[閒聊] 道奇交易Shields的可能提案
外傳科科提很愛我們家的神盾
對於這樣的傳聞 Rays colored glasses提出可能的交易包裹
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文章很長就不細翻
先說結論好嚕
Tampa Bay Rays trade RHP James Shields, INF Reid Brignac, and RHP Jason
McEachern to the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for LHP Chris Reed, OF Joc
Pederson, C Tim Federowicz, UTIL Alex Castellanos, and OF/1B Scott Van Slyke.
以下簡單交代交易的新秀
Federowicz可以補充TB所欠缺的捕手新秀且完成度很高
Federowicz, who turned 25 in August, is coming off a great offensive year at
Triple-A in 2012, albeit in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League, posting
a .294/.371/.461 line with 34 doubles, 11 homers, 76 RBI, and 91 strikeouts
versus 52 walks in 115 games and 475 plate appearances, and he also posted a
39% caught stealing rate defensively with just 3 passed balls. Federowicz
stands out most for his defense, where he’s an excellent receiver (something
that the Rays have shown themselves to value especially much as they keep
Jose Molina on the roster) to go along with smooth actions defensively and a
good arm, and he has a chance to be a solid offensive catcher, hitting for a
solid average with a little power and a pretty good on-base percentage.
Federowicz is certainly not the most impressive catching prospect out there,
but he’s better than anything the Rays have right now, a group that consists
of Molina, Jose Lobaton, Robinson Chirinos, and Chris Giminez, and could
compete for a big league job alongside Molina immediately. Federowicz can’t
be the headline piece in a deal like this, but he’s definitely a player the
Rays could be interested in.
Castellanos是一個有砲瓦的工具人,也接近完成
Alex Castellanos fits that mold and could be a player the Rays
could use immediately to help improve their situations in the outfield and at
second base. Castellanos, another older prospect having turned 26 in August,
had an enormous season at Triple-A in 2012, posting a .328/.420/.590 line
with 25 doubles, 7 triples,17 homers, 52 RBI, 16 of 24 stolen bases, and 85
strikeouts against 46 walks in 94 games in 407 plate appearances while
playing second base, third base, and both corner outfield positions.
Castellanos won’t be nearly that good in the big leagues, but he shows a
nice power-speed combination with the bat speed and patience to hit for a
solid average and OBP. Castellanos is expendable for the Dodgers thanks to
their crowded situation in the outfield and the presence of Elian Herrera.
Castellanos is a very similar in just about every possible way to a player
the Rays already have, Brandon Guyer, with both being older prospects and
right-handed hitters that have piqued interest with their power-speed
combinations, but Castellanos adds in the wrinkle that he can play the
infield. And with both Guyer and Castellanos lacking significant big league
experience, the Rays could double their odds of getting at least one capable
player by having both of them in the fold. Castellanos also looks to be a
better all-around player than the utility types the Rays have around right
now, although he can’t handle shortstop. Castellanos is once again not the
most exciting prospect, but he’s another player it could make sense for the
Rays to target as a secondary piece in a potential trade.
Van Slyke可以捕強TB的1B/OF位置的深度,也是接近完成的新秀
One last possible need-filling piece the Rays could acquire from the Dodgers
without eliciting much of a quibble could be outfielder/first baseman Scott
Van Slyke. Van Slyke, who turned 26 in July, was another player at Triple-A
for the Dodgers who had a huge year, posting a .327/.404/.578 line with 34
doubles, 18 homers, 67 RBI, and 64 strikeouts versus 46 walks in 95 games and
411 plate appearances. Van Slyke, the son of 3-time All-Star Andy Van Slyke,
features the power to potentially hit 30 home runs in the big leagues from a
short stroke although patience and pitch recognition have been issues for him
in the past. Van Slyke has played both corner outfield spots in addition to
first base in the past but has struggled defensively wherever he has gone and
he’s going to have to hit quite a bit to stick in the major leagues. With
Adrian Gonzalez signed long-term at first base and a crowded situation in the
outfield, Van Slyke doesn’t look to crack the Dodgers’ starting lineup
anytime soon, but the Rays could offer him at-bats at first base and
designated hitter immediately. Van Slyke can’t be any worse than Carlos Pena
and Luke Scott were for the Rays in 2012, and he has the ability to be a
solid hitter in the middle of the Rays lineup if everything goes well.
There you have three players that the Dodgers have that could compete for
roster spots on the Rays immediately and represent improvements over what the
Rays currently have on their roster, and the Dodgers would not hesitate even
a second to part with them to acquire Shields. But the critical part of this
trade will be the prospects with the potential to make the Rays a better team
in the long-term even as they move on without the most dependable starter in
their history in Shields.
一個很有潛力的外野新秀Joc Pederson
One Dodgers prospect that could really intrigue the Rays could be 20 year old
outfielder Joc Pederson. Pederson is coming off a great year at High-A for
the Dodgers, posting a .313/.396/.516 line with 24 doubles, 18 homers, 70
RBI, 26 of 40 stolen bases, and 81 strikeouts versus 51 walks in 110 games
and 499 plate appearances. Defensively, he played primarily centerfielder and
posted 9 outfield assists. Pederson shows five average or better tools,
featuring great bat speed from a short stroke with an all-fields approach and
solid power, and he’s an above-average runner with good instincts on the
basepaths and in the outfield to go along with a good arm, although he may
fit best in left or right field as opposed to center moving forward. Pederson
has a chance to hit for a nice average in the major leagues to go along with
20 homers and 25 steals and good outfield defense. Pederson still has to work
on hitting the ball with a little more authority in order to avoid becoming a
tweener, a corner outfielder who lacks the power to profile there, but he has
a chance to be an excellent big league player, and he’ll be just 21 years
old as he heads to Double-A in 2013. Why would the Dodgers be willing to
trade Pederson? Once again, the reason is because of their extremely crowded
picture in the outfield moving forward. Pederson has the talent the Rays want
and is expendable enough for the Dodgers that he could be a central piece of
a Shields trade.
最後挑一個可能可以交易的投手新秀Chris Reed
And this trade has to finish with a pitching prospect- the Rays aren’t going
to trade Shields and not recoup at least a little of their pitching depth in
return. With the Dodgers’ top pitching prospect, Zach Lee, likely
untouchable, and several of the Dodgers’ top pitching prospects either
struggling in 2012 or getting traded away, the best option for the Dodgers to
trade might be their 2011 first round pick Chris Reed. Reed, 22, tossed just
70.1 innings in 2012 while dealing with a shoulder injury, although a lot of
that was precautionary, and he pitched pretty well when he was on the mound,
going just 1-8 but with a 3.97 ERA, an 8.6 K/9, a 4.4 BB/9, and a 0.4 HR/9 in
17 starts and 2 relief appearances between High-A and Double-A. Reed throws a
four-seam fastball that reaches the high-90′s but works primarily with a
low-90′s two-seamer that he commands well down in the zone but struggled to
control in 2012. He also throws a slider that shows flashes but was
ineffective for Reed for much of 2012 to go along with a changeup that hasn’t
progressed as much as Reed and the Dodgers would like. Reed has
considerable potential but other than the problems with his pitches,
particularly his fastball control, the movement on his slider, and his
changeup, a major concern for Reed moving forward is durability- he hasn’t
thrown a 100-inning season in his life, working as a reliever at Stanford and
being limited because of his shoulder this season. He has the stuff to start
but may end up in a relief role if he can’t build up the stamina to start.
Reed is a player that would be tough for the Dodgers to part with, but there
is certainly risk involved with him and the Dodgers may be willing to let him
go to make this Shields trade materialize.
就是盡可能拿有砲瓦的選手來補充TB所缺少的那一塊
不過這樣40人名單競爭也會更激烈
不過對方3A是打者天堂的聯盟 數據就加減欣賞
科科提要有誠意才會感動安豬 Shields也不是不可交易
有Zach Lee更好(幻想) 提供大家討論看看
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Shields好歹在美東也是穩定輸出的投手
科科提認為道奇缺少一個穩定的工作馬(連續6年都200IP以上)
不覺得他有缺少多少經驗就是 而且也有豐富的季後賽經驗
尤其他們的先發群有不少有傷病疑慮
而且Shields的合約比黑田更低 明年10.25M
後年還有選擇權 最多12M 買斷1M
而且還可以有再開QO賺補償新秀的可能
也不用損失到第一輪選秀
另外上面這些新秀 有的位置也有被道奇長約的打者檔死
是否能成為適應mlb的打者也還言之過早 Ex:交易到紅襪的Sands
總之只是一種討論如果要換的可能提案而已
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有點誤會所以我刪除那補充好嚕 其他是我的一點意見
當然在TB一直說Shields多好也難免自誇 提供一點意見作為參考
基本上主要是回應之前有人在關心道奇所能提供的農場新秀
至於這個交易是否合理 就看道奇科科提自己的想法
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