[數據] R.Nadal V.S R.Soderling (2010法網)

看板Tennis (網球)作者 (~ 塵埃 ~)時間16年前 (2010/07/06 21:21), 編輯推噓12(12023)
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French Open 首先先看 R.Soderling 1st 2nd 3rd 4th QF SF F 1st Serve % 60 % 59 % 64 % 72 % 64 % 63 % 56 % Aces 9 8 20 6 14 18 7 Double Faults 1 6 2 2 6 8 4 Unforced Errors 16 17 49 29 42 63 45 Winning % on 1st Serve 88 % 84 % 79 % 67 % 73 % 76 % 65 % Winning % on 2nd Serve 83 % 54 % 59 % 60 % 56 % 50 % 55 % Winners 46 24 55 24 49 62 32 Receiving Points Won 53 % 63 % 37 % 47 % 34 % 39 % 29 % Break Point Conversions 55 % 67 % 27 % 50 % 44 % 46 % 0 % Net Approaches 61 % 50 % 67 % 53 % 60 % 71 % 70 % Total Points Won 89 80 126 84 124 155 81 Fastest Serve Speed 224 220 228 219 227 224 229 Average 1st Serve Speed 193 196 206 203 209 205 204 Average 2nd Serve Speed 157 154 166 163 174 171 171 Elapsed Time 94 71 149 101 150 207 138 Innings 23 20 39 28 40 48 28 Sets 3 3 4 3 4 5 3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 再來是 R.Nadal 1st 2nd 3rd 4th QF SF F 1st Serve % 68% 80% 76% 74% 73% 76% 77% Aces 0 1 1 2 4 4 7 Double Faults 0 2 1 0 0 4 1 Unforced Errors 28 12 21 27 34 24 16 Winning % on 1st Serve 71% 80% 70% 63% 73% 75% 74% Winning % on 2nd Serve 52% 47% 53% 65% 57% 55% 62% Winners 20 23 38 27 34 37 28 Receiving Points Won 52% 51% 48% 52% 37% 48% 40% Break Point Conversions 50% 60% 44% 73% 33% 63% 33% Net Approaches 77% 76% 65% 60% 75% 68% 50% Total Points Won 102 93 105 109 117 108 100 Fastest Serve Speed 193 201 195 203 203 206 197 Average 1st Serve Speed 176 173 172 184 184 189 179 Average 2nd Serve Speed 136 140 140 142 148 148 143 Elapsed Time 143 105 148 153 155 129 138 Innings 24 25 28 30 36 30 28 Sets(一盤未失) 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- R.Soderling SF前的統合 V.S Finals SF(Sum) Finals 1st Serve % 368 of 577 = 64% 51 of 91 = 56 % Aces 75 7 Double Faults 25 4 Unforced Errors 216 45 Winning % on 1st Serve 282 of 368 = 77% 33 of 51 = 65 % Winning % on 2nd Serve 121 of 209 = 58% 22 of 40 = 55 % Winners 260 32 Receiving Points Won 255 of 598 = 43% 26 of 90 = 29 % Break Point Conversions 34 of 70 = 49% 0 of 8 = 0 % Net Approaches 73 of 119 = 61% 14 of 20 = 70 % Total Points Won 658 81 Fastest Serve Speed 228 KMH 229 KMH Average 1st Serve Speed 202 KMH 204 KMH Average 2nd Serve Speed 164 KMH 171 KMH Elapsed Time 772 138 Innings 198 28 Sets 22 3 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- R.Nadal V.S R.Soderling SF前的比較 R.Nadal R.Soderling 1st Serve % 392 of 528 = 74% 368 of 577 = 64% Aces 12 75 Double Faults 7 25 Unforced Errors 146 216 Winning % on 1st Serve 282 of 392 = 72% 282 of 368 = 77% Winning % on 2nd Serve 75 of 136 = 55% 121 of 209 = 58% Winners 179 260 Receiving Points Won 277 of 582 = 48% 255 of 598 = 43% Break Point Conversions 34 of 63 = 54% 34 of 70 = 49% Net Approaches 71 of 101 = 70% 73 of 119 = 61% Total Points Won 634 658 Fastest Serve Speed 206 KMH 228 KMH Average 1st Serve Speed 180 KMH 202 KMH Average 2nd Serve Speed 142 KMH 164 KMH Elapsed Time 833 772 Innings 173 198 Sets 18 22 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 最後補一下Finals數據 R.Nadal R.Soderling 1st Serve % 69 of 90 = 77 % 51 of 91 = 56 % Aces 7 7 Double Faults 1 4 Unforced Errors 16 45 Winning % on 1st Serve 51 of 69 = 74 % 33 of 51 = 65 % Winning % on 2nd Serve 13 of 21 = 62 % 22 of 40 = 55 % Winners 28 32 Receiving Points Won 36 of 91 = 40 % 26 of 90 = 29 % Break Point Conversions 4 of 12 = 33 % 0 of 8 = 0 % Net Approaches 4 of 8 = 50 % 14 of 20 = 70 % Total Points Won 100 81 Fastest Serve Speed 197 KMH 229 KMH Average 1st Serve Speed 179 KMH 204 KMH Average 2nd Serve Speed 143 KMH 171 KMH Elapsed Time 138 138 Innings 28 28 Sets 3 3 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.126.140.136

07/06 21:30, , 1F
以為會有分析的說QQ
07/06 21:30, 1F

07/06 21:32, , 2F
樓上你想要分析什麼東西啊? 其實我在統整時 一直在考慮
07/06 21:32, 2F

07/06 21:33, , 3F
哪些東西弄出來作比較會比較好
07/06 21:33, 3F

07/06 21:55, , 4F
我只是想問 純PO這些數據的意義在哪= =
07/06 21:55, 4F

07/06 21:57, , 5F
基本上我非常支持你的做為,辛苦了,不過基本上沒有一個主要
07/06 21:57, 5F

07/06 21:58, , 6F
目的,很容易被人家嫌,自己也會認為做白工,我做那麼辛苦還
07/06 21:58, 6F

07/06 21:59, , 7F
被人家嫌,嘔!
07/06 21:59, 7F

07/06 22:00, , 8F
有啥好嫌 數據看了自己也可以解讀 況且比洗版新聞強多了
07/06 22:00, 8F

07/06 22:01, , 9F
我哪有嫌 不是跟同一個人的打的數據作平均
07/06 22:01, 9F

07/06 22:02, , 10F
當然樓上講的我認同,你看看3F就知道了
07/06 22:02, 10F

07/06 22:02, , 11F
不是有點怪嗎?
07/06 22:02, 11F

07/06 22:05, , 12F
為一個主題整理數據 但沒試著去下結論 那數據只是一堆數字
07/06 22:05, 12F

07/06 22:08, , 13F
你就是嫌人家有點怪阿,嚴格來講,當然,放寬標準來講,當然
07/06 22:08, 13F

07/06 22:09, , 14F
為啥要結論 純PO數據統合整理不行嗎 有些亂下結論心得文
07/06 22:09, 14F

07/06 22:09, , 15F
沒有。以原Po的個性,這應該只是一部份,所以我勸大家不要那
07/06 22:09, 15F

07/06 22:10, , 16F
那文字也只是一堆無意義的文字......
07/06 22:10, 16F

07/06 22:10, , 17F
麼早下結論...就這樣
07/06 22:10, 17F

07/06 22:15, , 18F
可以理性一點? 亂下結論心得文跟純數據都一樣
07/06 22:15, 18F

07/06 22:16, , 19F
原PO也不是第一次PO數據 但是前幾次都有一些文字
07/06 22:16, 19F

07/06 22:19, , 20F
原來先開嗆的人最有理性 呵.....
07/06 22:19, 20F

07/06 22:23, , 21F
原PO若覺得我口氣太嗆我會向他道歉
07/06 22:23, 21F

07/06 22:25, , 22F
做結論說不定有爭議 還是不做的好~ 感謝原PO整理!
07/06 22:25, 22F

07/06 22:46, , 23F
謝謝原PO整理 網球版非大滿貫時期很冷清 我喜歡大家多分享
07/06 22:46, 23F

07/06 22:47, , 24F
各種文章 新聞也好心得也好數據也罷 總比版上空空的好...
07/06 22:47, 24F

07/06 23:14, , 25F
這裡可是不能亂PO文的呢連心得都還要經過審核不然就劣文
07/06 23:14, 25F

07/07 02:57, , 26F
真不好意思,造成大家的麻煩,我個人是不太喜歡加文字解讀
07/07 02:57, 26F

07/07 02:58, , 27F
因為總覺得會讓人覺得是個人心得,會造成更大的反彈
07/07 02:58, 27F

07/07 02:59, , 28F
當然一個人的輸贏不能只靠數據去解讀,很多人都說要看比賽
07/07 02:59, 28F

07/07 03:00, , 29F
當然看比賽可以得到些什麼,但是數據也是可以告訴你些什麼
07/07 03:00, 29F

07/07 03:02, , 30F
我之前的po文有加些許文字,但卻都非正式對球員的表現作
07/07 03:02, 30F

07/07 03:03, , 31F
出講評,只是希望看球賽時的討論,和賽後數據也可以作出些
07/07 03:03, 31F

07/07 03:04, , 32F
其他的論點罷了。 anyway 感謝推文指導。 我這類數據文
07/07 03:04, 32F

07/07 03:05, , 33F
就po到這篇吧,剩下整理好的就我自己想像吧!
07/07 03:05, 33F

07/07 09:19, , 34F
數據有的時候會發現跟印象中 差很大的事XD
07/07 09:19, 34F

07/07 09:21, , 35F
PO個人心得應該不會怎樣吧~~
07/07 09:21, 35F
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