[外電] 那些年,我們沒有追到的那些新秀...

看板Rays作者 (光芒今年拿冠軍)時間9年前 (2016/06/07 01:02), 9年前編輯推噓11(1104)
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Drafting high school and college kids and projecting how they will handle the increased level of competition, mental and physical challenges and rugged schedule of pro ball is obviously hard. 2006 Took Pick WAR 3B Evan Longoria 3 43.9 Could've taken LHP Clayton Kershaw 7 Dodgers 52.3 RHP Tim Lincecum 10 Giants 22.7 RHP Max Scherzer 11 D'backs 33.0 History lesson: Rays made the right call in getting a franchise cornerstone position player who got to the majors quickly. Teams with regret should be Royals, who took RHP Luke Hochevar No. 1, and Rockies, RHP Greg Reynolds No. 2. 光芒在這一年作出了正確的選擇,選到了重要的基石Evan Longoria 這一年應該要後悔的是皇家用狀元籤選Luke Hochevar洛磯用榜眼籤選 Greg Reynolds。 2007 Took Pick WAR LHP David Price 1 29.1 Could've taken C Matt Wieters 5 Orioles 15.3 LHP Madison Bumgarner 10 Giants 25.7 OF Jason Heyward 14 Braves 31.9 History lesson: Though Wieters had some appeal, Price was the obvious choice for the 1-1 pick and proved to be everything — postseason record aside — Rays could have wanted as a Cy Young winner and team leader. Lingering question will be if they got enough back in trade in LHP Drew Smyly, INF Nick Franklin, INF prospect Willy Adames. 雖然Wieters也有不錯的表現,但是Price也用他的表現(除了季後賽)證明了他值得 用狀元籤來選他,所以唯一的問題就是用Price換Smyly+Franklin+Adams會回本嗎? 2008 Took Pick WAR SS Tim Beckham 1 0.2 Could've taken 3B Pedro Alvarez 2 Pirates 4.8 1B Eric Hosmer 3 Royals 10.4 C Buster Posey 5 Giants 30.1 History lesson: The decision to pass on Posey is, and may forever be, one of the biggest blunders in franchise history and is exacerbated by Beckham's lack of success to be more than a fringe player. Though Hosmer has been really good, the Pirates, Royals and Orioles (taking LHP Brian Matusz fourth) should also be scolded. 放掉Posey可能是光芒選秀史上最大的失誤,沒有之一,而且用狀元籤選來的Beckham 成績遭到像一個大聯盟的邊緣人,雖然Hosmer打得不錯,但是海盜皇家和金鶯也應該 會為這個結果感到後悔。 2009 Took Pick WAR INF LeVon Washington 30 NA Could've taken RHP Garrett Richards 42 Angels 5.9 3B Nolan Arenado 59 Rockies 16.3 CF Jason Kipnis 63 Indians 16.0 History lesson: The price of their 2008 success was dropping to the bottom of the first round, and it proved problematic. Drafting Washington was a bad move, though not signing him may have been wise as he went to the Indians in 2010 and hasn't yet made it above Class A. Arenado would've been a pretty good option. 2008球季大成功的代價就是拿到第一輪的最後一個順位,選擇Washington是個錯誤 ,雖然沒簽下可能是個正確的選擇,因為他在隔年和印地安人簽約,最高只到A。 Arenado會是一個很棒的選擇。 2010 Took Pick WAR OF Josh Sale 17 NA C Justin O'Conner 31 NA Could've taken OF Christian Yelich 23 Marlins 10.3 RHP Aaron Sanchez 34 Blue Jays 4.8 RHP Noah Syndergaard 38 Blue Jays 5.3 History lesson: The miss on Sale is underrated on Rays' list of bad decisions as he never got above Class A and had multiple discipline issues leading to his release. O'Conner, who hasn't gotten past Double A, is sidelined again with injuries. In what didn't turn out to be much of a draft class overall, their only real prize was CF Kevin Kiermaier, in round 31. 在討論道光芒失敗的選秀時,Sale這個錯誤一直被乎略,但是他生涯只到A,而且 有很多的問題。O'Conner還沒跨越2A就再度受傷了,他還沒展現出他的價值,這年 最大的收穫是在第31輪選進的Kevin Kiermaier。 2011 Took Pick WAR RHP Taylor Guerrieri 24 NA OF Mikie Mahtook 31 0.6 SS Jake Hager 32 NA Could've taken RHP Joe Ross 25 Padres 3.4 INF Joe Panik 29 Giants 5.0 OF Jackie Bradley Jr. 40 Red Sox 5.2 History lesson: This was the draft, with the Rays having 10 of the first 60 picks due to free agent compensation, that was supposed to set them up for years. Results thus far have not been great, though improving. Mahtook is in the majors, LHP Blake Snell (52nd pick) debuted and will be back, OF Tyler Goeddel (41st) was a Rule 5 pick and playing for the Phillies, Guerreri is a prospect though with a Tommy John-repaired elbow, as is Hager, who had knee issues. Taylor Motter was a 17th-round surprise. 這年光芒透過自由球員補償在前60順位有十支籤,照理說要來個大進補,但是 目前看來是個大悲劇。Mahtook已經在大聯盟,Snell(52順位)已經Debut而且 即將再度回到大聯盟,Goeddel(41順位)規則五被費城撿走,Guerreri剛開完TJ, Hager則是有膝蓋的問題,Motter是個17輪的小驚奇。 2012 Took Pick WAR INF Richie Shaffer 25 0.1 Could've taken 3B Stephen Piscotty 36 Cardinals 3.5 3B Joey Gallo 39 Rangers 0.4 RHP Lance McCullers 41 Astros 2.5 History lesson: Shaffer has been a hit at Triple A but not yet in limited big-league opportunity, and, with Longoria at third, was blocked by offseason additions of Logan Morrison and Steve Pearce. Shaffer在3A打得不錯但是上大聯盟的機會不多,因為Longoria在三壘,一壘 則有Morrison跟Pearce。 2013 Took Pick WAR C Nick Ciuffo 21 NA RHP Ryne Stanek 29 NA Could've taken OF Billy McKinney 24 A's NA OF Aaron Judge 32 Yankees NA LHP Sean Manaea 34 Royals NA History lesson: Still searching for a frontline catcher, Ciuffo, as a high school pick, will require patience as he is still at Class A, hitting .289 with little power. Stanek has had injuries and is struggling this season at Double A. 仍然在尋找一個未來的主戰捕手,Ciuffo是個高中生需要給他一些耐心, 目前在A打擊率.289有一點點的長打能力,Stanek目前受傷而且在2A掙扎中。 2014 Took 1B Casey Gillaspie 20 NA Could've had RHP Grant Holmes 22 Dodgers NA RHP Luis Ortiz 30 Rangers NA 1B A.J. Reed 42 Astros NA History lesson: Gillaspie has shown power in minors, though lost half of 2015 season to injury and struggled in Arizona Fall League. Good 2016 start at Double A, hitting .302-9-25 with a .969 OPS, could keep him moving up. 雖然去年因傷錯過了班個球季而且在亞利桑那秋聯持續掙扎,但是Gillaspie 今年在小聯盟展現了他的砲火,在2016年球季取得了一個好的開始在2A打擊率 .302 9轟 25(現在已經26)打點 OPS.969,持續進步中。 2015 Took OF Garrett Whitley 13 NA Could've had OF Trent Clark 15 Brewers NA LHP Brady Aiken 17 Indians NA OF Daz Cameron 37 Astros NA History lesson: It is way too soon to make any real judgments. Whitley, a high school pick who didn't play much coming from upstate New York, had a so-so first season (.174, .604 OPS) but has a high ceiling. 要討論這些還太早,從紐約來的高中生Whitley還沒有太多的出賽,有一個還可以 的球季(打擊率.174 OPS .604)不過天花板很高。 http://goo.gl/PPt62A -- '08 Lineup vs RHP theanswer3 B / \ T █◣╭╧ / >〈 ██ ╰╤ TB ██ Θ╰╯ˋ 8 ̄ ̄ 1 >〉 2 ∕╰┐ 23 / 3 \13 〉15██ 30∕ ╲ 26〞〞 \α Iwamura Upton Pena Longoria Crawford Floyd Navarro Gross Bartlett -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.227.33.113 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Rays/M.1465232570.A.81B.html ※ 編輯: TampaBayRays (36.227.33.113), 06/07/2016 01:03:36

06/07 01:08, , 1F
超有趣的文 推推
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06/07 01:29, , 2F
2011年不要這麼悲劇就好了1
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06/07 06:02, , 3F
之前常常點BR一個個看以前光芒選秀的情形與選手lvl
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06/07 06:04, , 4F
今天MLB Free Game 9:40在ARI主場Archer對上Ray
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06/07 06:10, , 5F
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06/07 10:00, , 6F
千金難買早知道
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06/07 11:48, , 7F
我記得Posey那年就盛傳他會非常難簽下 而且很貴
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06/07 11:49, , 8F
所以光芒選了小貝 結果最後兩人的簽約金相去不遠..
06/07 11:49, 8F

06/07 15:15, , 9F
Posey成熟度超高,沒選真的可惜....
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06/07 15:28, , 10F
posey 我們能便宜用幾年?
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06/07 16:40, , 11F
posey就是讓人哭哭
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06/07 20:24, , 12F
波拉斯放話要天價簽約金嚇跑安豬 結果小貝簽約金還
06/07 20:24, 12F

06/07 20:24, , 13F
比Posey高… 沒選他的代價是錯失生涯第一座世界冠軍
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06/07 20:24, , 14F
可惜的08年
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06/14 18:31, , 15F
現在看起來12年也選得很失敗 囧
06/14 18:31, 15F
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