Rejoice you have Kevin Durant and about nothing else

看板Thunder (奧克拉荷馬市 雷霆)作者 (Oh Yeah!!!)時間16年前 (2009/12/07 12:33), 編輯推噓6(607)
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原文連結:http://tinyurl.com/yfgrk5e Rejoice you have Kevin Durant and about nothing else They’ve been forever linked together. Because of one year, one draft, one general manager’s decision, whatever happens, Kevin Durant and Greg Oden stand to be compared for the rest of their respective careers. KD跟Oden將永遠會聯結在一起討論。同一年選秀,GM的選擇,不管未來會如何,KD跟Oden 他們兩個的生涯絕對會被不停的比較。 Is it fair? I don’t really know. Is it perfectly natural? Yes, yes it is. Oden was taken ahead of Durant in what some considered a bad pick, even at the time. Oden, the conventional dominant big man or Durant, the once-in-a-lifetime college superstar? Eventually, Oden won out, at least in Portland general manager Kevin Pritchard’s mind. 這公平嗎?我也不知道。(被拿來比較)很自然嗎?我想是的。Oden當年(被拓荒者選中)成 為選秀狀元,Durant則是榜眼的這件事,即使在當時都有人覺得拓荒者選錯了。(在當時 )Oden,是個傳統優勢長人,而Durant可能生涯只是個大學超級球星,最後Oden還是贏了 ,至少贏得拓荒者GM Kevin Pritchard目光(成為選秀狀元)。 But in 2007, Durant won out, at least in the minds of most every NBA fan. Oden sat on the sideline, watching every game of his rookie season without playing a minute. He had microfracture surgery on his right knee before even sniffing a minute of real life run in the NBA. Durant meanwhile went on to glide to the Rookie of the Year Award. 但在整個2007年,表現較好的卻是KD,至少在球迷眼中是這樣。Oden因傷(右膝骨折手術) 所困,全季休兵,連一場例行賽也沒上場過。同時KD趁機拿下ROY。 Next, 2008. Oden starts his rookie season well, but 13 minutes in injures his foot and misses two weeks. The Sam Bowie rabble-rabbles fire up again. Oden returns in two weeks and plays relatively well. But in late February he bangs knees with Corey Maggette and fractures his left kneecap, and has to miss three weeks. The tags of 「fragile」 and 「injury prone」 are tossed on Oden, two words that are the Black Spot for a big man. Bad knees, plus bad feet, most times equal bad career. You know, Sam Bowie. 隔年(2008),Oden開始了他真正的菜鳥球季,第一場一開始打得還不錯,但13分鐘後,腳 扭傷又休息兩週。Sam Bowie惡夢似乎又重現。Oden兩週後回歸,打得不差,但2月底…他 又跟Maggette相撞,左膝骨折,又休兵三週。這個時候他已經被貼上「玻璃人」的標籤了 。受傷的膝蓋,受傷的腳,受傷的生涯,一整個像Sam Bowie。 Durant again, is playing out of his mind. In his second year, he averages 25.3 ppg with insane efficiency numbers and high shooting percentages. He tosses his name into a group with Michael Jordan and LeBron James in terms of fastest to score 3,000 points. Durant is a revelation in the making. What were once murmurs of 「Portland screwed up with Oden」 are quickly becoming booming declarations in the forms of columns and articles and radio show banter and whatever else. Everyone that once thought Durant was a better pick than Oden is coming out of nowhere to remind you about it. KD則是大躍進。生涯第二年,平均得分25.3,並且帶有不可思議的準度與高命中率。他成 為最快拿下生涯3000分的球員,超越Jordan與LJ。(挑選他)在決策上給了一些啟示。有些 「選Oden好像搞砸了」的雜音出現,並且這種想法也開始出現在專欄、文章,廣播節目也 開始拿這件事情大做文章。每個人都開始認為選KD是比較好的選擇,而且Oden什麼也沒打 出來。 And then Dec. 5, 2009. Oden’s 2009 is off to a nice start. The seven-footer from Ohio State is averaging a meager 11.7 ppg, but a nice 8.7 rpg and 2.4 blocks per game in just 24 minutes a night. He’s not Bill Russell like some thought, but he’s certainly developing into a worthy center. Keep in mind, it is just Oden’s second season. But like so many feared and pictured, six minutes into a game against the Rockets, Oden goes down a large heap clutching his knee. It quickly goes from 「Oh, I hope he’s alright」 to 「Oh no. Oh no. OH NO.」 Oden is on the floor writhing in pain. A stretcher comes out. Oden is carted off. His 2009-10 campaign is likely over just like that with a busted left patella. 12/05/2009,Oden重新出發。Ohio 出身,7呎的他雖然平均得分只有11.7,但他每場有 8.7個籃板,2.4個火鍋,而且他平均只上場24分鐘。他不是像某些人想的下一個Bill Russell,但他確實在成為一個出色的中鋒。別忘記這只是Oden的第二個球季。但不幸 的是,正如很多人擔心或對他的刻板印象一樣,對火箭隊開賽6分鐘,左膝遭重擊,球迷 從「希望他沒事」很快轉變為「Oh no. Oh no. OH NO.」他被擔架抬出場,左膝骨撕裂, 本季似乎報銷。 And Durant apologists smirk and shake their heads. Which is the point I’m trying to get to, even through that ridiculously long intro. Don’t. Don’t even think it. I know you already have and most will continue, but don’t. Greg Oden’s devastating injury has nothing to do with Kevin Durant. Absolutely nothing. Well, other than Portland is a little less good and the Blazers happen to be in Kevin Durant’s team’s division. But in terms of what you’re thinking, Oden’s injury isn’t related. (看到這種情形)KD的擁護者科科笑。看起來我就是想科科笑,甚至用了這麼長的篇幅來鋪 陳,但其實並不是這樣。我感覺得出來大家很想繼續得意,但請不要這樣。Oden這麼嚴重 的受傷跟KD一點關係也沒有。雖然這種結果對波特蘭不太妙,而且剛好他們又跟雷霆同一 個分區,但這還是跟Oden受傷無關。 Yes, Oden went ahead of Durant in the 2007. Yes, Durant’s career projects to be more successful than Oden’s. Yes, had Portland taken KD instead, they’d probably be a much better team. It’s a nice 「What If?」 that might makes Bill Simmons’ fifth reprint of The Book of Basketball (now with more footnotes!) and give talking heads something to chatter about for a while. But this isn’t the time for that. This is no time to smile and say, 「Oops, should’ve taken Durant.」 It’s a time to shake your head and feel absolutely awful for Greg Oden. 沒錯,2007年Oden在KD之前被選中,看起來KD生涯會比Oden成功,如果拓荒者當初選了他 ,可能會是更好的隊伍。這個主題很適合用在Bill Simmons’ 的第15版The Book of Basketball(有更多註解了!)裡的「What If?」,而且可以討論一段蠻長的時間,但我想 現在還不是時候,還不能斷言說:「嗚嗚,該選KD的」。現在應該替Oden感到難過。 Oden and Durant know they’re linked. It’s natural. Just like Bowie and Jordan, Leaf and Manning and Crosby and Ovechkin are all linked, Oden and Durant will stand to be compared and contrasted for the rest of their careers. And unfortunately for Oden, injuries are turning into the trump card that prevents us from getting a good read on it. Oden跟KD自己也知道他們總是會被聯結,這很自然,就像Bowie跟Jordan,"Manning與 Crosby、Ovechkin"(註1)一樣,KD跟Oden他們兩個的生涯絕對會被不停的比較。很不幸 的Oden總是被傷勢困擾,讓我們選KD的行為不會被別人科科笑。 Yes, by all early returns, Durant is having a much better career. If Kevin Pritchard could go back knowing what he knows now, he likely would’ve have turned in KD’s card instead of Oden’s. But I don’t see the pride and satisfaction in celebrating such a thing. We know Kevin Durant is absolutely awesome. We don’t need more validation for that by having everyone acknowledge Pritchard should’ve selected him. And especially not at the expense of finding joy in Oden’s hardships. 沒錯,在一開始KD的成績確實領先Oden。如果拓荒者GM Kevin Pritchard可以帶著現在的 記憶回到過去,他可能會改選KD。但我不認為這是一件可以說嘴的事。我們知道KD很棒。 我們不需要一再確認Kevin Pritchard應該要選他,更不應該因為Oden的受傷感到得意。 It’s expected to compare the two players. I get that. It was a controversial pick at the time and it stands to be evaluated for a long time. It’s what we do as sports fans. We play the armchair GM and judge and scrutinize and play the 「What If?」 game. When somebody makes a decision to take one guy over another, we have to pick it apart. What if the Pistons had taken Carmelo instead of Darko? What if the Hawks took Chris Paul instead of Marvin Williams? Heck, what if the Thunder had taken Rubio instead of Harden? Things might be different, but who really knows? Maybe Durant gets swallowed up in Portland’s scheme and never evolves into the machine he is now. Maybe Oden lands in OKC and never is in a situation that gets him hurt and becomes an All-Star center. You just can’t say for sure. You can’t. 這兩個人被比較是預料的到的,現在對於當年選秀的結果也引起爭議,但要下定論還早。 這就是為何我們只是個球迷。我們常常以結果論來討論GM的選擇,很愛玩「What If?」的 遊戲。當某人選了A而沒選B,我們就開始討論起來。為何活塞不選Carmelo選了Darko?老 鷹幹嘛不選Paul選了個Marvin Williams?雷霆有帥哥Rubio不選,選個老臉大鬍子Harden 幹嘛?選了也許會有不同發展,但誰確定?也許KD到了拓荒者會因為他們的養成計畫,而 不會變成現在這個樣子也說不定,也許Oden到了雷霆年年健康,瞬間成為全明星也有可能 。誰能確定?誰也不確定。 What I’m saying is it’s just not fair to keep it up with Oden and Durant. One player has had some seriously awful luck. The other is looking like a potentially transcendent player and is carving up the record book at the age of 21. The two situations may be related, but there’s nothing for Thunder fans and/or Durant fans to celebrate about Oden’s unfortunate circumstances. Everyone across the league immediately thought about Durant tonight when they saw Oden go down in a giant pile. Most probably shook their heads and said, 「 Told you so.」 But it just shouldn’t be that way. It’s not fair to KD and it ’s certainly not fair to Oden. 所以我說現在比較KD跟Oden是不公平的。Oden非常倒楣,而KD看來是個未來巨星,21歲就 已經創下一些紀錄。他們兩個的情況也許還是會有相關,但雷霆球迷不應該為了Oden受傷 而科科笑。每個看到Oden受傷的人瞬間都會想到KD,大部分的人會搖頭說:「你看吧/早 跟你講了」,但這種講法沒道理,對兩個人都不公平。 Take pride in Durant’s accomplishments. Celebrate his achievements and thank the heavens you have a chance to watch him play. But don’t do it by wagging your finger at Oden. Don’t find irrational validation at the expense of Oden ’s injury issues. The two may be forever linked, but it should just be because they came into the league one pick apart back in 2007. And for no other reason than that. 為KD的成就感到榮耀,為KD能夠成為雷霆的一份子而慶祝,但不要為了Oden受傷而這麼做 。不要因Oden受傷的因素而不理性的覺得選他是錯的。他們永遠會放在一起討論,但這只 因為是他們是同一年進入NBA的。並沒有其他原因。 註1:這三個是冰球球員,附上英文wiki資料。 Paul Manning(?不確定)- http://tinyurl.com/yky7ff7 Sidney Crosby-http://tinyurl.com/k23p5 Alexander Ovechkin-http://tinyurl.com/zx4yg -- 『也許你想從我身上尋求許多東西。可是我卻一點也沒有感覺自己有什麼被需求。』 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 211.22.7.197

12/07 12:47, , 1F
像Durant這種近似T-Mac/Dirk的全能得分好手每3~4年就會出一個
12/07 12:47, 1F

12/07 12:48, , 2F
但是像Oden這種美國本土強力中鋒..10年搞不好都沒一個~
12/07 12:48, 2F

12/07 12:50, , 3F
選100次,至少95次以上Oden會是狀元,他的條件好的太誇張.
12/07 12:50, 3F

12/07 12:53, , 4F
當初我也覺得拓選Oden是正確的~
12/07 12:53, 4F

12/07 12:55, , 5F
況且看身材誰知道Oden會比Durant容易受傷~XD
12/07 12:55, 5F

12/07 13:01, , 6F
還是要為Oden祈禱一下~也恭喜Durant進入得分榜前三傑
12/07 13:01, 6F

12/07 13:02, , 7F
要是超音速抽中狀元 選Oden也不意外
12/07 13:02, 7F

12/07 13:13, , 8F
Livingston那樣都可以回來 Oden也沒問題的
12/07 13:13, 8F

12/07 13:14, , 9F
其實07年大家都知道誰拿到pick #1 Oden就是哪隊
12/07 13:14, 9F

12/07 13:15, , 10F
還有人質疑Durant打前鋒太瘦打後衛不夠快
12/07 13:15, 10F

12/07 14:34, , 11F
push
12/07 14:34, 11F

12/08 00:01, , 12F
poor oden
12/08 00:01, 12F

12/08 08:09, , 13F
縱使有瑜亮之爭,但他們兩人依然是很好的朋友
12/08 08:09, 13F
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