Aki作第二棒,那麼第一棒的人選 除了"他"還有別人嗎? : Last year Iwamura & Crawford went 1-2 in the lineup, but I don't know. I : don't mind Iwamura hitting 2nd but if there is anything missing with the Rays : it's a leadoff hitter really. This is certainly nitpicking and a lot of : people will tell you that lineup construction doesn't mean a whole lot, but : there is something here that doesn't make for a 100% optimal lineup in Tampa. : While the Yankees have Damon-Jeter and the Red Sox have Pedroia-Youkilis, the : Rays have Iwamura-Crawford and they could be better served other places in : the lineup in my opinon. Would hitting Upton leadoff be such a horrible idea? 昨年是Aki&Crawford做#1 & #2棒,我並不介意把Aki排第二,不過光芒真正需要的是個 leadoff hitter。有些人或許會反駁說棒次的影響沒很大,不過當洋基有大門-Peter、 Sox有Pedroia-Youkilis,而光芒是Aki-Crawford....我覺得比起把他們放一二棒還有 更適合的地方,那才是對打線最好的安排。 老實說,讓Upton打第一棒難道是這麼糟糕的提議嗎? : My guess is that Tampa goes: : Iwamura-Crawford-Upton-Pena-Longoria-Burrell-Joyce-Navarro-Bartlett which is : a very formidable lineup. I don't think we'll look back on 2009 if Tampa win : and blame the offense. It's primed and ready to go! 我猜明年打線會是 Aki-Crawford-Upton-Pena-Longoria-Burrell-Joyce-Navarro-Bartlett 這個將會是相當有實力的打線,能夠很有信心地給你保證,在2009年攻擊將不會是個問題 : 2009 RAYS STARTING ROTATION : #1-Scott Kazmir: 152.3IP, 7.3H/9, 9.8K/9, 2.4K:BB, 4.1BB/9, 1.4HR/9, : 1.267WHIP, 127ERA+ : A lefty with 92-mph gas who is just filthy. Kazmir has evolved into a 2-pitch : pitcher, working off his fastball and changeup with the occasional slide : piece thrown in to keep hitters honest. What is pretty amazing is how many : pitchers can walk 4+ per game and give up 1+ HR per game and still manage an : ERA+ of 127!? Kamzir is a legitimate ace with the skill set to contend for : the title of best pitcher in the game. Even though he did make it over 200IP : in 2007, elbow problems at the beginning of the year derailed his season : totals for 2008. It's interesting to note that Kazmir is going to be 25-years : old in 2009 while David Price will be 23. That's only 2-years difference yet : Kazmir has pitched 5 seasons already. Even with Price on the team, Kazmir has : by far and away the best stuff on the roster. The big problem is that he : simply can't cut down his pitches. If Kazmir could half his walk rate he'd be : almost superhuman on the mound. He's still so young so he could have a couple : of consolidation years left in him, but at some point you wonder when he's : going to put it all together. 能投到有92mph的左投絕對是犯規。Kaz的直球和Changeup和偶爾一用的滑球對打者而言 都是殺人的武器。更令人驚訝的是他雖然BB/9 = 4.1和HR/9 >1卻仍然投出127ERA+的好 成績,稱他為當今最好的投手之一絕對是當之無愧。和23歲新上場的Price比較, 25歲的Kaz已經在大聯盟投了5個seasons了,即使Price加入光芒的輪值,Kaz的stuff始於 是很明顯地較為突出。 要注意的是,雖然曾經在07年投了200+IP ,他的傷患在08年對他影響甚大,他最大的問題 還是壓不下用球數,如果能將BB/9壓到2以下他就是完美的超人了(按:這不是廢話嗎 = =) 他是還年輕還有時間讓他成長,不過你會不禁疑惑要到甚麼時候他才能長成完全體 : #2-James Shields: 215IP, 8.7H/9, 6.7K/9, 4.0K:BB, 1.7BB/9, 1.0HR/9, : 1.153WHIP, 125ERA+ : Shields put up almost a carbon copy of his 2007 season in 2008. You can't : really say Shields is a one-year wonder now that he's got two years under his : belt. Shields isn't overaly dominant. His average fastball is 90.4mph, but he : has a 4-pitch arsenal that he pulls the string on almost anytime he wants to. : He works mostly off a fastball, cutter, changeup trio but he'll show a : curveball every now and again. His control is pinpoint but he also has : stellar command to go along with it. He's thrown 215IP the last couple of : seasons and given this stuff/command, you'd have to at least put him into the : discussion as a #2 starter. Last season he started 33 games and threw 3,123 : pitches. That's 94-95 pitches per game or 14.5/IP. If he averaged 6.5IP/GS : then he could get at least 1-more inning's worth of work pushing his average : pitches/G up to 109-110. That's an extra 33IP on top of his 215 making it : 248IP per year for him. Could he handle that? I don't know but at some point : you take the reins off a pitcher who has established a workload the way : Shields has the last two seasons. If he pitches close to 250IP with 7K/9 and : 1.7BB/9 then you are looking at a borderline #1 starter. Shields在08年複製了他在07年的好成績,足以證明他不是個fluke。雖然還沒有 宰制聯盟,他的4種球種和平均90.4mpb的直球使他所向披糜,而且還有很好的Control (投進好球帶的能力)和有漂亮的command(想丟到的位置) 以他的stuff/command 和過去兩季都貢獻了215IP,身為球隊的#2 Starter他相當稱職 去年他先發了33場,總共投了3,123球,平均每場是94 95球(14.5/IP) 假使他能將Pitch per game拉到109-110,就能每年多吃33IP,一年248IP會否吃不消呢? 考慮到他過去兩季的工作量似乎也不是不可能。如果能吃250IP又能維持現在的BB/9 和K/9,那就是個#1 Starter的表現了 : #3-Matt Garza: 184.7IP, 8.3H/9, 6.2K/9, 2.2K:BB, 2.9BB/9, 0.9HR/9, 1.240WHIP, : 118ERA+ : Solid debut for Garza in his first time role of regular major league starter. : I don't care what Twins Nation says, they got hosed on the Matt Garza for : Delmon Young deal. Plain and simple. I've read reports where Garza made : adjustments in 2008 that favored a little more control rather than striking : people out so if you are wondering why that K/9 isn't as high as his minor : league numbers would indicate, there is your answer. Garza did make some : adjustments back to strikeouts though. In his first 8 starts of 2008, Garza : fanned only 3.9 hitters per 9IP. In his last 22 starts, he upped that rate to : 7.0/9IP! He had a nerve problem that forced him to miss 3 starts, but you : can't really argue with the numbers here. If his last 22 starts are any guide : and if he keeps getting better with a more consistent feel for his pitches, : why couldn't he push that K/9 up to 7.5-7.8? This guy looks all the way solid : to me! Garza大聯盟的首季先發很棒,不管Twins怎麼說這次交易絕對是我們得利了。有報導說 Garza今年"降K求控球",所以三振/9沒小聯盟時這麼高還可以接受。不過他也有一直在 調整,在季初8次先發他的K/9只有3.9,而在之後的22場則躍升至7.0! 他的手腕問題令 他錯過了3場先發,不過並不影響這所有的數據都證明他是個好投手。 依他的後22場的成績預測,明年很可能可以把K/9升到7.5-7.8。總之他是個很棒的先發! : #4-Andy Sonnanstine: 193.3IP, 9.9H/9, 5.8K/9, 3.4K:BB, 1.7BB/9, 1.0HR/9, : 1.288WHIP, 102ERA+ : Sonnanstine is actually a pretty sweet pitcher when you look at his skill : set. He's got great command and doesn't give up many bombs, but he doesn't : strike a ton of hitters out so the upside is limited. That H/9IP would look : better but his BABIP was .312 which was above league average. The big problem : is that Sonnanstine is relying completely on his guile. His average fastball : sat at 87mph last season, which coming from a righty is well below average. : He throws up to 5 pitches for strikes, but I don't know. A few more : strikeouts, a few more groundballs and who know what can happen? With Price : in the mix, Sonnanstine is nothing more than a #4-#5 starter, but when you : can get 200IP out of guy that is going to keep you in games because he : doesn't walk anyone then that's a great asset to have in your rotation. : Sonnanstine will only be 26-years old this season so there is certainly time. 老實說Andy不是個很好的投手,控球不錯 HR/9也還好,不過低三振率表示他的高點也 不會很高。明年H/9會稍微改善但那是因為有點過高的Babip,問題在於他是個軟投派的 投手,平均速度只有87mph的直球遠遠低於聯盟,所以能倚靠的僅僅只有巧妙的配球。 好壞球比也不漂亮…好吧,如果能多投點三振,多一點滾地球或許能嚇你一跳也不一定。 有Price在輪值,Andy充其量是個4、5號先發,不過隊上有個四壞率低又能吃200IP的 先發也不壞。今季他只有26歲,ya He still has time. : #5-David Price: 14IP, 5.8H/9, 7.7K/9, 3.0K:BB, 2.6BB/9, 0.6HR/9, 0.929WHIP, : 230ERA+ : Here comes the ringer! Before we get ga-ga over those numbers, remember that : Price's BABIP in those 14IP was a ridiculous .225. Price works off a : fastball-slider-changeup arsenal although he barely used his change in the : majors last season. He pumps his fastball at 94-95mph as a lefty and in : reality it might only be a matter of time before he is the #1 starter, : relegating Scott Kazmir to #2 status. It's a good problem to have if you are : Tampa Bay. There really isn't a knock on Price at this point. He's a good kid : from Vanderbilt with tremendous makeup. He blew through the SEC and he blew : through the minor leagues on his way to Tampa Bay. He's a 6-6 lefty who : throws in the mid-90s with great control of all his pitches. Price even : pitched in the ALCS and World Series where he did a great job. He had a rough : spot in Game 2 of the World Series but the Rays were up 4-0 in that game and : the 2 runs Price gave up were inconsequential. In postseason play he allowed : just 2 hits and struckout 8 batters in 5.7IP! The only real knock for this : guy is going to be his durability and health. He only threw about 130IP last : season and 110 of those were in the minor leagues. Expecting 30+ starts from : him and 180-200IP might be too much too soon for the guy. 數據很不錯,不過既是小樣本(14IP)又是超低的babip(.225),所以看看就好。他投三 種球種: fastball-slider-changeup,但control不好的changeup在mlb幾乎沒用到。 左 投有94-95mph的fastball(按:先發時是90-94)代表假如時日注定會把Kaz擠到#2的位置 ,但對真正的光芒迷來說將是快樂的煩惱。 身高6-6左投加上精準的mid-90s fastball,這個Vanderbilt來的天才小子沒甚麼真正的 問題,在大學、小聯盟甚至WS都有不錯的表現。唯一缺點是他的健康和耐力都需要注意 : 去年包括在小聯盟投的110IP總共只投了130IP(按:他07年沒趕上球季,所以在職棒就只有 這一年 ),假如今年就期望看到他30+先發和180-200IP也許是太過夢想了。 : SP-Jason Hammel: 78.3IP, 9.5H/9, 5.1K/9, 1.3K:BB, 4.0BB/9, 1.3HR/9, : 1.506WHIP, 97ERA+ : SP-Jeff Niemann: 16IP, 10.1H/9, 7.9K/9, 1.8K:BB, 4.5BB/9, 1.7HR/9, 1.625WHIP, : 88ERA+ : OVERALL IMPRESSION OF THE RAYS ROTATION? : It's simply another dominating starting rotation in the AL East. The one : thing that bothers me just a bit is that the Rays really don't have a #1 : starter. Kazmir is certainly a #1 starter in "stuff", but his durability is : always going to be a factor it seems. If he can go 200+IP then this argument : becomes a non-issue but if there is a knock on this rotation, it's that they : don't have a real stopper at the top. They have some candidates in Kazmir, : Price and even Garza; all have the goods to be a #1, but I think Garza & : Price are still a bit too young and Kazmir dealt with injury problems yet : again. 就很棒的先發輪值~ 唯一缺憾是缺少了一個真正的#1 starter, Kaz有#1的stuff但缺少 #1 的吃局數能力。除非Kaz今年能吃200+IP證明並不是那回事,否則光芒少了一張王牌始 終是事實。Kaz、Price甚至Garza都有能力做#1,但可惜前一個有傷而後兩個又有點太年 輕了。 : Best case is that this rotation dominates because it simply has too much : talent not too. Worst case is that Kazmir has injury issues and Price goes : about 120IP. That would be tough because you'd have a lot of the : responsibilities thrust upon Shields, Sonnanstine and Garza with a couple of : fill ins. I'm not sure Hammel & Niemann are going to be great and Wade Davis : and Jake McGee probably aren't ready just yet. 明年的Best case是先發們實實在在地宰制美東;而worst case是Kaz受傷痛影響而Price 只吃了大約120IP,那樣的話會為剩下的Shields、Andy、Garza和替補帶來很大的壓力。 後備的Hammel和Niemann會投成怎樣還不確定,而 Wade Davis和Jake McGee看起來則是還 未準備好。 : Another factor to consider is : how much better the rest of the AL East got in relation to Tampa Bay. The : Yankees got CC Sabathia & AJ Burnett and also get a healthy Chien-Ming Wang : back in 2009 with Joba Chamberlain at least starting the season healthy. : Those are 4 starters the Rays didn't have to compete with last season. The : Red Sox signed Brad Penny & John Smoltz while also having Clay Buchholz & : Michael Bowden waiting to make an impact. Those are 4 pitchers Tampa didn't : face last season either. : Don't get me wrong. This is a great rotation to have, but there are some : questions marks that should possibly be concerning for the Rays down the : road. If this was any other division in baseball, it wouldn't really matter, : but because Tampa plays in the same division as the Yankees & Red Sox, it : changes things dramatically when trying to stay and keep being competitive. 另一個因素的是美東其他勁旅,洋基季後簽下的CC & AJ Burnett 還有健康的Wang + Joba,紅襪方面的Penny & Smoltz加上八扣子和Michael Bowden, 全部是都是小魚昨年沒有對上的投手。光芒的輪值的確是很好,和其他分區比較也是 首屈一指,可是當身在美東軍火庫, 即使一點點小問題都可能會造成很大影響。 : 2009 RAYS BULLPEN : CL-Troy Percival: 45.7IP, 5.7H/9, 7.5K/9, 1.4K:BB, 5.3BB/9, 1.8HR/9, : 1.226WHIP, 98ERA+ : RP-Dan Wheeler: 66.3IP, 6.0H/9, 7.2K/9, 2.4K:BB, 3.0BB/9, 1.4HR/9, 0.995WHIP, : 142ERA+ : LP-J.P. Howell: 89.3IP, 6.2H/9, 9.3K/9, 2.4K:BB, 3.9BB/9, 0.6HR/9, 1.131WHIP, : 200ERA+ : RP-Grant Balfour: 58.3IP, 4.3H/9, 12.7K/9, 3.4K:BB, 3.7BB/9, 0.5HR/9, : 0.891WHIP, 288ERA+ : RP-Chad Bradford: 59.3IP, 9.0H/9, 2.6K/9, 1.1K:BB, 2.3BB/9, 0.5HR/9, : 1.247WHIP, 212ERA+ : RP-Joe Nelson: 54IP, 7.0H/9, 10.0K/9, 2.7K:BB, 3.7BB/9, 0.8HR/9, 1.185WHIP, : 213ERA+ : RP-Juan Salas: 6.3IP, 7.1H/9, 11.4K/9, 2.0K:BB, 5.7BB/9, 0.0HR/9, 1.421WHIP, : 63ERA+ : RP-Lance Cormier: 71.7IP, 9.8H/9, 5.8K/9, 1.4K:BB, 4.3BB/9, 0.5HR/9, : 1.563WHIP, 113ERA+ : LP-Brian Shouse: 51.3IP, 8.1H/9, 5.8K/9, 2.4K:BB, 2.5BB/9, 0.9HR/9, : 1.169WHIP, 153ERA+ : According to The Hardball Times's WPA (Wins Probability Added), the Rays had : the best bullpen in the majors last season. They bring back the same pen : although they've added guys like Joe Nelson, Lance Cormier and Brian Shouse : to the mix. All are good pick-ups but it creates a log jam in the pen. The : closer, Troy Percival, is the worst reliever on the team! How can a guy who : gives up 2 bombs per 9IP and walks 5 per 9IP hold down a closer's job? It : would seem putting in Percival is pouring gas on an already raging fire! 根據TBT的WPA,去年小魚有著全聯盟最好的牛棚。新一季除了去年的原班人馬外,還簽下 了Joe Nelson、Lance Cormier、Brian Shouse,令本來已經一流的牛棚更爆炸了 (按:能 用的已經有13人了)。本來的Closer Troy Percival看成績反而是最糟糕的後援 囧 找一個每9局5BB 2HR的投手頂closer似乎不是很明智的決定。 : When you think about the pen, you know that Howell, Bradford, Balfour, : Wheeler and Nelson are automatic. That leaves only 2 spots. One is going to : Percival when he's healthy because he's the closer leaving only one which I'm : guessing goes to Shouse because he's left handed and JP Howell owns both : righties and lefties. That leaves both Salas and Cormier out in the cold but : it also doesn't allow room for a guy like Jason Hammel or Jeff Niemann to be : a long man out of the pen in preparation for spot starts when the Rays will : need them. 在開季的25人名單, 沒人質疑Howell, Bradford, Balfour, Wheeler, Nelson 5人將會是我們主力的RP群, Closer Percy有機會留下,牛棚最後一個位子可能會給左投Shouse; 這代表沒進的人有 Salas、Cormier,也沒有機會讓能替補先發的Hammel和Niemann準備。 (按: 兩位替補先發都out of options了,能過waivers的機會看起來不大) : Even so this is a NASTY pen. Howell & Balfour and downright FILTHY. Wheeler & : Nelson are very solid if not as brutal on opposing hitters as Balfour & : Howell. That leaves Chad Bradford who is effective in his own right along : with LOOGY Brian Shouse. The closer's spot is Percival's but in all reality : the big guy is going to be on the DL a bit so the closer's role probably : falls to Dan Wheeler in that instance. Wheeler had 13 saves last season in : Percival's absence. 儘管如此這仍然是一個超強力的牛棚。有超強力的Howell 和 Balfour,還有相當有實力 的Wheeler和Nelson,一人左Shouse和潛水艇Bradford,Closer暫時仍然是容易受傷的 Percy,進DL後大概會交給Wheeler關門。 : This is a great bullpen. The log jam creates quite a bit of depth with : Cormier, Salas and Hammel ready to step in when needed. Still, I don't see : how this pen doesn't shorten games to at least 6IP or even possibly 5IP to be : honest. There isn't a weak link except for Percival and if the game is on the : line I don't mind putting anyone in there except for maybe Shouse becasue if : the game is on the line with a lefty up, I'd rather have JP Howell facing : them down than Shouse. That's 6 pitchers you can put into high leverage : situations at any time. Good grief that's awesome! 牛棚爆炸令深度大增,想憑這群RP在6局甚至5局就凍結比賽也不是不可能。除了Percy有 點抖,每一位投手都能獨當一面,關鍵的時候隨便推哪個出來也沒所謂。except for Shouse, 即使接下來全都是左打,我覺得讓J.P. Howell上也比Shouse安心。有6個強 力後援在,沒在怕啦 : OVERALL PROJECTION FOR THE 2009 RAYS : The AL East is simply going to be a blood bath. I can't believe I'm saying : this but I'm predicting that the Rays will finish in 3rd place in the AL East : for 2009. That they'll win 90-games in my opinion is a no-brainer. Hell, if : they won 93-94 games it still might only be good enough for 3rd place in the : East. I think the Rays will score runs and I think they'll do a great job at : preventing runs, but so goes for the Yankees & Red Sox too. One thing that : really helped Tampa along in 2008 was New York being horribly down and the : Red Sox running into some bad luck without having Josh Beckett healthy for : almost the entire season. At this point both New York & Boston look ready to : go and Tampa won't have that ace up their sleeve in 2009. They'll be an : excellent baseball team and in reality right now they probably are one of the : top-5 teams in the majors, but the problem is that 2 other teams in that : top-5 play in the same division as Tampa Bay! Third place! Wow. 美東戰區會有一番血戰是肯定的了,說出來或許會被打,不過大概Rays會拿90勝以上而最 後名列第三吧,老實說在美東拿93-94可能也只能第三。Rays在得分和防守會表現很好, 不過洋基紅襪也不是蓋的。08年小魚傳奇是靠著天時地利人和,09年要應付兩隊的完整陣 容,又少了一個王牌壓場,長成的小魚明年大概會是聯盟Top 5 teams的其中一隊吧, 只是…………………全MLB前五強有前三強在美東 囧 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.229.161.104

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02/05 23:41, 1F

02/06 08:28, , 2F
想請問 單論stuff kaz跟 price 是誰評價高阿?
02/06 08:28, 2F

02/06 08:28, , 3F
感覺 文中是說kaz高 但是未來一號是price...
02/06 08:28, 3F

02/06 08:36, , 4F
KAZ已經在MLB生存5年了 自然STUFF會有一定的水準
02/06 08:36, 4F

02/06 08:37, , 5F
而PRICE本來可以在07年上MLB卻因傷才在08年上來
02/06 08:37, 5F

02/06 08:37, , 6F
如果單比STUFF的話 KAZ應該是比PRICE好 他們的球種
02/06 08:37, 6F

02/06 08:38, , 7F
好像差不多 作者會說PRICE可能是未來的ACE 可能是
02/06 08:38, 7F

02/06 08:39, , 8F
看中他的未來性吧 畢竟第一年上去就能在ALCS GAME7
02/06 08:39, 8F

02/06 08:39, , 9F
當CLOSER也太威了點XD 有人是說MADDON敢用敢賭 不過
02/06 08:39, 9F

02/06 08:40, , 10F
那也是要投手本身要有一定的水準 狀況也要好才能用
02/06 08:40, 10F

02/06 08:41, , 11F
不過我是覺得一個隊伍1號投手資質當然是多多益善啦XD
02/06 08:41, 11F

02/06 08:41, , 12F
這也算是投手的良性競爭
02/06 08:41, 12F

02/06 09:57, , 13F
我的看法跟k大不同 比stuff Price>Kazmir
02/06 09:57, 13F

02/06 09:58, , 14F
這也是為什麼許多人會認為Price會是未來的ACE而不是
02/06 09:58, 14F

02/06 09:59, , 15F
現在的Kazmir 這代表Price的ceiling高過Kazmir
02/06 09:59, 15F

02/06 10:00, , 16F
但是有talent不一定可以完全轉換 看看洋基簽的AJB
02/06 10:00, 16F

02/06 10:00, , 17F
到目前為止還沒有把他的stuff完全轉換 目前是2-3號
02/06 10:00, 17F

02/06 10:02, , 18F
反觀Beckett已經將stuff轉換成實力 現在是ACE拉
02/06 10:02, 18F

02/06 10:03, , 19F
Price能擠下Kaz當ACE是最好拉XXD 代表我們養成大成功
02/06 10:03, 19F

02/06 14:15, , 20F
看stuff的話 Price的球速明顯高於Kazmir 滑球也不錯
02/06 14:15, 20F

02/06 14:17, , 21F
所以Price的stuff主要靠球速贏過Kazmir
02/06 14:17, 21F

02/06 14:17, , 22F
滑球的話 Kazmir和Price的都很好 不過我覺得Kazmir的
02/06 14:17, 22F

02/06 14:18, , 23F
目前比較殺一點 但是控球比較差 Kazmir的變速目前也
02/06 14:18, 23F

02/06 14:18, , 24F
比Price好 但Price的變速能練起來 整體表現就很可能
02/06 14:18, 24F

02/06 14:18, , 25F
追上Kazmir 加上他的控球 能超過Kazmir
02/06 14:18, 25F

02/06 14:19, , 26F
但是Kazmir也還沒完全轉換 他的控球還是有進步空間
02/06 14:19, 26F

02/06 21:19, , 27F
可以參考MLB版16901,tht分析Price的文章
02/06 21:19, 27F

02/06 21:22, , 28F
目前Price贏Kaz的只有速球,去年成績k/9 bb/9 kaz大勝
02/06 21:22, 28F

02/06 21:24, , 29F
認為Price是未來ace是因為kaz控球大概無法進步成ace
02/06 21:24, 29F

02/06 21:27, , 30F
等級了,而Price藉著頂尖速球,和身材優勢,球探很愛這
02/06 21:27, 30F

02/06 21:29, , 31F
型,但別忘了kaz也只大price一歲,控球能進步的話
02/06 21:29, 31F

02/06 21:32, , 32F
憑著比price優很多的k功,會是美東強權的夢靨XD
02/06 21:32, 32F

02/06 21:36, , 33F
今年Price就期待轉先發的表現,和看變化球有沒進步吧
02/06 21:36, 33F
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